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Post by politicidal on Jan 29, 2019 1:16:35 GMT
Mortal Engines is the latest in a series of similarly themed flops like Wild Wild West, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, Treasure Planet, A Series of Unfortunate Events, The Golden Compass, and to a certain extent Disney's John Carter and Sky Captain & the World of Tomorrow fall under that category. Granted, some of these films simply aren't good. But quality aside, and just looking at them as escapist spectacle, are film audiences just turned off by the aesthetic as too 'geeky' or something?
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Post by darkpast on Jan 29, 2019 2:51:58 GMT
they are bad, here is another flop  |
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Post by politicidal on Jan 29, 2019 4:23:27 GMT
they are bad, here is another flop Bad movies make money all the time because of explosions or Tyler Perry. I'd prefer to watch something about steampunk pirates instead. |
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Post by bluerisk on Mar 9, 2019 14:01:41 GMT
Mortal Engines is the latest in a series of similarly themed flops like Wild Wild West, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, Treasure Planet, A Series of Unfortunate Events, The Golden Compass, and to a certain extent Disney's John Carter and Sky Captain & the World of Tomorrow fall under that category. Granted, some of these films simply aren't good. But quality aside, and just looking at them as escapist spectacle, are film audiences just turned off by the aesthetic as too 'geeky' or something? Because steam and Sci-Fi actually does not fit. It's a contradiction in adjectio.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Mar 10, 2019 5:05:51 GMT
In the case of "The Wild Wild West," they departed from the elements that made the TV series so good. Instead of the sophisticated tongue-in-cheek humor they went in for slob humor. James West and Artemus Gordon came off like a couple of buffoons. I hated it. After the movie premiered I talked with younger people who had seen it and liked it, and they did not know it was based on a 1960's television series until I told them.
I haven't seen "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" but I seem to remember that it wasn't well-received, critically or commercially. It looked like a great idea for a movie.
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Post by kingslayer on Mar 16, 2019 0:53:47 GMT
I'm sure it doesn't help that they are making so many bad ones in the first place. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? Wild Wild West? Van Helsing? Yikes.
Sherlock Holmes is considered steampunk though isn't it? Guess can get one homerun.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 16, 2019 1:22:03 GMT
I'm sure it doesn't help that they are making so many bad ones in the first place. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? Wild Wild West? Van Helsing? Yikes. Sherlock Holmes is considered steampunk though isn't it? Guess can get one homerun. That's the puzzling thing though, yeah there's clunkers that fall under the genre. But bad movies make boatloads of money all the time like the Transformer movies despite collective acknowledgement that they aren't good movies. Why not shake things up with something that's probably bad but looks different for a change?
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Post by gljbradley on Mar 17, 2019 0:11:36 GMT
I have no idea.
Btw, I also like The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.
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Post by hi224 on Mar 17, 2019 14:57:20 GMT
Mortal Engines is the latest in a series of similarly themed flops like Wild Wild West, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, Treasure Planet, A Series of Unfortunate Events, The Golden Compass, and to a certain extent Disney's John Carter and Sky Captain & the World of Tomorrow fall under that category. Granted, some of these films simply aren't good. But quality aside, and just looking at them as escapist spectacle, are film audiences just turned off by the aesthetic as too 'geeky' or something? Well for one of concepts themselves were more creative thatd be helpful. Like how about a basic detective story which happens to have steampunk that develops the concepts of its story properly. Most of these movies conceptually feel so surface level without any real development at all. |
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Post by bd74 on May 6, 2019 2:42:22 GMT
Steampunk is still around?  I thought that was an early-2010s trend. Anyway, I never saw Jonah Hex, but doesn't it fall under the "steampunk" category since steampunk is western-inspired? And it also fits in with the time period (early-2010s). It was also a flop. |
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2019 22:10:42 GMT
because movies like mortal engines are rubbish
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Post by theravenking on May 17, 2019 11:06:41 GMT
In the case of "The Wild Wild West," they departed from the elements that made the TV series so good. Instead of the sophisticated tongue-in-cheek humor they went in for slob humor. James West and Artemus Gordon came off like a couple of buffoons. I hated it. After the movie premiered I talked with younger people who had seen it and liked it, and they did not know it was based on a 1960's television series until I told them. I haven't seen "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" but I seem to remember that it wasn't well-received, critically or commercially. It looked like a great idea for a movie. In the case of The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen the original graphic novels were great. But it’s R-rated material with excessive violence and sexual content. Not only did they tone it down to PG-13, but they also changed the plot and got rid of the subversive humor of the source material.
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Post by politicidal on May 17, 2019 16:58:02 GMT
In the case of "The Wild Wild West," they departed from the elements that made the TV series so good. Instead of the sophisticated tongue-in-cheek humor they went in for slob humor. James West and Artemus Gordon came off like a couple of buffoons. I hated it. After the movie premiered I talked with younger people who had seen it and liked it, and they did not know it was based on a 1960's television series until I told them. I haven't seen "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" but I seem to remember that it wasn't well-received, critically or commercially. It looked like a great idea for a movie. In the case of The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen the original graphic novels were great. But it’s R-rated material with excessive violence and sexual content. Not only did they tone it down to PG-13, but they also changed the plot and got rid of the subversive humor of the source material. Yeah a more faithful adaptation would be amazing. Perhaps if they got Matthew Vaughn to direct it?
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Post by amyghost on May 17, 2019 18:49:34 GMT
Steampunk is still around? I thought that was an early-2010s trend. Anyway, I never saw Jonah Hex, but doesn't it fall under the "steampunk" category since steampunk is western-inspired? And it also fits in with the time period (early-2010s). It was also a flop. LOL, as far as I can tell, steampunk seems to have been largely appropriated by middle-aged ladies trying to appear hip. Check the craft books and magazines in any big-box bookstore, and they're full of publications hyping 'steampunk-inspired' jewelry, fashion, and altered-book junk to the Stampington housewife-artist crowd.
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Post by theauxphou on Sept 13, 2019 23:03:46 GMT
In the case of The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen the original graphic novels were great. But it’s R-rated material with excessive violence and sexual content. Not only did they tone it down to PG-13, but they also changed the plot and got rid of the subversive humor of the source material.
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Post by politicidal on Sept 13, 2019 23:15:28 GMT
In the case of The League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen the original graphic novels were great. But it’s R-rated material with excessive violence and sexual content. Not only did they tone it down to PG-13, but they also changed the plot and got rid of the subversive humor of the source material. Correct, they couldn't use Fu Manchu but Captain Nemo's in the original comic though.
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Post by maxwellperfect on Sept 14, 2019 5:10:47 GMT
Setting aside how poor an adaptation 'The Wild Wild West' movie was of the original show, it was just flat bad even as an original work. 'The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen' was no masterpiece, but I found it kind of fun. Haven't seen the others. If there is a general aversion to Steampunk on the big screen, I couldn't say why. Too busy with all those gears and machinery? The fashion aesthetic just doesn't connect with modern audiences? "Too geeky" might be it, actually.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2019 6:18:16 GMT
I would personally consider Hellboy 2004 and Hellboy 2 2008 to be successful steampunk. Maybe not set in the Victorian Age, but still the general feel, and they weren't bad at all IMHO.
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Post by Morgana on Sept 14, 2019 9:09:33 GMT
Mortal Engines is the latest in a series of similarly themed flops like Wild Wild West, Atlantis: The Lost Empire, Treasure Planet, A Series of Unfortunate Events, The Golden Compass, and to a certain extent Disney's John Carter and Sky Captain & the World of Tomorrow fall under that category. Granted, some of these films simply aren't good. But quality aside, and just looking at them as escapist spectacle, are film audiences just turned off by the aesthetic as too 'geeky' or something? Is Carnival Row considered steampunk? If so, then it remains to be seen if it will be a hit or a miss. I am only two episodes in so far and it's okay but nothing special. I think Bloom is overacting, or maybe it's just his horrendous accent.
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Post by shannondegroot on Sept 16, 2019 2:58:50 GMT
They have to make one without cgi.
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