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Post by goz on Mar 19, 2019 21:25:51 GMT
How can you possibly profess to be a follower of Christ and such a hypocritical bigoted turd at the same time? Has it professed to be a follower of Christ 🤔 Fucking unbelievable if it has. He is allegedly ( as far as professions on the internet go ) to be a far right wing Christian, probably a Creationist judging by his posting on the age of the earth, and he is a loud, proud and avowed Islamophobe. He apparently thinks 'liberals' are brainwashed by somebody though recently avowed that he was neither left not right wing...somewhere in the middle. He is IMHO a nasty, dangerous and delusional piece of human excrement...a right wing Fascist hiding behind the hypocrisy of his religious views.
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Post by gadreel on Mar 19, 2019 23:40:28 GMT
You need to understand the paradox of tolerance of intolerance. Condemnation IS hate, we must HATE the intolerant, we must excise them from our society, the paradox is that we must be 100% intolerant of intolerance to have a tolerant society. yes that era was an extremely tumultuous time, borne out of condemning attitudes, exactly what is happening now, if no one stands up and is intolerant of intolerance then it will happen again. WE MUST RESIST INTOLERANCE WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE. Just to be clear, yes education and compassion are preferred, but at the point (or slightly before) someone opens up on a minority group because of their racism they must be eradicated from our society with force if required. Again I am surprised that you are so militant. I can understand the shock however of what has happened in your country. The problem is, however, that the intolerants feel exactly the same way! it is nothing to do with shock, I have felt this way for a long time. Tell me, when the Nazis were invading countries and putting people to death for their race and beliefs, did you think it was overly militant to go to war with them?
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Post by goz on Mar 20, 2019 0:12:19 GMT
Again I am surprised that you are so militant. I can understand the shock however of what has happened in your country. The problem is, however, that the intolerants feel exactly the same way! it is nothing to do with shock, I have felt this way for a long time. Tell me, when the Nazis were invading countries and putting people to death for their race and beliefs, did you think it was overly militant to go to war with them? Since I wasn't alive at the time, I cannot speculate on how I would have felt. With hindsight it became necessary to go to war against Fascism and I am glad it turned out the way it did. It is all a matter of scale, and the difference between a focussed threat ( like Hitler and Germany under his influence at the time ) and the danger of attacking splinter groups ( which should be identified,) however NOT tarring everyone with the same brush. The main difference in the modern current example is that there are extremist and terrorists of both ( left and right wing) extremes. You seem to be wanting to exclude one at the expense of the other whereas I would wish to end ALL extremism by peaceful and clever means, such as the sophisticated use of technology and security means to identify them, social media platforms shutting down ALL extremism and most importantly cutting off their source of criminal funding. Edit: I forgot the tightening of gun laws worldwide to cut down the chances of the extremists access to the type of weapons used in such attacks. It is my belief that the gunman/perpetrator went to New Zealand because of the relatively more lax gun laws. It was MORE DIFFICULT ( not impossible admittedly) for him to get the required type of weapons for his purpose in Australia so he went to where he could do so without much difficulty.
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Post by gadreel on Mar 20, 2019 22:21:24 GMT
it is nothing to do with shock, I have felt this way for a long time. Tell me, when the Nazis were invading countries and putting people to death for their race and beliefs, did you think it was overly militant to go to war with them? Since I wasn't alive at the time, I cannot speculate on how I would have felt. With hindsight it became necessary to go to war against Fascism and I am glad it turned out the way it did. It is all a matter of scale, and the difference between a focussed threat ( like Hitler and Germany under his influence at the time ) and the danger of attacking splinter groups ( which should be identified,) however NOT tarring everyone with the same brush. The main difference in the modern current example is that there are extremist and terrorists of both ( left and right wing) extremes. You seem to be wanting to exclude one at the expense of the other whereas I would wish to end ALL extremism by peaceful and clever means, such as the sophisticated use of technology and security means to identify them, social media platforms shutting down ALL extremism and most importantly cutting off their source of criminal funding. Edit: I forgot the tightening of gun laws worldwide to cut down the chances of the extremists access to the type of weapons used in such attacks. It is my belief that the gunman/perpetrator went to New Zealand because of the relatively more lax gun laws. It was MORE DIFFICULT ( not impossible admittedly) for him to get the required type of weapons for his purpose in Australia so he went to where he could do so without much difficulty. Yes I want to exclude white supremacists at the 'expense' of peace and harmony.
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Post by Cinemachinery on Mar 20, 2019 22:30:32 GMT
I was just chatting with Bazerov the other day. (Remember him?) He was quite depressed about it. Pissed at everyone trying to find and share the video.
He seemed pretty happy with their PM's response to the situation, though. NZ is getting shit done.
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Post by gadreel on Mar 20, 2019 22:42:42 GMT
I was just chatting with Bazerov the other day. (Remember him?) He was quite depressed about it. Pissed at everyone trying to find and share the video. He seemed pretty happy with their PM's response to the situation, though. NZ is getting shit done. Yeah Jacinda has done really well with this, with any luck it will get her another term
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