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Post by Aj_June on Mar 15, 2019 5:39:58 GMT
Really sad to happen to people of any community or country. A bit more surprising than usual because NZ is normally a very peaceful country. Thoughts go to the victims, their family members and friends.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 6:08:40 GMT
It's awful. I will go to Morning Mass today and say prayers for the victims and their loved ones, and that New Zealand finds the same strength to respond with love, not hate, as Manchester did đ
This is where the likes of Cody's hate preaching leads to.
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Post by phludowin on Mar 15, 2019 10:29:19 GMT
Sad. Wouldn't be surprised if the killers are theists.
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Post by CoolJGSâş on Mar 15, 2019 10:55:57 GMT
Sad. Wouldn't be surprised if the killers are theists. Yes, that would include a pretty big net of options I wouldn't be surprised if they were anything this side of a Kiwi bird doing it.
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Post by Cody⢠on Mar 15, 2019 11:23:26 GMT
Very tragic news.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 11:25:02 GMT
You've got some nerve. Hope this acts as a wake up call to you.
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Post by Arlon10 on Mar 15, 2019 11:33:34 GMT
Sad. Wouldn't be surprised if the killers are theists. What a great relief it must be to think atheists are never responsible for anything. Is that really true tough?
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Post by Aj_June on Mar 15, 2019 11:35:40 GMT
You've got some nerve. Hope this acts as a wake up call to you. With all due respect, he has always criticised any terrorist activity. While right-wing extremism can and does lead to such tragedies, it is not right to pinpoint any particular right-wing follower and definitely incorrect to incite anyone twice in a thread. We can discuss in a new topic how certain political ideology may contribute to terrorism.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 11:40:09 GMT
You've got some nerve. Hope this acts as a wake up call to you. With all due respect, he has always criticised any terrorist activity. While right-wing extremism can and does lead to such tragedies, it is not right to pinpoint any particular right-wing follower and definitely incorrect to incite anyone twice in a thread. We can discuss in a new topic how certain political ideology may contribute to terrorism. I disagree, the neo-nazi hatred and bile he spews out are a direct contributor to this kind of evil... He needs to be telt.
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Post by CoolJGSâş on Mar 15, 2019 11:42:09 GMT
You've got some nerve. Hope this acts as a wake up call to you. With all due respect, he has always criticised any terrorist activity. While right-wing extremism can and does lead to such tragedies, it is not right to pinpoint any particular right-wing follower and definitely incorrect to incite anyone twice in a thread. We can discuss in a new topic how certain political ideology may contribute to terrorism. I'm not sure why political ideology would not be the topic for this particular shooting. It's easy to condemn a terrorist attack. Is anyone NOT doing that. But the attitudes of anti-terrorists are pretty similar. The attacks aren't done in a vacuum as if people who hate Muslims, something many people here certainly appear guilty of, but wouldn't be terrorists don;t somehow belong to a similar mindset who escalate it to violence. After all, many people would be OK with kids dying, people starving, or ones being persecuted in sucky regimes at the border. There are two threads saying Muslims cannot integrate for crying out loud. So then what do you do with them? The mindset is to get rid of them which is dangerous whether by murder or not.
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Post by Aj_June on Mar 15, 2019 11:44:14 GMT
With all due respect, he has always criticised any terrorist activity. While right-wing extremism can and does lead to such tragedies, it is not right to pinpoint any particular right-wing follower and definitely incorrect to incite anyone twice in a thread. We can discuss in a new topic how certain political ideology may contribute to terrorism. I disagree, the neo-nazi hatred and bile he spews out are a direct contributor to this kind of evil... He needs to be telt. It's not a proper way to adress any issue. All kinds of ideologies have negative and positives. Cody hasn't identified himself as Neo-Nazi but only as a conservative. In any case, this is a tragedy that has just happened. It is time to strive for peace than get into fights regarding you did it no you did it. This is all I have to say.
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Post by Cody⢠on Mar 15, 2019 11:47:28 GMT
You've got some nerve. Hope this acts as a wake up call to you. With all due respect, he has always criticised any terrorist activity. While right-wing extremism can and does lead to such tragedies, it is not right to pinpoint any particular right-wing follower and definitely incorrect to incite anyone twice in a thread. We can discuss in a new topic how certain political ideology may contribute to terrorism. With all due respect, he has always criticised any terrorist activity. While right-wing extremism can and does lead to such tragedies, it is not right to pinpoint any particular right-wing follower and definitely incorrect to incite anyone twice in a thread. We can discuss in a new topic how certain political ideology may contribute to terrorism. I disagree, the neo-nazi hatred and bile he spews out are a direct contributor to this kind of evil... He needs to be telt. Give me some examples where Iâve supposedly âspewed neo-nazi hatredâ, please.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2019 11:48:58 GMT
With all due respect, he has always criticised any terrorist activity. While right-wing extremism can and does lead to such tragedies, it is not right to pinpoint any particular right-wing follower and definitely incorrect to incite anyone twice in a thread. We can discuss in a new topic how certain political ideology may contribute to terrorism. I disagree, the neo-nazi hatred and bile he spews out are a direct contributor to this kind of evil... He needs to be telt. Give me some examples where Iâve supposedly âspewed neo-nazi hatredâ, please. I'm no in the mood to talk with you today... You give me the boak.
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Post by Aj_June on Mar 15, 2019 11:49:22 GMT
With all due respect, he has always criticised any terrorist activity. While right-wing extremism can and does lead to such tragedies, it is not right to pinpoint any particular right-wing follower and definitely incorrect to incite anyone twice in a thread. We can discuss in a new topic how certain political ideology may contribute to terrorism. I'm not sure why political ideology would not be the topic for this particular shooting. It's easy to condemn a terrorist attack. Is anyone NOT doing that. But the attitudes of anti-terrorists are pretty similar. The attacks aren't done in a vacuum as if people who hate Muslims, something many people here certainly appear guilty of, but wouldn't be terrorists don;t somehow belong to a similar mindset who escalate it to violence. After all, many people would be OK with kids dying, people starving, or ones being persecuted in sucky regimes at the border. There are two threads saying Muslims cannot integrate for crying out loud. So then what do you do with them? The mindset is to get rid of them which is dangerous whether by murder or not. I am saying that there is a proper way to address any issue. Of course ideologies do lead to extremism but what I am saying is that such topics should be discussed on a broader level and not on a personal level (citing xyz member is also responsible). That won't help. There are better and more mature ways to try to convince even XYZ members that certain ideologies may be leading to certain violence.
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Post by Cody⢠on Mar 15, 2019 11:52:24 GMT
With all due respect, he has always criticised any terrorist activity. While right-wing extremism can and does lead to such tragedies, it is not right to pinpoint any particular right-wing follower and definitely incorrect to incite anyone twice in a thread. We can discuss in a new topic how certain political ideology may contribute to terrorism. I'm not sure why political ideology would not be the topic for this particular shooting. It's easy to condemn a terrorist attack. Is anyone NOT doing that. But the attitudes of anti-terrorists are pretty similar. The attacks aren't done in a vacuum as if people who hate Muslims, something many people here certainly appear guilty of, but wouldn't be terrorists don;t somehow belong to a similar mindset who escalate it to violence. After all, many people would be OK with kids dying, people starving, or ones being persecuted in sucky regimes at the border. There are two threads saying Muslims cannot integrate for crying out loud. So then what do you do with them? The mindset is to get rid of them which is dangerous whether by murder or not. No the thread does not say âMuslims cannot integrateâ, the professor argues that âMuslims are more difficult to integrate than other immigrant groupsâ, and backs this up with facts and data. Why do you liberals insist on mischaracterising other peopleâs arguments that you feel may contradict your worldview?
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Post by Cody⢠on Mar 15, 2019 11:57:27 GMT
Give me some examples where Iâve supposedly âspewed neo-nazi hatredâ, please. I'm no in the mood to talk with you today... You give me the boak. Donât be making those kind of allegations and then evade trying to substantiate them you weasel. Either back up your claim or apologise.
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Post by faustus5 on Mar 15, 2019 12:05:58 GMT
And worthless pieces of human garbage like you are part of the problem. You can condemn acts of terror all you want, but every time you post Islamophobic bullshit and spread Islamophobic ideas, you are making a contribution to the culture which makes acts like this possible.
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Post by Cody⢠on Mar 15, 2019 12:19:28 GMT
And worthless pieces of human garbage like you are part of the problem. You can condemn acts of terror all you want, but every time you post Islamophobic bullshit and spread Islamophobic ideas, you are making a contribution to the culture which makes acts like this possible. Itâs funny how we never hear deranged leftists like yourself moan about the doctrines within the Islamic religion which is the direct cause contributing to the culture which is making Islamic terrorist acts a daily worldwide occurance killing literally thousands of innocent people each year. And what exaclty is this islamophobic bullshit that I post? Criticising dangerous and barbaric doctrines which negatively effect the lives of millions of people? PC wankers like you can disingenuously call that islamophobic all you like. I will call it what it actually is. Critical thinking.
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Post by faustus5 on Mar 15, 2019 12:23:16 GMT
Itâs funny how we never hear deranged leftists like yourself moan about the doctrines within the Islamic religion which is the direct cause contributing to the culture which is making Islamic terrorist acts a daily worldwide occurance killing literally thousands of innocent people each year. Terrorist attacks from pieces of shit who are ideologically just like you are a far, far bigger problem in the West. Muslims mostly kill each other in Muslim dominated countries, ironically because they think just like you, only within a different religion. You are the problem. Your culture and way of thinking is what needs to be wiped off the face of the earth.
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Post by Cody⢠on Mar 15, 2019 12:35:05 GMT
Itâs funny how we never hear deranged leftists like yourself moan about the doctrines within the Islamic religion which is the direct cause contributing to the culture which is making Islamic terrorist acts a daily worldwide occurance killing literally thousands of innocent people each year. Terrorist attacks from pieces of shit who are ideologically just like you are a far, far bigger problem in the West. Muslims mostly kill each other in Muslim dominated countries, ironically because they think just like you, only within a different religion. You are the problem. Your culture and way of thinking is what needs to be wiped off the face of the earth. So now that you have basically confirmed you have no idea what youâre talking about other than spewing your usual emotional lefist bs that youâve been programmed to by the liberal state. Youâre dismissed.
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