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Post by movieliker on Sept 26, 2020 4:05:51 GMT
I find it odd how Evolutionists claim man has been evolving for millions of years and as modern humans we’ve been around for about 200,000 years. Yet there is no recorded history stretching further than 6000 years which coincidentally enough is how long many Christians believe the bible dates as the beginning of mankind. We have no writings, no battles, no wars, no countries, no carved stones, no nothing. If human evolution is true then surely it would be traceable far beyond 4000bc. Because there was no writing or alphabet until about 3,500 BC.
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Post by maya55555 on Sept 26, 2020 4:14:36 GMT
I find it odd how Evolutionists claim man has been evolving for millions of years and as modern humans we’ve been around for about 200,000 years. Yet there is no recorded history stretching further than 6000 years which coincidentally enough is how long many Christians believe the bible dates as the beginning of mankind. We have no writings, no battles, no wars, no countries, no carved stones, no nothing. If human evolution is true then surely it would be traceable far beyond 4000bc. Because there was no writing or alphabet until about 3,500 BC. That we know.
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Post by movieliker on Sept 26, 2020 4:22:12 GMT
Because there was no writing or alphabet until about 3,500 BC. That we know. I was just answering the OP's question.
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Post by maya55555 on Sept 26, 2020 4:50:47 GMT
I was just answering the OP's question. I was leaving open the possibility of new discoveries or data that has yet to be released.
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Post by drystyx on Sept 26, 2020 5:00:54 GMT
Actually, there is a recorded History. I wrote "History of the World Part IV" in 85,608 BC, but my manuscript was stolen by some caveman named "Mel", who plagiarized it under another title, and there was nothing I could do about it.
I even put the date "85,608 BC" on my manuscript to let people know when I wrote it.
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Post by moviemouth on Sept 26, 2020 5:33:30 GMT
Because human beings didn't create the written word yet.
The oldest recorded history is from 5,000 years ago.
Do you think that early humans just were born with knowing the importance of recording stuff that happens? That would come later when the parts of the brain that has to do with intellect became more advanced.
However...
The earliest known European figurative cave paintings are those of Chauvet Cave in France. These paintings date to earlier than 30,000-40,000 BCE (Upper Paleolithic) according to radiocarbon dating.
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Post by movieliker on Sept 26, 2020 8:07:34 GMT
I was just answering the OP's question. I was leaving open the possibility of new discoveries or data that has yet to be released. You are not the OP. Last I saw and heard, that is the latest explanation.
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Post by maya55555 on Sept 26, 2020 18:43:14 GMT
I was leaving open the possibility of new discoveries or data that has yet to be released. You are not the OP. Last I saw and heard, that is the latest explanation.
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Post by llanwydd on Sept 26, 2020 19:49:29 GMT
Somebody said something in this thread, but I have no time to go searching for it, to the effect that it is mostly Christian fundamentalists who believe in the 6000 year age of the earth. Can anybody tell me what is a fundamentalist or are there, as I suspect, several disputed definitions and why is it this group that believes in a 6000 year old earth? Thanks in advance.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 26, 2020 20:26:57 GMT
I find it odd how Evolutionists claim man has been evolving for millions of years and as modern humans we’ve been around for about 200,000 years. Yet there is no recorded history stretching further than 6000 years which coincidentally enough is how long many Christians believe the bible dates as the beginning of mankind. We have no writings, no battles, no wars, no countries, no carved stones, no nothing. If human evolution is true then surely it would be traceable far beyond 4000bc. Well.....if my theory about the Tower of Babel is correct.....there was no need for for it earlier. No need for a written language or a spoken language.
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Post by goz on Sept 26, 2020 21:32:09 GMT
What does it matter if there is other evidence of human evolution? We have geological evidence and most importantly DNA evidence which entirely refutes Young Earth Creationism ( or any other of those crackpot beliefs) and conclusively proves evolutionary theory. It also proves sociological evidence of socialisation into groups/tribes and self expression of ideas with the formation of art and later writing. Australian aboriginal art has been conclusively dated at 28,000 years old and is possibly up to 40,000 years old. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Australian_art#:~:text=Australian%20Aboriginal%20art%20is%20the%20oldest%20unbroken%20tradition,in%20south-western%20Arnhem%20Land%20in%20the%20Northern%20Territory. Rock art painting as a pre-cursor to writing, as a form of exterior self expression.
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Post by movieliker on Sept 26, 2020 21:43:02 GMT
What does it matter if there is other evidence of human evolution? We have geological evidence and most importantly DNA evidence which entirely refutes Young Earth Creationism ( or any other of those crackpot beliefs) and conclusively proves evolutionary theory. It also proves sociological evidence of socialisation into groups/tribes and self expression of ideas with the formation of art and later writing. Australian aboriginal art has been conclusively dated at 28,000 years old and is possibly up to 40,000 years old. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Australian_art#:~:text=Australian%20Aboriginal%20art%20is%20the%20oldest%20unbroken%20tradition,in%20south-western%20Arnhem%20Land%20in%20the%20Northern%20Territory. Rock art painting as a pre-cursor to writing, as a form of exterior self expression. Everybody intelligent knows according to the archeological evidence, man starting recording history around the time the alphabet and writing was invented. You picking on the dumbest of the dumb proves nothing as far as your desire to discredit religion.
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Post by goz on Sept 26, 2020 21:56:40 GMT
What does it matter if there is other evidence of human evolution? We have geological evidence and most importantly DNA evidence which entirely refutes Young Earth Creationism ( or any other of those crackpot beliefs) and conclusively proves evolutionary theory. It also proves sociological evidence of socialisation into groups/tribes and self expression of ideas with the formation of art and later writing. Australian aboriginal art has been conclusively dated at 28,000 years old and is possibly up to 40,000 years old. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Australian_art#:~:text=Australian%20Aboriginal%20art%20is%20the%20oldest%20unbroken%20tradition,in%20south-western%20Arnhem%20Land%20in%20the%20Northern%20Territory. Rock art painting as a pre-cursor to writing, as a form of exterior self expression. Everybody intelligent knows according to the archeological evidence, man starting recording history around the time the alphabet and writing was invented. You picking on the dumbest of the dumb proves nothing as far as your desire to discredit religion. This thread is not about me, it is about factual pre-history and sociological evolution. I was pointing this out to the OP. It would seem that it is you who are labelling him as the dumbest of the dumb, not me... for some reason. I guess everyone in America knows about Australian aboriginal art. So are you saying I needn't have bothered posting my link?
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Post by movieliker on Sept 26, 2020 22:07:49 GMT
Everybody intelligent knows according to the archeological evidence, man starting recording history around the time the alphabet and writing was invented. You picking on the dumbest of the dumb proves nothing as far as your desire to discredit religion. This thread is not about me, it is about factual pre-history and sociological evolution. I was pointing this out to the OP. It would seem that it is you who are labelling him as the dumbest of the dumb, not me... for some reason. I guess everyone in America knows about Australian aboriginal art. So are you saying I needn't have bothered posting my link? No. I and everybody else welcomes your insightful and informative posts. Maya excoriated me for posting "because there was no alphabet or writing before 3-4 thousand BC." The OP starts a fire and then never responds when posters reply to him. Bible thumpers believing literally in Creationism is a non factor. Most educated Christians, Muslims and Jews believe in science. This thread is stupid. It's gone on way too long. Seems like an obvious attempt to bait Creationists.
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Post by goz on Sept 26, 2020 22:39:09 GMT
This thread is not about me, it is about factual pre-history and sociological evolution. I was pointing this out to the OP. It would seem that it is you who are labelling him as the dumbest of the dumb, not me... for some reason. I guess everyone in America knows about Australian aboriginal art. So are you saying I needn't have bothered posting my link? No. I and everybody else welcomes your insightful and informative posts. Maya excoriated me for posting "because there was no alphabet or writing before 3-4 thousand BC." The OP starts a fire and then never responds when posters reply to him. Bible thumpers believing literally in Creationism is a non factor. Most educated Christians, Muslims and Jews believe in science. This thread is stupid. It's gone on way too long. Seems like an obvious attempt to bait Creationists.You think? That is really weird. It was my understanding that the OP was an obvious attempt to bait evolutionists, and when it went pear shaped he abandoned it. If you ask me, he deserves everything he gets, though he claims I am on 'ignore' it is one of those discretionary ignores. However as I said it is not about me. A claim was made and it has thoroughly been refuted.
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Sept 27, 2020 15:41:01 GMT
I find it odd how Evolutionists claim man has been evolving for millions of years and as modern humans we’ve been around for about 200,000 years. Yet there is no recorded history stretching further than 6000 years which coincidentally enough is how long many Christians believe the bible dates as the beginning of mankind. We have no writings, no battles, no wars, no countries, no carved stones, no nothing. If human evolution is true then surely it would be traceable far beyond 4000bc. Well.....if my theory about the Tower of Babel is correct.....there was no need for for it earlier. No need for a written language or a spoken language. Why no need for a spoken language? Was everyone using telekinesis before the tower fell?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 27, 2020 17:14:53 GMT
Well.....if my theory about the Tower of Babel is correct.....there was no need for for it earlier. No need for a written language or a spoken language. Why no need for a spoken language? Was everyone using telekinesis before the tower fell? Telepathy. Telekinesis is something different.
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on Sept 27, 2020 18:34:13 GMT
Why no need for a spoken language? Was everyone using telekinesis before the tower fell? Telepathy. Telekinesis is something different. Ah, you’re right. But now that you mention it, any possibility that they had telekinesis as well?
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Sept 27, 2020 18:47:15 GMT
Telepathy. Telekinesis is something different. Ah, you’re right. But now that you mention it, any possibility that they had telekinesis as well? Not that I've heard....but I have heard that weight could be cancelled out with sound resonation so that large blocks of stone could be floated in midair and placed wherever needed to construct pyramids and other megalithic structures.
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Post by drystyx on Sept 27, 2020 19:12:41 GMT
Ah, you’re right. But now that you mention it, any possibility that they had telekinesis as well? Not that I've heard....but I have heard that weight could be cancelled out with sound resonation so that large blocks of stone could be floated in midair and placed wherever needed to construct pyramids and other megalithic structures. I would say that there were natural explanations for the great prehistoric engineering feats that aren't adopted simply because we don't have real scientists any more. By that, I mean "objective" scientists who don't have agendas. This means, they only look for and only record that which they like to help people believe their theories. Leahy and others actually give this away in quotes about how they intended to "prove" something. Modern day alleged scientists hate to admit they don't know every single thing that ever happened. Oh, they might say that they don't know every single thing that ever happened, but they give themselves away when they rant and rave and claim to be gods who do know everything that ever happened. They seem to be oblivious to this. Those huge rocks and stones in the great prehistoric engineering feats probably arrived close to building sites by natural means, or an easy path was created by natural means. Earthquakes, floods, whatever. But because geologists, archaeologists, and other control freaks want to just believe what they want to believe, they only accept the words of people who say what they want to hear. I've actually seen this happen in local History and local news. It's too bad that the "academia" is composed of members who almost unanimously believe they are gods and can't confess in their own hearts that they won't know every single thing that ever happened in every part of the Universe. But then, it could be that there were different laws of Physics at one time. Science has only been studied by humans for a very short fraction of History
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