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Post by WarrenPeace on Mar 3, 2019 21:34:35 GMT
Yeah, it feels like it starts to get old real quick or if you've seen one episode, you've seen them all. Some guy gets whacked. Another few guys get into an altercation. This mobster is having a beef with another. Tony goes to therapy, where we don't really see any results of it helping him to be a better man, he is still a heartless thug and murderer who even threatens and sexually assaults his therapist who continues to see him for gawd knows why. Rinse and repeat for all the other episodes. I like mob stuff. I am a big fan of a good crime drama. Goodfellas, Casino, Cop Land, I love that stuff. It's just that season 1 is so....average. It feels so amateur. I'm about 3 or so episodes into season 2 (I took a break) and can already see an increased production value. I have given it a couple of tries. But it just didn't hold my interest. Same thing with Boardwalk Empire. After a time, I got tired of the violence. Have you by chance see the movie Things Change? It is also a mob related movie only with a humorous and clever twist!
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Post by Admin on Mar 3, 2019 23:18:08 GMT
I thought the final episode was weird and terrible. Here's my take on it: We, the audience, got wacked. A few episode earlier, Tony and Junior (?) were on a boat, talking about hits. One of them said something about how you might not even see it coming; one minute you're there, and the next...lights out. Instant black. So I think we were taken out. We knew too much.
I thought it was brilliant.
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 4, 2019 1:25:36 GMT
I read that theory later. But I was referring to other things like the son's story. I feel they just tidied everything up so that they could do a sequel if they really wanted to.
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Post by Admin on Mar 4, 2019 1:31:29 GMT
I read that theory later. But I was referring to other things like the son's story. I feel they just tidied everything up so that they could do a sequel if they really wanted to. If my theory is to be considered, then... There would be no audience to make a sequel for.
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 4, 2019 1:36:31 GMT
If my theory is to be considered, then... There would be no audience to make a sequel for. lol that's true. Actually I had not heard your theory before--I was thinking about the other theory that it was Tony, but actually, your theory makes more sense given that it wasn't his POV at the end when it goes black.
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Post by Admin on Mar 4, 2019 2:02:18 GMT
If my theory is to be considered, then... There would be no audience to make a sequel for. lol that's true. Actually I had not heard your theory before--I was thinking about the other theory that it was Tony, but actually, your theory makes more sense given that it wasn't his POV at the end when it goes black. Either way, I think it's a great series overall. I mean, I'm not without criticism, but I'm glad I didn't give up after the first few episodes. Shows like these take time to develop and so they definitely aren't targeted to today's ever-increasing short attention span and expectations for instant gratification.
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 4, 2019 2:36:00 GMT
I probably would have given up on Sopranos except that a Canadian station ran the first two seasons nightly so it was convenient. Later I watched them as they premiered but I would not do it again because I feel the format is too loose. Anyone can watch a Columbo, but with this series and others like it you have to watch other episodes to get the full meaning, so for first time viewers, it sucks because you are compelled to watch them in chronological order.
If it was a short mini-series like I Claudius or Shogun it would be ok, but not dozens of episodes. It's too much like a soap opera. There are very few single story viewing experiences in tv or film or books these days. It's always a sequel or prequel from day 1. In fact, I thought I read the Sopranos was getting a prequel.
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Post by thornberry on Mar 4, 2019 3:15:04 GMT
lol that's true. Actually I had not heard your theory before--I was thinking about the other theory that it was Tony, but actually, your theory makes more sense given that it wasn't his POV at the end when it goes black. Shows like these take time to develop and so they definitely aren't targeted to today's ever-increasing short attention span and expectations for instant gratification. Really? I disagree because a series with a long story arc, even over several seasons, is a relatively new thing in television. Originally TV shows had independent episodes. I can't remember anything different when I was a kid. Maybe "The Fugitive" qualifies, but that didn't have a complicated plot line.
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Post by Admin on Mar 4, 2019 4:48:29 GMT
Shows like these take time to develop and so they definitely aren't targeted to today's ever-increasing short attention span and expectations for instant gratification. Really? I disagree because a series with a long story arc, even over several seasons, is a relatively new thing in television. Originally TV shows had independent episodes. I can't remember anything different when I was a kid. Maybe "The Fugitive" qualifies, but that didn't have a complicated plot line. I'm confused. You say you disagree, but then you go on to underscore what I said. lol
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Post by thornberry on Mar 4, 2019 5:04:18 GMT
Really? I disagree because a series with a long story arc, even over several seasons, is a relatively new thing in television. Originally TV shows had independent episodes. I can't remember anything different when I was a kid. Maybe "The Fugitive" qualifies, but that didn't have a complicated plot line. I'm confused. You say you disagree, but then you go on to underscore what I said. lol "Shows like these take time to develop and so they definitely aren't targeted to today's ever-increasing short attention span and expectations for instant gratification." I disagree that they aren't targeted to today's audience, however short its attention span may be. Because they are a recent development they must be targeted to today's audience. Not that today's audiences' attention spans aren't short. It is kind of surprising.
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Post by Admin on Mar 4, 2019 5:20:09 GMT
I'm confused. You say you disagree, but then you go on to underscore what I said. lol "Shows like these take time to develop and so they definitely aren't targeted to today's ever-increasing short attention span and expectations for instant gratification." I disagree that they aren't targeted to today's audience, however short its attention span may be. Because they are a recent development they must be targeted to today's audience. Not that today's audiences' attention spans aren't short. It is kind of surprising. They're definitely targeted to something, but it's not short attention spans and instant gratification. However, you do make a good point, and you've got Game of Thrones, The Walking Dead, and many others to prove it.
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Post by them1ghtyhumph on Mar 4, 2019 7:02:55 GMT
Comedy Channel/Central presented 'Short Attention Span Theater' from 1989-1994
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 12, 2019 21:43:04 GMT
I have wanted to watch The Sopranos for years and just recently finally decided to dive in. I'm about six or seven episodes into the first season, and I gotta say I'm not that impressed. It's okay, but not mind-blowingly good. The first season seems a little amateurish to be honest. The clips I've seen on YouTube make the show seem so much better. Is the first season a weaker one? I don't even know if I am going to bother with it after the first season. You are not alone. I remember it like this: It was one for about 3 seasons straight where it was REALLY GOOD. Then there was a hiatus for an unusual amount of time. And when it came back it was no longer as good. And even though it would go on to get somewhat better it never recaptured the heights of its first few seasons. And of course it ended... "meh".
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Post by movieliker on Mar 12, 2019 23:27:07 GMT
I've never seen it.
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Post by kuatorises on Mar 14, 2019 14:29:36 GMT
I have wanted to watch The Sopranos for years and just recently finally decided to dive in. I'm about six or seven episodes into the first season, and I gotta say I'm not that impressed. It's okay, but not mind-blowingly good. The first season seems a little amateurish to be honest. The clips I've seen on YouTube make the show seem so much better. Is the first season a weaker one? I don't even know if I am going to bother with it after the first season. You are not alone. I remember it like this: It was one for about 3 seasons straight where it was REALLY GOOD. Then there was a hiatus for an unusual amount of time. And when it came back it was no longer as good. And even though it would go on to get somewhat better it never recaptured the heights of its first few seasons. And of course it ended... "meh".
I didn't even think it was really good early on – just okay. I finished the first season and watched about three or four of the second and just don't have much of a desire to continue with. The funny part is all those clips on YouTube is what really got me interested. I always wanted to watch it but I like that kind of stuff – and the clips reinforcement – but when I sat and watched it I wasn't blown away.
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Post by twothousandonemark on Mar 14, 2019 16:33:12 GMT
A very good show I think that got way overhyped because its long form approach, & R rating of sorts, altered TV forever. Or at least the early 21st century.
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Post by CrepedCrusader on Apr 12, 2020 19:41:16 GMT
I only ever saw a few minutes here or there, and it always looked crappy.
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 12, 2020 19:50:08 GMT
I have wanted to watch The Sopranos for years and just recently finally decided to dive in. I'm about six or seven episodes into the first season, and I gotta say I'm not that impressed. It's okay, but not mind-blowingly good. The first season seems a little amateurish to be honest. The clips I've seen on YouTube make the show seem so much better. Is the first season a weaker one? I don't even know if I am going to bother with it after the first season. Imho it didn't age well. I loved it back in the day, but character like Janice threw me off when I wanted to re-watch it. But it also has brilliant moments. Pine Barrens is one of my favorite episodes: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_Barrens_(The_Sopranos)It's even the second highest rated episodes of the show...I just looked it up and was quite surprised. www.imdb.com/list/ls059696630/
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Post by theravenking on Apr 12, 2020 21:24:27 GMT
I like it a lot, although I have to admit I only started watching it because it aired on free tv in my country.
It has a lot of filler though and some really annoying supporting characters. Tony's sister was probably the worst.
I also think that as it went on positive reviews began to reflect on the show and the writers started thinking themselves smarter than they actually were. It also led to some people expecting too much of the show. I mean the finale came with such high expectations that there was no way it was going to fulfill them.
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Post by Prime etc. on Apr 12, 2020 22:18:45 GMT
I can hardly remember it! I didn't think about that Russian after it.
The plot hole that i thought about was the hidden money in the house? The mother's money? Janice was supposedly looking for it and then they dropped it.
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