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Post by BATouttaheck on Mar 22, 2019 16:22:51 GMT
Isn't either Gaelic OR Celt said to be the HARDEST English dialect to understand?? That makes no more sense than saying that FRENCH is an English Dialect ! Gaelic is NOT an English Dialect no matter how big and varied the font used to yell about it ! It's another LANGUAGE altogether.
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Post by ant-mac on Mar 22, 2019 16:40:53 GMT
Catman recalls Janet Fielding saying that when she first appeared as Tegan Jovanka, John Nathan-Turner wanted her to really go all out with her Australian accent. After the first episode aired, he had her rein it in because a lot of the British viewers complained that they couldn't understand a word she said. I've never heard another Aussie talk like her, not in LOGOPOLIS or any other serial. And remember that scene in FOUR TO DOOMSDAY where she had a conversation with Kurkutji in his own language, because he was an Australian Aboriginal? I still piss myself laughing at that.
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Post by ant-mac on Mar 22, 2019 16:48:11 GMT
Isn't either Gaelic OR Celt said to be the HARDEST English dialect to understand?? It's a different language. However, I'd personally pay good money to see you say that in the front bar of a Scottish pub on a Friday night.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Mar 22, 2019 16:53:50 GMT
Isn't either Gaelic OR Celt said to be the HARDEST English dialect to understand?? It's a different language. However, I'd personally pay good money to see you say that in the front bar of a Scottish pub on a Friday night. anything that would get this PITA-rip.imdb pummeled would be a good thing … getting sick of comedy "r.i.p. soon" threads and nonsense never answer post the answer "quizzes" … yeah, ot but j/s. <shrug>
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Post by ant-mac on Mar 22, 2019 16:55:54 GMT
It's a different language. However, I'd personally pay good money to see you say that in the front bar of a Scottish pub on a Friday night. anything that would get this PITA-rip.imdb pummeled would be a good thing … getting sick of comedy "r.i.p. soon" threads and nonsense never answer post the answer "quizzes" … yeah, ot but j/s. <shrug> The only question is would he leave the pub through the door, the window or a section of the wall? ![](https://s26.postimg.cc/tek3suwt5/laugh.gif)
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Post by BATouttaheck on Mar 22, 2019 16:58:26 GMT
Maybe we should we do a POLL as to the preferred exit ? ant-mac RE: speaking Aboriginee-eeze … funny scene of same in Crocodile Dundee, if I recall.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 22, 2019 17:24:32 GMT
I haven't ever needed close captioning to understand other accents in English. But I have also wondered if they need it when listening to us Americans. LOL
However I do think that British actors are better at imitating our accent than American actors are with British accents. Kevin Costner's Robin Hood anyone? Ugh.
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Post by ant-mac on Mar 22, 2019 17:35:28 GMT
Maybe we should we do a POLL as to the preferred exit ? ant-mac RE: speaking Aboriginee-eeze … funny scene of same in Crocodile Dundee, if I recall. Well, it's probably more time and effort than I'd care to expend on the subject, but it might be amusing. It's been more than a decade since I last watched CROCODILE DUNDEE, so I can't honestly recall. However, I do remember David Gulpilil saying he hated the bush.
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Post by hi224 on Mar 22, 2019 21:27:44 GMT
Nah.
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Post by deembastille on Mar 22, 2019 23:21:14 GMT
Is it the accent or the neighborhood slang?
Me stomach thinks me throat's been cut.
Wazzock
Tetchy
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Mar 22, 2019 23:26:35 GMT
I have always used CC when it is available
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Post by ellynmacg on Mar 23, 2019 20:59:14 GMT
Isn't either Gaelic OR Celt said to be the HARDEST English dialect to understand?? Gaelic is a dialect of English ? i thought it was a completely different languages all together. Gaelic is definitely not a dialect of English. "Gaelic" is actually no fewer than three languages--Scottish Gaelic (nowadays often called simply "Gaelic"), Irish Gaelic (nowadays often called simply "Irish"), and the indigenous tongue of the Isle of Man, Manx (which, unfortunately, is considered extinct). All three varieties of Gaelic belong to the Goidelic, or "Q" branch of the Celtic language family, while Welsh and Breton (spoken in northwestern France) belong to the Brittonic or "P" branch of that family. (And don't get me started on "Scots" AKA "Lallans" which, while it may have started as a dialect of English, is now considered by many a whole separate language, not related to Gaelic.) Anyone who is still awake ![::wink::](https://s26.postimg.cc/66chy60t5/wink.gif) may wish to check out this Wikipedia article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_languagesI've noticed a lot of confusion about Gaelic (I'm referring to the Scottish variety here). Back in the day of IMDb, some poster whose name I did not recognize called Gaelic "one of the Scandinavian languages." Not even close! While it's true that many of the place-names found in Scotland (especially in the northeastern regions, including the islands comprising Orkney and Shetland) derive from Norse--due mainly to the many Viking invasions--the Scandinavian languages form a subdivision of the Germanic family, which also includes...ta-daah! English (even American English ![::bigrazz::](https://s26.postimg.cc/wcpsuo2ah/bigrazz.gif) ). The Celtic tongues are a whole other kettle of fish.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Mar 23, 2019 21:02:30 GMT
Gaelic is a dialect of English ? i thought it was a completely different languages all together. Gaelic is definitely not a dialect of English. "Gaelic" is actually no fewer than three languages--Scottish Gaelic (nowadays often called simply "Gaelic"), Irish Gaelic (nowadays often called simply "Irish"), and the indigenous tongue of the Isle of Man, Manx (which, unfortunately, is considered extinct). All three varieties of Gaelic belong to the Goidelic, or "Q" branch of the Celtic language family, while Welsh and Breton (spoken in northwestern France) belong to the Brittonic or "P" branch of that family. (And don't get me started on "Scots" AKA "Lallans" which, while it may have started as a dialect of English, is now considered by many a whole separate language, not related to Gaelic.) Anyone who is still awake ![::wink::](https://s26.postimg.cc/66chy60t5/wink.gif) may wish to check out this Wikipedia article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_languagesI've noticed a lot of confusion about Gaelic (I'm referring to the Scottish variety here). Back in the day of IMDb, some poster whose name I did not recognize called Gaelic "one of the Scandinavian languages." Not even close! While it's true that many of the place-names found in Scotland (especially in the northeastern regions, including the islands comprising Orkney and Shetland) derive from Norse--due mainly to the many Viking invasions--the Scandinavian languages form a subdivision of the Germanic family, which also includes...ta-daah! English (even American English ![::bigrazz::](https://s26.postimg.cc/wcpsuo2ah/bigrazz.gif) ). The Celtic tongues are a whole other kettle of fish. That is what i thought.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Mar 24, 2019 3:15:11 GMT
ellynmacg Great post about the assorted Gaelics ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png) … too bad RiP, IMDb probably won't ever read it !
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Post by louise on Mar 24, 2019 10:36:34 GMT
No. I've never had any trouble understanding American accents. I have had trouble with Glaswegian though, a thick Glasgow accent can be very hard to follow.
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Post by BATouttaheck on Mar 24, 2019 15:34:35 GMT
No. I've never had any trouble understanding American accents. I have had trouble with Glaswegian though, a thick Glasgow accent can be very hard to follow. Fortunately not too many tv shows / movies are spoken in Glaswegian !
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Post by BATouttaheck on Mar 24, 2019 17:55:24 GMT
We Americans often need the closed captioning on to understand thick British accents. Do the British usually need closed captions to understand American English? Another take on this question …. Since, at least according to My Fair Lady's Professor Henry Higgins, there are what seems to be an infinite number of "British" accents, do the British need closed captioning to understand the words being spoken by Brits from areas other than their own ? American English accents are really just a variation on the theme and less different from the most common "English accent" than say, that of Manchester or the Shetland Isles as examples of somewhat "thick" and not the classic accent most thought of as being an " EA" .
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Post by persistenceofvision on Mar 24, 2019 20:47:02 GMT
Since, at least according to My Fair Lady's Professor Henry Higgins, there are what seems to be an infinite number of "British" accents, do the British need closed captioning to understand the words being spoken by Brits from areas other than their own ? Do you know the BBC show Rab C. Nesbitt? It was about this unemployed Glaswegian guy with a drink problem. When it started airing in 1990, loads of viewers in the South of England complained that they couldn't understand what he was saying. www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVk4nh-hBKY
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