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Post by movieliker on Mar 11, 2019 21:22:22 GMT
Rovers have already found water and ice on Mars. It used to have water and an atmosphere. It is in the Goldilocks Zone of the Sun.
I think it just a matter of time. Maybe in the next 50 years?
What do you think?
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Post by Prime etc. on Mar 11, 2019 21:27:18 GMT
I think:
this is the plan. Get your ass to Mars, and go to the Hilton Hotel and flash the fake Brubaker I.D. at the front desk, that's all there is to it.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Mar 11, 2019 21:30:15 GMT
Within the next 50 years ? No
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Post by movieliker on Mar 11, 2019 21:33:14 GMT
I think: this is the plan. Get your ass to Mars, and go to the Hilton Hotel and flash the fake Brubaker I.D. at the front desk, that's all there is to it. There is no Hilton Hotel on Mars --- yet. |
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Post by movieliker on Mar 11, 2019 21:34:00 GMT
Within the next 50 years ? No Yeah, that was probably a bit too much optimism. |
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Post by Sandman on Mar 11, 2019 21:54:44 GMT
Within the next 50 years ? No Yeah, that was probably a bit too much optimism. Heck with so many nuclear bombs around the world we will be lucky if were still alive on earth let alone mars.
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Post by movieliker on Mar 11, 2019 21:58:50 GMT
Yeah, that was probably a bit too much optimism. Heck with so many nuclear bombs around the world we will be lucky if were still alive on earth let alone mars. That is extremely pessimistic. We have had nuclear weapons for 80 years. We are farther away from the possibility of nuclear war than ever before. Even when we colonize our solar system, there will still be the risk of catastrophe, devastation and extinction. It will always be a part of existence. |
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 12, 2019 2:43:32 GMT
I doubt it.
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Post by alpha128 on Mar 12, 2019 3:40:20 GMT
Something else. The big problem with terraforming Mars is that atmospheric pressure there is about 1% of what it is on Earth. The reason for that is, unlike Earth, Mars' iron core is no longer molten. That means, unlike Earth, Mars no longer has a protective magnetic field. Without a magnetic field, Mars atmosphere was stripped away by the solar wind as shown in this illustration.  NASA has suggested an artificial magnetosphere could be created with an artificial magnetic shield. So there are considerable technical challenges to overcome before terraforming Mars becomes a possibility. First you need a magnetic shield. Then you need to build up the atmosphere. Then you need to deal with the toxic perchlorates in the Martian soil. It's not impossible, but for all that to be solved in the next 50 years is doubtful. |
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Post by MCDemuth on Mar 12, 2019 4:45:03 GMT
I know that up until recently, there were many scientists coming up with various theories about how it could be done...
And then, just a few months ago, this little revelation came out:
I think that shot down half of those plans...
Now, I am not so sure if it can be done... But, If It can... I think it is going to take several hundred, if not thousands of years to be able to do it. (If Mankind is still around by then.)
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Post by Ass_E9 on Mar 12, 2019 4:50:46 GMT
If Mars doesn't consent, man will chloroform it.
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Post by movieliker on Mar 12, 2019 4:58:47 GMT
I know that up until recently, there were many scientists coming up with various theories about how it could be done... And then, just a few months ago, this little revelation came out: I think that shot down half of those plans... Now, I am not so sure if it can be done... But, If It can... I think it is going to take several hundred, if not thousands of years to be able to do it. ( If Mankind is still around by then.) We don't need to terraform Mars. Just colonize it and move on. There are many planets in our galaxy and in the Universe for us to move to. But if we are going anywhere, we have to learn how to colonize celestial bodies that can't be terraformed. |
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Post by kevin on Mar 12, 2019 9:30:34 GMT
Eventually, I think so. We'll definitely land on Mars within the next 50 years and maybe if Elon Musk pulls it off there will be a small colony over there. But (unfortunately) completely terraforming Mars to look like Earth will most likely take hundreds of years. Having a large colony on Mars seems more likely to me than terraforming the planet, at least for the 'near' future (next 100 years or so).
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Mar 12, 2019 15:34:42 GMT
Never happen
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Post by movieliker on Mar 12, 2019 15:36:09 GMT
I agree. Probably not worth the effort and expense. |
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Mar 12, 2019 15:55:51 GMT
I think terraforming is science fiction. A domed colony is far more feasible.
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Post by movieliker on Mar 12, 2019 16:00:33 GMT
I think terraforming is science fiction. A domed colony is far more feasible. I agree. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 12, 2019 17:43:13 GMT
Rovers have already found water and ice on Mars. It used to have water and an atmosphere. It is in the Goldilocks Zone of the Sun. I think it just a matter of time. Maybe in the next 50 years? What do you think? ^^^THIS^^^ Except that your estimation of how soon are too optimistic. I say several hundred years.
However that doesn't mean people wont live there beforehand. Colonizing a planet and terraforming are two different things.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 12, 2019 18:00:17 GMT
Yes. It will take many lives but I see it happening.
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Post by movieliker on Mar 12, 2019 18:05:38 GMT
Rovers have already found water and ice on Mars. It used to have water and an atmosphere. It is in the Goldilocks Zone of the Sun. I think it just a matter of time. Maybe in the next 50 years? What do you think? ^^^THIS^^^ Except that your estimation of how soon are too optimistic. I say several hundred years.
However that doesn't mean people wont live there beforehand. Colonizing a planet and terraforming are two different things.
I have changed my position since starting this thread. I now don't think humanity will ever terraform Mars. It is too expensive, labor intensive and unnecessary. Colonize yes. Terraform no. The magnetic core of Mars is too weak to sustain an atmosphere. Or protect Mars from solar winds. |
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