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Post by miike80 on Jun 21, 2019 11:21:50 GMT
Momoa as Aquaman Schwarzie as Mr Freeze Ezra Miller- The Flash
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Post by jimanchower on Jun 23, 2019 2:56:27 GMT
I actually really like Rudd's take on Ant-Man He has made the character his own, but physically, Jackman as Wolverine may be one of the worst. Especially when you consider that Bob Hoskins was considered the perfect match for the role back in the 80s Keanu Reeves - Constantine "Especially when you consider that Bob Hoskins was considered the perfect match for the role back in the 80s"?
By who? Other than being taller (good luck finding a 5'3" guy who can pull off Wolverine or an audience who would want to see a 5'3" superhero in the first place) Jackman is perfect for Wolverine.
Hoskins would have been in his 40s in the 80s and ....well,let's just say he didn't exactly have a super hero build. The guy was a great actor but come on.
Other than being short how in the world would Bob Hoskins have been a "perfect match" for playing Wolverine? The only person I found who "wanted" Hoskins for Wolverine is Chris Claremont. Did he even have anything to do with casting the X Men film?
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Post by jimanchower on Jun 23, 2019 3:01:07 GMT
Jesse Eisenberg - Lex Luthor Yeah, that was fucked.
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Post by jimanchower on Jun 23, 2019 3:02:51 GMT
Michael Keaton-Batman Too short, too slight. Because of his lack of athletic ability they had to give him a rubber costume. Imagine him as Superman in place of Christopher Reeve. In fact, they say Bill Murrey was considered for Superman--in a way Keaton was the fulfillment of that horrifying idea--the only saving grace was his costume obscured the problems (half the time--the other half it contributed to the problems-"the fat neck dude they call Big B?").. Just because he didn't act in a joking fashion didn't mean he was ideal for the role. Bob Hoskins would have been terrible as Logan. The comics version is someone like Charles McGraw but short. Yeah, no, Keaton was great. He's still probably the most popular Batman. I love him as Batman, I wish they'd do Dark Knight Returns with him before he's too old.
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Post by jimanchower on Jun 23, 2019 3:07:26 GMT
Hoskins circa Long Good Friday would have been amazingBy He still wasn't the comics character. A short Charles McGraw is how he was depicted in his first appearance with the Hulk.
It's weird, given that in Roger Rabbit his character was described as a Costello type, and he portrayed the sidekick to Captain Hook. I can't picture Costello/Smee as Wolverine. Only perhaps in animation.
It doesn't matter how Wolverine was first depicted, if comic characters were depicted the way they originally were Batman would have a gun, Superman couldn't fly and the Hulk wasn't dumb and he was grey.
A young Hoskins might have worked as Wolverine but he was way too old by the time they started making the movies, even if the movie had been made in the late 80s early 90s he would have been close to 50.
By the mid to late 80s Hoskins was more suited to police detective or everyman roles than being a super hero.
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Post by jimanchower on Jun 23, 2019 3:37:03 GMT
Momoa as Aquaman Schwarzie as Mr Freeze Ezra Miller- The Flash Yeah, Miller is awful. He's not at all suited to a superhero role.
I'm surprised nobody mentioned Brie Larson. There's just something unlikeable about her. She's more suited to playing the mean popular girl or a yuppie housewife than a super hero.
She's also really wooden, she has no charm or charisma.
It's going to be interesting watching Marvel go forward since they apparently have hitched their wagon to Larson and Captain Marvel.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 23, 2019 7:19:59 GMT
Yeah, no, Keaton was great. He's still probably the most popular Batman. I love him as Batman, I wish they'd do Dark Knight Returns with him before he's too old. Adam West is probably more popular as Batman. Keaton only appeared twice--West did tons of Batman shows and a movie.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 23, 2019 7:23:23 GMT
It doesn't matter how Wolverine was first depicted, if comic characters were depicted the way they originally were Batman would have a gun, Superman couldn't fly and the Hulk wasn't dumb and he was grey.
The latter Wolverine also matched McGraw so it doesn't make a difference. If the choice was between young Hoskins or young McGraw, McGraw wins.
Young Hoskins was playing comical cops, McGraw was playing convicts.
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Post by jimanchower on Jun 23, 2019 7:57:09 GMT
Yeah, no, Keaton was great. He's still probably the most popular Batman. I love him as Batman, I wish they'd do Dark Knight Returns with him before he's too old. Adam West is probably more popular as Batman. Keaton only appeared twice--West did tons of Batman shows and a movie.
You're crazy. Adam West might be more popular among senior citizens but his depiction of Batman is known for being campy and ridiculous. If you ask your grandma or grandpa they might say West just because they remember his show from 50 years ago.
But if you ask actual Batman fans or people born in the last 50 years it's Keaton.
Keaton was great. West's depiction was a flash in the pan, it got red hot for a season or two then was mocked for the next 20 years.
There's no way in hell West is more popular than Keaton now. The only actor who might give Keaton a run for his money is Bale, just because those movies are more recent.
But West? Nah, not unless you're 50 or up.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 23, 2019 8:03:09 GMT
You're crazy. Adam West might be more popular among senior citizens but his depiction of Batman is known for being campy and ridiculous. If you ask your grandma or grandpa they might say West just because they remember his show from 50 years ago.
But if you ask actual Batman fans or people born in the last 50 years it's Keaton.
Keaton was great. West's depiction was a flash in the pan, it got red hot for a season or two then was mocked for the next 20 years.
There's no way in hell West is more popular than Keaton now. The only actor who might give Keaton a run for his money is Bale, just because those movies are more recent.
But West? Nah, not unless you're 50 or up.
Keaton's popularity faded fast. West even came back and did another animated film, that is how much he was identified with the character.
Guaranteed West will still be remembered for Batman well into the future while Keaton will be remembered as the actor who did Beetlejuice and did "Tim Burton's" Batman. No one says Adam West did William Dozier's Batman. Your claim would only have merit if no one watched the 60s show anymore.
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Post by jimanchower on Jun 23, 2019 8:44:48 GMT
You're crazy. Adam West might be more popular among senior citizens but his depiction of Batman is known for being campy and ridiculous. If you ask your grandma or grandpa they might say West just because they remember his show from 50 years ago.
But if you ask actual Batman fans or people born in the last 50 years it's Keaton.
Keaton was great. West's depiction was a flash in the pan, it got red hot for a season or two then was mocked for the next 20 years.
There's no way in hell West is more popular than Keaton now. The only actor who might give Keaton a run for his money is Bale, just because those movies are more recent.
But West? Nah, not unless you're 50 or up.
Keaton's popularity faded fast. West even came back and did another animated film, that is how much he was identified with the character.
Guaranteed West will still be remembered for Batman well into the future while Keaton will be remembered as the actor who did Beetlejuice and did "Tim Burton's" Batman. No one says Adam West did William Dozier's Batman. Your claim would only have merit if no one watched the 60s show anymore.
No, my claim is that senior citizens or at least people 50+ and up who watched the show the first time around might prefer West.....but his show is known for being campy and ridiculous.
What does him coming back and doing an animated movie have to do with anything? They make Batman animated movies constantly all kinds of actors have voiced Batman.
Keaton's popularity didn't fade lol. His Batman is always ranked highly in fan polls, often winning. Like I said the only actor I can see giving him a run is Bale because of how recent those films are. There was a big push by fans not long ago to get Keaton to play Batman again.
Keaton is still incredibly popular and you sound ridiculous trying to claim otherwise dude. I don't know why people like you try to argue nonsense instead of just moving on.
You obviously don't like Keaton's Batman....but a whole lot of people did and do. Sorry about reality but there it is.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 23, 2019 10:26:34 GMT
No, my claim is that senior citizens or at least people 50+ and up who watched the show the first time around might prefer West.....but his show is known for being campy and ridiculous.
What does him coming back and doing an animated movie have to do with anything?
It means someone other than senior citizens is watching it.
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Post by jimanchower on Jun 23, 2019 11:16:58 GMT
No, my claim is that senior citizens or at least people 50+ and up who watched the show the first time around might prefer West.....but his show is known for being campy and ridiculous.
What does him coming back and doing an animated movie have to do with anything?
It means someone other than senior citizens is watching it. I didn't say only senior citizens were watching the 60s Batman show. We were talking about "most popular" remember not "have you seen?".
How many people today do you honestly think prefer his corny campy version of Batman over Bale or Keaton? And that's not even mentioning Conroy. Even though he only did the voice he's hugely popular.
West is definitely remembered and of course there's nostalgia for that corny old show but like I said, I don't know how many people prefer his Batman over Keaton or Bale.
People grew up seeing him playing Batman at car shows or in TV commercials or heard him on Super Friends and of course seeing the campy 60s show. But for years after the show he couldn't get any work OTHER than Batman. That's why he's remembered AS Batman by so many people, it's not just the show. Being Batman in one form or anther was basically his career for 40 years even though the show only lasted what, 2?
Remember when they were making Batman (the movie) and West was lobbying and then complaining because they wouldn't use him for the movie? The dude was in his 60s probably and was still trying to play Batman and was angry that they didn't use him.
His show is like a time capsule and wouldn't fly today, look at the reaction Batman and Robin got by imitating the campiness of the old series.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 23, 2019 15:13:12 GMT
I didn't say only senior citizens were watching the 60s Batman show. We were talking about "most popular" remember not "have you seen?".
The old series was extremely popular when it premiered-that's why so many famous actors wanted to be in it.
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Post by jimanchower on Jun 23, 2019 20:15:32 GMT
I didn't say only senior citizens were watching the 60s Batman show. We were talking about "most popular" remember not "have you seen?".
The old series was extremely popular when it premiered-that's why so many famous actors wanted to be in it. Yeah.....almost 55 years ago.
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Post by Prime etc. on Jun 23, 2019 20:18:42 GMT
Yeah.....almost 55 years ago.
Yep, much older than the 89 Batman and yet still being reshown-promoted.
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