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Jun 14, 2019 11:52:37 GMT @deblovesbeccy said:

May 15, 2019 9:15:52 GMT dazz said:

I think with OUAT that's more to do with them needing to portray Storybrook as normal as possible and it not meant to be just like the films, so having the dwarfs be actual drawfs would be too much of a give away, but it was an ABC show which is a Disney owned network and so they obviously allowed them to use certain rights as Disney though they don't own the rights to the dwarfs they do own the names iirc as the names we know tham as aren't the original names for them, but OUAT used those names, as for Iago I have no idea I would imagine Disney own the rights to him as he was an homage to Iago from Othello, which seems unlikely to be the case with the tales that inspired the movie, as for Tinkerbell I dunno, depends if she's named in the original stories, if not then Disney own it as they created this specific version of the character, but even if she was they own the rights to that version regardless, which is how they can spin it off however they like, others could do the same but they wouldn't be able to use that look for Tinkerbell as Disney own the rights to that design still.

Yeah. I think you are right there Dazz but I can see why the Little People Association of America were not impressed over it ‘cause many of them do struggle to get roles in movies and TV Shows now and roles like Rumpelstiltskin and the Dwarfs would have been some roles they would have thought they had a chance of getting only for the show to hire normal sized actors. Perhaps I am just watching the wrong movies and TV Shows but it feels like there were more dwarf actors in the past than there are now and there were some fairly famous ones like Warwick Davis, John Franklin, Phil Fondacaro and Verne Troyer who got a lot of roles at one point but not so much now. They changed Rumple a lot in ‘Once Upon A Time’ though and from what I remember the original character was far more sinister and he kidnapped kids and forced them to work as slaves for him and I think he also ate them.

I didn’t know Disney owned ABC at the time of ‘Once Upon A Time’ but it makes sense why they got to use some of the Disney characters like Elsa and Anna from ‘Frozen’ which was still somewhat new at the time ‘Once Upon A Time’ had them but I am still surprised they did not have some others and it was a shame we never got a ‘Zootopa’ type of cameo since Ginnifer Goodwin played Judy and she wanted to do something ‘Zootopia’ related for the show too. Have you seen ‘Zootopia’ Dazz and did you know there are plans for ‘Zootopia 2 and 3?’ I think they will go through ‘cause I read ‘Zootopia’ is the most successful original Disney movie of the past 50 years and a lot of ‘Zootopia’ fans including my nieces want a sequel so they can see what the characters do next.

Hopefully we get the live action ‘Tinker Bell’ movie. It was a shame Reese Witherspoon didn’t get to do it ‘cause I think she could have been good as Tinker Bell but and I read the ‘Tinker Bell’ movies were the most successful direct to video franchise by Disney and over here in Australia they were in cinemas and we took my eldest niece to see all of them and I didn’t know they were direct to video in America. 

Thing is back in the day you needed dwarf actors for certain roles, now you don't, CGI and forced perspective techniques remove the need for that, and also with society as it is now the other part of what played into dwarf roles is gone, used to be dwarf's were an easy gag or a way to show something as odd or not normal, now you do that and you get your arse chewed out for it.

In some ways I get it, like honestly for a lot of the smaller CGI characters I don't get why you don't have two performers play the role, or if you do why not let one be a dwarf actor who you maybe able to also give a role to in another part of the movie, like in GOTG why not let a dwarf actor motion capture Rocket's body and movements whilst you have Bradley Cooper voice and performance capture him facially, why is Sean Gunn performance capturing him other than because he's James's brother? Same for like the Apes movies, with the exception of Serkis who is a master at performance capture why not get dwarf actors performing for the smaller apes and stuff?

One thing maybe an issue though is how dumb Hollywood is, they probably just think to hire just Davis or Dinkleage as they are well known and that's that, but also it's just what is famous is now different, back in the day you had a TV show and most people knew your name, now we have actors working regularly on TV for shows for 10-20 years steady and most people wont know who they are, you know the fame the GOT cast got for being on that show is what was normal for actors 30 years ago, but now that level of fame is like wow that's huge, the work is still out there for dwarf actors, sadly the fame isn't though.

Never saw Zootopia so I have no idea, not surprised it's Disney after all, and with it being the age of franchises anything that hits is going to be sequallised and monetised to the bitter end.