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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 7:05:42 GMT
with Brie Larson being so vocal and brazen about men in general and especially 40 plus yo white males, and in the erra of the ever pushed female power and in th metooed and most PC age so far, can we even expect most critics to be brave enough to rate it as freely as they would have, had it been a male driven movie or 5 years ago? I really think more and more that the agenda now overpowers the movie. But maybe I am wrong. to be fair I have not seen it yet so maybe it Is really That great, who knows. I just wonder... what are your thoughts on this? No offence Nora but I disagree with you about this being an era of 'ever pushed female power' in Hollywood with one of the main reasons being there has been less female representation in movies in this decade than there was in the 90s or any decade going back to the 1930s and in 2017 (the year of 'Wonder Woman' that was so feminist) 86 percent of movies all had white male leads while the remaining 14 percent got more coverage in the media 'cause of men crying over them and it wasn't much different in 2018. While we are getting some female lead movies they are so few and in between 'Captain Marvel' is only the second female lead superhero movie we have had in the past 15 years yet we have people acting like it is the 52nd. In a platform like comic books where we have had a large amount of female lead series that have been successful including many recent ones written by female writers that is very crappy. 'Saga' is the biggest selling new comic book series and graphic novel of the past twenty years and last year we saw Marjorie Liu wipe the floor with her series 'Monstress' beating many DC and Marvel series at the Eisner and Hugo Awards and becoming the first female writer to win the 'Best Writer' award but Hollywood have kept the comic book movie genre a boy's only club with every male and their dog that hasn't sold half of what other series have getting a movie handed to them 'cause they had male leads. Comic books have been far more progressive than Hollywood for the past 30 years when it comes to female leads and Hollywood is way at the back of the line when it comes to catch ups.
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Post by Nora on Mar 20, 2019 3:24:00 GMT
with Brie Larson being so vocal and brazen about men in general and especially 40 plus yo white males, and in the erra of the ever pushed female power and in th metooed and most PC age so far, can we even expect most critics to be brave enough to rate it as freely as they would have, had it been a male driven movie or 5 years ago? I really think more and more that the agenda now overpowers the movie. But maybe I am wrong. to be fair I have not seen it yet so maybe it Is really That great, who knows. I just wonder... what are your thoughts on this? No offence Nora but I disagree with you about this being an era of 'ever pushed female power' in Hollywood with one of the main reasons being there has been less female representation in movies in this decade than there was in the 90s or any decade going back to the 1930s and in 2017 (the year of 'Wonder Woman' that was so feminist) 86 percent of movies all had white male leads while the remaining 14 percent got more coverage in the media 'cause of men crying over them and it wasn't much different in 2018. While we are getting some female lead movies they are so few and in between 'Captain Marvel' is only the second female lead superhero movie we have had in the past 15 years yet we have people acting like it is the 52nd. In a platform like comic books where we have had a large amount of female lead series that have been successful including many recent ones written by female writers that is very crappy. 'Saga' is the biggest selling new comic book series and graphic novel of the past twenty years and last year we saw Marjorie Liu wipe the floor with her series 'Monstress' beating many DC and Marvel series at the Eisner and Hugo Awards and becoming the first female writer to win the 'Best Writer' award but Hollywood have kept the comic book movie genre a boy's only club with every male and their dog that hasn't sold half of what other series have getting a movie handed to them 'cause they had male leads. Comic books have been far more progressive than Hollywood for the past 30 years when it comes to female leads and Hollywood is way at the back of the line when it comes to catch ups. I get your point but I think it can be both. It can be the era of females being aggressively promoted and strongly pushed forward, and at the same time an era where still most of movies are made by and star men. If you think about the phenomenon of forced bussing, where black people were bused to otherwise predominantly white schools, in order to "balance things out" and help achieve a more equal representation, to me this is similar. And I am not a fan of such actions, where it feels like it is too forceful or becoming socially distorting instead of helpful. And I find the female agenda too strong in the past few years, especially in certain industries. Example: I get contacted by various film industry people "because I am a woman". They even openly say so. They may or may not love my work and it may or may not be also the reason why they reach out to me. But it may also be "purely" because I am a woman. Some even tell me "as a female filmmaker, you bring something extra" or "we want to involve as many female filmmakers as possible" etc. I would love for my work to be recognized regardless of my sex, you know? And I totally "hate" activities or industry groups or meetings "for women only". How is that not discriminatory in nature? I was several times pushed into these activities and was openly told that if I dont participate I will hurt my career etc. WTF. I would like to see more female filmmakers and leads, sure, if they have interesting stories and story telling style, the more the merrier. And I think its headed that way, but we have to realize it will take some time before it balances the decades of actual hard barriers entry and not rush it by being aggressive about it. Things like "male director should not direct a female lead" or "there should be more all women projects" really stir me wrong. I wanna see cooperation of both-all sexes, not division and ostracizing of one (because their ancestors may or may not have wronged women in the past.) Do we hold people whose families had slaves hundred and more years ago still accountable for it? No. and we shouldnt. Same with poor Germans, still forced to forever apologize for Hitler and the nazis. Come on. The majority people living today had nothing to do with it and unless they are supporting or promoting it, they shouldnt have to keep apologizing for it. Sorry for the rant. I really do see your point and understand that women have been oppressed for a long time and still face the results of it. But in my eyes these days are over for most civilized countries and women have to learn to stand up for themselves and fight for themselves without demanding advantage because of their gender. And what Brie Larson is doing to me read "dividing" instead of "uniting". I like Emma Watsons approach much more. She never seems to forget to underscore how both sexes are equal.
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