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Post by shannondegroot on Mar 5, 2019 6:56:15 GMT
What do you think it was like during antediluvian times. Do you think paranormal beings / creatures existed? Were there great kingdoms and wars? Did magic exist?
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Post by RiP, IMDb on Mar 5, 2019 7:04:02 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2019 18:52:04 GMT
Antediluvian times... when were they then?
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Post by MCDemuth on Mar 7, 2019 22:34:10 GMT
Apparently people lived for over 1000 years. It's hard to imagine that...
I know that most of that period of "History" sounds like made up nonsense...
But, The possibility that if even just 1% of it was real, that can be quite disturbing...
Take about all those Ancient Egyptian Gods for example, like Anubis... They depict him as a man with a dog's head... It's very scary to imagine real creatures like those living among us, and walking around...
But my question is... If creatures, like: Anubis, didn't exist... Why or How did ancient cultures come to believe that they were actual physical beings?
What I mean is... People in our world today, believe in God, but they don't believe he is walking down the streets of Chicago, and running a Pizza Shop... (or maybe he is... LOL!)
So why did cultures like the Ancient Egyptians show Anubis to be interacting with them?
I just can't believe ancient peoples were all having (drug induced, like) visions about these things, thinking of them as being real... and, I find it hard to accept that every major historical culture around the planet, were writing complete fiction, instead of writing their history...
Fire Breathing "Dragons"?
Was there actually SOMETHING to inspire such myths?
And if so, then what?
I keep having to remember that the vocabulary that was available to ancient cultures, was much simpler back then...
I know many people hate the "Ancient Alien Theory", but they are right about one thing: The word "ALIEN", did not exist back then. If aliens did come to visit, ancient peoples would have called then Gods or Angels.
People suffering from what we would call today as "Pituitary Gigantism", might have been called "Giants", 10,000 years ago, because people didn't know better.
I do believe encounters strange beings and unknown creatures...
But I think that what they were described as, we shouldn't take so literally.
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Post by Winter_King on Mar 8, 2019 11:11:46 GMT
There is no such thing as "antediluvian times".
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Post by politicidal on Mar 17, 2019 0:53:44 GMT
Antediluvian times... when were they then? Antiquated term for the period that "existed" before the great flood in the Old Testament. So basically everything leading up to the bit with Noah's Ark.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 1, 2019 1:59:02 GMT
What do you think it was like during antediluvian times. Do you think paranormal beings/creatures existed? Were there great kingdoms and wars? Did magic exist?
, & . Why not, RiP? The Bible says there were giants, and angels that gave forbidden knowledge to humans. Don't any Catholics believe this happened literally anymore?
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Post by looking4klingons on Jul 26, 2019 6:30:17 GMT
What do you think it was like during antediluvian times. Do you think paranormal beings / creatures existed? Were there great kingdoms and wars? Did magic exist? To a degree, yes. Genesis 6:1-4 doesn’t give much context, but that event (or events) caused such bad conditions, that God intervened in a way He never has since! No doubt the situation that existed.....these “sons of God” having sex with women and producing offspring, the giant Nephilim......was the catalyst for the Ancient Greek, Roman, Hindu, Norse, etc., mythologies describing the gods having sex with women, and controlling men’s affairs. i often wonder if that’s where the technology came from, for the Egyptians to build the pyramids. The Mayans, too. A lot of indirect evidence for the Flood!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 9:22:42 GMT
What do you think it was like during antediluvian times. Do you think paranormal beings / creatures existed? Were there great kingdoms and wars? Did magic exist? To a degree, yes. Genesis 6:1-4 doesn’t give much context, but that event (or events) caused such bad conditions, that God intervened in a way He never has since! No doubt the situation that existed.....these “sons of God” having sex with women and producing offspring, the giant Nephilim......was the catalyst for the Ancient Greek, Roman, Hindu, Norse, etc., mythologies describing the gods having sex with women, and controlling men’s affairs. i often wonder if that’s where the technology came from, for the Egyptians to build the pyramids. The Mayans, too. A lot of indirect evidence for the Flood! Zero evidence for 'the flood'.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2019 9:23:10 GMT
Why not, RiP? The Bible says there were giants, and angels that gave forbidden knowledge to humans. Don't any Catholics believe this happened literally anymore? No. Well, I'm sure a couple do... but the rest of us look awkwardly at them, and keep them at arm's length.
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Post by looking4klingons on Jul 26, 2019 21:21:28 GMT
Global Flood evidence: 1.Vast herds, comprising perhaps millions of grazing animals, discovered within the muck fields by gold hunters in the Alaskan and Yukon regions. In the Siberian permafrost, a few have been discovered upright, with food (delicate flowers like buttercups, that only grow in temperate climates) discovered still unchewed in their mouths, like the Berezovka Mammoth. (They died instantly, not from a slow-moving ice age!) www.amendez.com/Noahs Ark Articles/NAS Worldwide Mammal Massacre.pdf The question is raised — and properly so: “How could a Global Flood cause such freezing temperatures?” Keep in mind, some of the water (not most...most were from the “vast springs” underneath the ground) came from above, from the atmosphere....the troposphere?...the mesosphere?...the stratosphere? The Bible doesn’t say, it is silent. (Maybe from all five.) But the waters above the Earth caused temperatures to be very mild, and pleasantly warm.... similar to a greenhouse effect, worldwide. (That’s why Adam & Eve could go naked, and be very comfortable.) Yes, the Bible indicates there were seasons, but apparently mild ones. All of that drastically changed, with the break in this canopy! Temperatures would drop suddenly! 2.This project, completed by physics students of the University of Leicester, provides an interesting conclusion: www.news.com.au/technology/science/university-of-leicester-physics-students-says-noahs-ark-would-have-floated-with-two-each-of-35000-species-of-animal/news-story/a7e558bc25fecf8e2865867579f05479. And this one: Could Noah’s Ark Float? In Theory, Yes | Science | Smithsonian Further information: Noah’s Ark was the focus of a major 1993 scientific study headed by Dr. Seon Hong at the world-class ship research center KRISO, based in Daejeon, South Korea. Dr. Hong’s team compared twelve hulls of different proportions to discover which design was most practical. No hull shape was found to significantly outperform the 4,300-year-old biblical design. In fact, the Ark’s careful balance is easily lost if the proportions are modified, rendering the vessel either unstable, prone to fracture, or dangerously uncomfortable. The research team found that the proportions of Noah’s Ark carefully balanced the conflicting demands of stability (resistance to capsizing), comfort (“seakeeping”), and strength. In fact, the Ark has the same proportions as a modern cargo ship. The study also confirmed that the Ark could handle waves as high as 100 ft (30 m). Dr. Hong is now director general of the facility and claims “life came from the sea,” obviously not the words of a creationist on a mission to promote the worldwide Flood. Endorsing the seaworthiness of Noah’s Ark obviously did not damage Dr. Hong’s credibility. Dr. Seon Won Hong was principal research scientist when he headed up the Noah’s Ark investigation. In May 2005 Dr. Hong was appointed director general of MOERI (formerly KRISO). Dr. Hong earned a B.S. degree in naval architecture from Seoul National University and a Ph.D. degree in applied mechanics from the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor. 3.Coupled with that, the dimensions of the Ark, a 6-to-1 ratio of length to width, and 10-to-1 ratio of length to height, are exactly what is needed for a non-powered vessel of that size to maintain stability! Only in the last 2 centuries have ship builders recognized that this ratio is perfect for non-powered barge-like ships to be seaworthy. This is powerful evidence supporting a literal interpretation: How could Moses have known, in recording the event, that Noah was given such ideal dimensions? Fortunate guessing? 4.The numerous Flood legends (exceeding 250, one anthropologist says near 1,000), that share many similarities, some strikingly so, that indicates a common source. 5.Furthermore, the Bible clearly states, in Psalms 104, that the Flood was the cause of Earth’s mountains reaching such great heights. (Due to the underground waters spewing upward, and the land settling downward.) This would mean the high mountainous ranges we have today, like the Alps, the Himalayas, the Andes, and others, did not exist before the Flood; they are relatively young in formation. Some were even underwater prior to the Flood — see #6. (Not that the rocks are young, but that the features they form, are new, geologically speaking. What do we see? We observe crisp, well-defined features! If these mountains were millions of years old, we would see weathered, rounded features, due to the extreme wind and other erosion forces that they constantly endure. But we don’t! (This evidence is the easiest of all the geological facts to see...yet to me the most overlooked.) 6.[related to #5]The marine creatures discovered on the tops of many mountain ranges, even on Mt. Everest — gigantic clams, some measuring 5 feet or more across, found in the closed position, indicating (again) that these creatures experienced a catastrophic event, leading to their quick death. (Clams in natural death, die w/ their shells open.) All remain exposed....if they’re millions of years old, why aren’t they eroded, also? Because these particular ones died at the Flood!! 7.Where did all the water go? Apparently, it’s still here, at the Earth. If we again take into account what Psalms 104 reveals — that it was the Flood that caused our current topography, the very high mountains and low valleys, then the Earth’s terrain was somewhat smoother than now. (And Genesis tells us, the highest mountain was covered by around 22 ft. of the water.) It’s been determined that if the Earth was smoothed out like a billiard ball, the present water in all the ocean and lake basins would cover the planet to a depth of 2.5 miles! More than enough.....yet, scientists have discovered even more water in the Earth’s mantle, estimated to be almost 10 times as much as exists on our surface! So, that presents no obstacle! 8.The Chinese character for "boat" comprises three radically different symbols: 'vessel', 'mouth' (representing a person), and the number ''8'. Why is this significant? Because there were 8 people who survived the Flood in the Ark. Some ancient Semitic person thought the Flood Event was worthy enough, to incorporate it into their language, helping others to remember the Chinese word for boat. They didn't have a Bible to get the idea from, and I doubt Moses knew any Chinese people, to get his writing from! Are you of the mindset that, when reading about God causing a global Flood, you don’t think He’d use His power throughout other aspects of the event? Or afterwards? Does Jehovah God have to reveal / explain everything He does? No, he doesn't.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2019 9:24:11 GMT
Global Flood evidence: 1.Vast herds, comprising perhaps millions of grazing animals, discovered within the muck fields by gold hunters in the Alaskan and Yukon regions. In the Siberian permafrost, a few have been discovered upright, with food (delicate flowers like buttercups, that only grow in temperate climates) discovered still unchewed in their mouths, like the Berezovka Mammoth. (They died instantly, not from a slow-moving ice age!) www.amendez.com/Noahs Ark Articles/NAS Worldwide Mammal Massacre.pdf The question is raised — and properly so: “How could a Global Flood cause such freezing temperatures?” Keep in mind, some of the water (not most...most were from the “vast springs” underneath the ground) came from above, from the atmosphere....the troposphere?...the mesosphere?...the stratosphere? The Bible doesn’t say, it is silent. (Maybe from all five.) But the waters above the Earth caused temperatures to be very mild, and pleasantly warm.... similar to a greenhouse effect, worldwide. (That’s why Adam & Eve could go naked, and be very comfortable.) Yes, the Bible indicates there were seasons, but apparently mild ones. All of that drastically changed, with the break in this canopy! Temperatures would drop suddenly! 2.This project, completed by physics students of the University of Leicester, provides an interesting conclusion: www.news.com.au/technology/science/university-of-leicester-physics-students-says-noahs-ark-would-have-floated-with-two-each-of-35000-species-of-animal/news-story/a7e558bc25fecf8e2865867579f05479. And this one: Could Noah’s Ark Float? In Theory, Yes | Science | Smithsonian Further information: Noah’s Ark was the focus of a major 1993 scientific study headed by Dr. Seon Hong at the world-class ship research center KRISO, based in Daejeon, South Korea. Dr. Hong’s team compared twelve hulls of different proportions to discover which design was most practical. No hull shape was found to significantly outperform the 4,300-year-old biblical design. In fact, the Ark’s careful balance is easily lost if the proportions are modified, rendering the vessel either unstable, prone to fracture, or dangerously uncomfortable. The research team found that the proportions of Noah’s Ark carefully balanced the conflicting demands of stability (resistance to capsizing), comfort (“seakeeping”), and strength. In fact, the Ark has the same proportions as a modern cargo ship. The study also confirmed that the Ark could handle waves as high as 100 ft (30 m). Dr. Hong is now director general of the facility and claims “life came from the sea,” obviously not the words of a creationist on a mission to promote the worldwide Flood. Endorsing the seaworthiness of Noah’s Ark obviously did not damage Dr. Hong’s credibility. Dr. Seon Won Hong was principal research scientist when he headed up the Noah’s Ark investigation. In May 2005 Dr. Hong was appointed director general of MOERI (formerly KRISO). Dr. Hong earned a B.S. degree in naval architecture from Seoul National University and a Ph.D. degree in applied mechanics from the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor. 3.Coupled with that, the dimensions of the Ark, a 6-to-1 ratio of length to width, and 10-to-1 ratio of length to height, are exactly what is needed for a non-powered vessel of that size to maintain stability! Only in the last 2 centuries have ship builders recognized that this ratio is perfect for non-powered barge-like ships to be seaworthy. This is powerful evidence supporting a literal interpretation: How could Moses have known, in recording the event, that Noah was given such ideal dimensions? Fortunate guessing? 4.The numerous Flood legends (exceeding 250, one anthropologist says near 1,000), that share many similarities, some strikingly so, that indicates a common source. 5.Furthermore, the Bible clearly states, in Psalms 104, that the Flood was the cause of Earth’s mountains reaching such great heights. (Due to the underground waters spewing upward, and the land settling downward.) This would mean the high mountainous ranges we have today, like the Alps, the Himalayas, the Andes, and others, did not exist before the Flood; they are relatively young in formation. Some were even underwater prior to the Flood — see #6. (Not that the rocks are young, but that the features they form, are new, geologically speaking. What do we see? We observe crisp, well-defined features! If these mountains were millions of years old, we would see weathered, rounded features, due to the extreme wind and other erosion forces that they constantly endure. But we don’t! (This evidence is the easiest of all the geological facts to see...yet to me the most overlooked.) 6.[related to #5]The marine creatures discovered on the tops of many mountain ranges, even on Mt. Everest — gigantic clams, some measuring 5 feet or more across, found in the closed position, indicating (again) that these creatures experienced a catastrophic event, leading to their quick death. (Clams in natural death, die w/ their shells open.) All remain exposed....if they’re millions of years old, why aren’t they eroded, also? Because these particular ones died at the Flood!! 7.Where did all the water go? Apparently, it’s still here, at the Earth. If we again take into account what Psalms 104 reveals — that it was the Flood that caused our current topography, the very high mountains and low valleys, then the Earth’s terrain was somewhat smoother than now. (And Genesis tells us, the highest mountain was covered by around 22 ft. of the water.) It’s been determined that if the Earth was smoothed out like a billiard ball, the present water in all the ocean and lake basins would cover the planet to a depth of 2.5 miles! More than enough.....yet, scientists have discovered even more water in the Earth’s mantle, estimated to be almost 10 times as much as exists on our surface! So, that presents no obstacle! 8.The Chinese character for "boat" comprises three radically different symbols: 'vessel', 'mouth' (representing a person), and the number ''8'. Why is this significant? Because there were 8 people who survived the Flood in the Ark. Some ancient Semitic person thought the Flood Event was worthy enough, to incorporate it into their language, helping others to remember the Chinese word for boat. They didn't have a Bible to get the idea from, and I doubt Moses knew any Chinese people, to get his writing from! Are you of the mindset that, when reading about God causing a global Flood, you don’t think He’d use His power throughout other aspects of the event? Or afterwards? Does Jehovah God have to reveal / explain everything He does? No, he doesn't. None of that evidences a global flood, at all. 5 is hilarious. 6 shows a staggering lack of geological knowledge. That's all pseudo-archaeology rubbish. There never has been a global flood event. If there had been, it would have left it's signature in the stratigraphic record the world over... It hasn't, which leads to only two conclusions. 1. It never happened. 2. God tidied away all the evidence of his global flood for a laugh or something. Which is most likely?
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Post by politicidal on Jul 27, 2019 11:09:36 GMT
Ever read a Robert E. Howard story? Something like that if it was up to me. But I’m not God so we’d just have to settle for giants and angel-human hybrids.
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Post by looking4klingons on Jul 29, 2019 6:30:02 GMT
Global Flood evidence: 1.Vast herds, comprising perhaps millions of grazing animals, discovered within the muck fields by gold hunters in the Alaskan and Yukon regions. In the Siberian permafrost, a few have been discovered upright, with food (delicate flowers like buttercups, that only grow in temperate climates) discovered still unchewed in their mouths, like the Berezovka Mammoth. (They died instantly, not from a slow-moving ice age!) www.amendez.com/Noahs Ark Articles/NAS Worldwide Mammal Massacre.pdf The question is raised — and properly so: “How could a Global Flood cause such freezing temperatures?” Keep in mind, some of the water (not most...most were from the “vast springs” underneath the ground) came from above, from the atmosphere....the troposphere?...the mesosphere?...the stratosphere? The Bible doesn’t say, it is silent. (Maybe from all five.) But the waters above the Earth caused temperatures to be very mild, and pleasantly warm.... similar to a greenhouse effect, worldwide. (That’s why Adam & Eve could go naked, and be very comfortable.) Yes, the Bible indicates there were seasons, but apparently mild ones. All of that drastically changed, with the break in this canopy! Temperatures would drop suddenly! 2.This project, completed by physics students of the University of Leicester, provides an interesting conclusion: www.news.com.au/technology/science/university-of-leicester-physics-students-says-noahs-ark-would-have-floated-with-two-each-of-35000-species-of-animal/news-story/a7e558bc25fecf8e2865867579f05479. And this one: Could Noah’s Ark Float? In Theory, Yes | Science | Smithsonian Further information: Noah’s Ark was the focus of a major 1993 scientific study headed by Dr. Seon Hong at the world-class ship research center KRISO, based in Daejeon, South Korea. Dr. Hong’s team compared twelve hulls of different proportions to discover which design was most practical. No hull shape was found to significantly outperform the 4,300-year-old biblical design. In fact, the Ark’s careful balance is easily lost if the proportions are modified, rendering the vessel either unstable, prone to fracture, or dangerously uncomfortable. The research team found that the proportions of Noah’s Ark carefully balanced the conflicting demands of stability (resistance to capsizing), comfort (“seakeeping”), and strength. In fact, the Ark has the same proportions as a modern cargo ship. The study also confirmed that the Ark could handle waves as high as 100 ft (30 m). Dr. Hong is now director general of the facility and claims “life came from the sea,” obviously not the words of a creationist on a mission to promote the worldwide Flood. Endorsing the seaworthiness of Noah’s Ark obviously did not damage Dr. Hong’s credibility. Dr. Seon Won Hong was principal research scientist when he headed up the Noah’s Ark investigation. In May 2005 Dr. Hong was appointed director general of MOERI (formerly KRISO). Dr. Hong earned a B.S. degree in naval architecture from Seoul National University and a Ph.D. degree in applied mechanics from the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor. 3.Coupled with that, the dimensions of the Ark, a 6-to-1 ratio of length to width, and 10-to-1 ratio of length to height, are exactly what is needed for a non-powered vessel of that size to maintain stability! Only in the last 2 centuries have ship builders recognized that this ratio is perfect for non-powered barge-like ships to be seaworthy. This is powerful evidence supporting a literal interpretation: How could Moses have known, in recording the event, that Noah was given such ideal dimensions? Fortunate guessing? 4.The numerous Flood legends (exceeding 250, one anthropologist says near 1,000), that share many similarities, some strikingly so, that indicates a common source. 5.Furthermore, the Bible clearly states, in Psalms 104, that the Flood was the cause of Earth’s mountains reaching such great heights. (Due to the underground waters spewing upward, and the land settling downward.) This would mean the high mountainous ranges we have today, like the Alps, the Himalayas, the Andes, and others, did not exist before the Flood; they are relatively young in formation. Some were even underwater prior to the Flood — see #6. (Not that the rocks are young, but that the features they form, are new, geologically speaking. What do we see? We observe crisp, well-defined features! If these mountains were millions of years old, we would see weathered, rounded features, due to the extreme wind and other erosion forces that they constantly endure. But we don’t! (This evidence is the easiest of all the geological facts to see...yet to me the most overlooked.) 6.[related to #5]The marine creatures discovered on the tops of many mountain ranges, even on Mt. Everest — gigantic clams, some measuring 5 feet or more across, found in the closed position, indicating (again) that these creatures experienced a catastrophic event, leading to their quick death. (Clams in natural death, die w/ their shells open.) All remain exposed....if they’re millions of years old, why aren’t they eroded, also? Because these particular ones died at the Flood!! 7.Where did all the water go? Apparently, it’s still here, at the Earth. If we again take into account what Psalms 104 reveals — that it was the Flood that caused our current topography, the very high mountains and low valleys, then the Earth’s terrain was somewhat smoother than now. (And Genesis tells us, the highest mountain was covered by around 22 ft. of the water.) It’s been determined that if the Earth was smoothed out like a billiard ball, the present water in all the ocean and lake basins would cover the planet to a depth of 2.5 miles! More than enough.....yet, scientists have discovered even more water in the Earth’s mantle, estimated to be almost 10 times as much as exists on our surface! So, that presents no obstacle! 8.The Chinese character for "boat" comprises three radically different symbols: 'vessel', 'mouth' (representing a person), and the number ''8'. Why is this significant? Because there were 8 people who survived the Flood in the Ark. Some ancient Semitic person thought the Flood Event was worthy enough, to incorporate it into their language, helping others to remember the Chinese word for boat. They didn't have a Bible to get the idea from, and I doubt Moses knew any Chinese people, to get his writing from! Are you of the mindset that, when reading about God causing a global Flood, you don’t think He’d use His power throughout other aspects of the event? Or afterwards? Does Jehovah God have to reveal / explain everything He does? No, he doesn't. None of that evidences a global flood, at all. 5 is hilarious. 6 shows a staggering lack of geological knowledge. That's all pseudo-archaeology rubbish. There never has been a global flood event. If there had been, it would have left it's signature in the stratigraphic record the world over... It hasn't, which leads to only two conclusions. 1. It never happened. 2. God tidied away all the evidence of his global flood for a laugh or something. Which is most likely? That's quite a myopic reply! But it's to be expected, I guess. Revelation 12:9
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Post by Winter_King on Aug 2, 2019 12:53:43 GMT
Global Flood evidence: 1.Vast herds, comprising perhaps millions of grazing animals, discovered within the muck fields by gold hunters in the Alaskan and Yukon regions. In the Siberian permafrost, a few have been discovered upright, with food (delicate flowers like buttercups, that only grow in temperate climates) discovered still unchewed in their mouths, like the Berezovka Mammoth. (They died instantly, not from a slow-moving ice age!) www.amendez.com/Noahs Ark Articles/NAS Worldwide Mammal Massacre.pdf The question is raised — and properly so: “How could a Global Flood cause such freezing temperatures?” Keep in mind, some of the water (not most...most were from the “vast springs” underneath the ground) came from above, from the atmosphere....the troposphere?...the mesosphere?...the stratosphere? The Bible doesn’t say, it is silent. (Maybe from all five.) But the waters above the Earth caused temperatures to be very mild, and pleasantly warm.... similar to a greenhouse effect, worldwide. (That’s why Adam & Eve could go naked, and be very comfortable.) Yes, the Bible indicates there were seasons, but apparently mild ones. All of that drastically changed, with the break in this canopy! Temperatures would drop suddenly! 2.This project, completed by physics students of the University of Leicester, provides an interesting conclusion: www.news.com.au/technology/science/university-of-leicester-physics-students-says-noahs-ark-would-have-floated-with-two-each-of-35000-species-of-animal/news-story/a7e558bc25fecf8e2865867579f05479. And this one: Could Noah’s Ark Float? In Theory, Yes | Science | Smithsonian Further information: Noah’s Ark was the focus of a major 1993 scientific study headed by Dr. Seon Hong at the world-class ship research center KRISO, based in Daejeon, South Korea. Dr. Hong’s team compared twelve hulls of different proportions to discover which design was most practical. No hull shape was found to significantly outperform the 4,300-year-old biblical design. In fact, the Ark’s careful balance is easily lost if the proportions are modified, rendering the vessel either unstable, prone to fracture, or dangerously uncomfortable. The research team found that the proportions of Noah’s Ark carefully balanced the conflicting demands of stability (resistance to capsizing), comfort (“seakeeping”), and strength. In fact, the Ark has the same proportions as a modern cargo ship. The study also confirmed that the Ark could handle waves as high as 100 ft (30 m). Dr. Hong is now director general of the facility and claims “life came from the sea,” obviously not the words of a creationist on a mission to promote the worldwide Flood. Endorsing the seaworthiness of Noah’s Ark obviously did not damage Dr. Hong’s credibility. Dr. Seon Won Hong was principal research scientist when he headed up the Noah’s Ark investigation. In May 2005 Dr. Hong was appointed director general of MOERI (formerly KRISO). Dr. Hong earned a B.S. degree in naval architecture from Seoul National University and a Ph.D. degree in applied mechanics from the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor. 3.Coupled with that, the dimensions of the Ark, a 6-to-1 ratio of length to width, and 10-to-1 ratio of length to height, are exactly what is needed for a non-powered vessel of that size to maintain stability! Only in the last 2 centuries have ship builders recognized that this ratio is perfect for non-powered barge-like ships to be seaworthy. This is powerful evidence supporting a literal interpretation: How could Moses have known, in recording the event, that Noah was given such ideal dimensions? Fortunate guessing? 4.The numerous Flood legends (exceeding 250, one anthropologist says near 1,000), that share many similarities, some strikingly so, that indicates a common source. 5.Furthermore, the Bible clearly states, in Psalms 104, that the Flood was the cause of Earth’s mountains reaching such great heights. (Due to the underground waters spewing upward, and the land settling downward.) This would mean the high mountainous ranges we have today, like the Alps, the Himalayas, the Andes, and others, did not exist before the Flood; they are relatively young in formation. Some were even underwater prior to the Flood — see #6. (Not that the rocks are young, but that the features they form, are new, geologically speaking. What do we see? We observe crisp, well-defined features! If these mountains were millions of years old, we would see weathered, rounded features, due to the extreme wind and other erosion forces that they constantly endure. But we don’t! (This evidence is the easiest of all the geological facts to see...yet to me the most overlooked.) 6.[related to #5]The marine creatures discovered on the tops of many mountain ranges, even on Mt. Everest — gigantic clams, some measuring 5 feet or more across, found in the closed position, indicating (again) that these creatures experienced a catastrophic event, leading to their quick death. (Clams in natural death, die w/ their shells open.) All remain exposed....if they’re millions of years old, why aren’t they eroded, also? Because these particular ones died at the Flood!! 7.Where did all the water go? Apparently, it’s still here, at the Earth. If we again take into account what Psalms 104 reveals — that it was the Flood that caused our current topography, the very high mountains and low valleys, then the Earth’s terrain was somewhat smoother than now. (And Genesis tells us, the highest mountain was covered by around 22 ft. of the water.) It’s been determined that if the Earth was smoothed out like a billiard ball, the present water in all the ocean and lake basins would cover the planet to a depth of 2.5 miles! More than enough.....yet, scientists have discovered even more water in the Earth’s mantle, estimated to be almost 10 times as much as exists on our surface! So, that presents no obstacle! 8.The Chinese character for "boat" comprises three radically different symbols: 'vessel', 'mouth' (representing a person), and the number ''8'. Why is this significant? Because there were 8 people who survived the Flood in the Ark. Some ancient Semitic person thought the Flood Event was worthy enough, to incorporate it into their language, helping others to remember the Chinese word for boat. They didn't have a Bible to get the idea from, and I doubt Moses knew any Chinese people, to get his writing from! Are you of the mindset that, when reading about God causing a global Flood, you don’t think He’d use His power throughout other aspects of the event? Or afterwards? Does Jehovah God have to reveal / explain everything He does? No, he doesn't. You can find evidence of several floods including flash floods. There is absolutely no evidence of a global flood. Not to mention that the traditional dates given to the flood are contradicted by the fact that some civilizations flourishing at the time.
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Post by looking4klingons on Oct 6, 2023 5:30:34 GMT
Apparently people lived for over 1000 years. It's hard to imagine that... I know that most of that period of "History" sounds like made up nonsense... But, The possibility that if even just 1% of it was real, that can be quite disturbing... Take about all those Ancient Egyptian Gods for example, like Anubis... They depict him as a man with a dog's head... It's very scary to imagine real creatures like those living among us, and walking around... But my question is... If creatures, like: Anubis, didn't exist... Why or How did ancient cultures come to believe that they were actual physical beings? What I mean is... People in our world today, believe in God, but they don't believe he is walking down the streets of Chicago, and running a Pizza Shop... ( or maybe he is... LOL!) So why did cultures like the Ancient Egyptians show Anubis to be interacting with them? I just can't believe ancient peoples were all having (drug induced, like) visions about these things, thinking of them as being real... and, I find it hard to accept that every major historical culture around the planet, were writing complete fiction, instead of writing their history... Fire Breathing "Dragons"? Was there actually SOMETHING to inspire such myths? And if so, then what? I keep having to remember that the vocabulary that was available to ancient cultures, was much simpler back then... I know many people hate the "Ancient Alien Theory", but they are right about one thing: The word "ALIEN", did not exist back then. If aliens did come to visit, ancient peoples would have called then Gods or Angels. People suffering from what we would call today as "Pituitary Gigantism", might have been called "Giants", 10,000 years ago, because people didn't know better. I do believe encounters strange beings and unknown creatures... But I think that what they were described as, we shouldn't take so literally. “If creatures, like: Anubis, didn't exist... Why or How did ancient cultures come to believe that they were actual physical beings?” Great question! Please note Genesis 6:1-4… notice the “sons of God”? Who are these? The Apostle Peter sheds some light, at 2 Peter 2:4,5…..Jude also at Jude 1:6. They’ve been misleading mankind, ever since! I mean, what kind of real threat & fear would it take, do you believe, to get parents to sacrifice their children in fire?!? They’ve tried to keep people from learning about the Creator Jehovah, and the truth in God’s Word, for thousands of years! They’re more careful, now, in how they treat humans; especially since the Good News of the Kingdom (Matthew 24:14) has been, and is being, preached. Instead of directly influencing people, they work “behind the scenes”, so to speak, to dissuade humans from searching. Almost everything the Bible teaches, has been corrupted, maligned or misinterpreted.
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