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Post by permutojoe on Mar 17, 2019 22:06:27 GMT
I’d want men to be more honest. Just be straight up about who you are and what you want. Neither side does that.
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Post by CynicalDreamer2 on Mar 17, 2019 23:10:12 GMT
I’d want men to be more honest. Just be straight up about who you are and what you want. Neither side does that. Agreed, but since the question was about the opposite sex that’s how I answered although I do think men are more guilty of that behavior than women. Women have trifling deceptive behavior too, not denying that at all. |
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Post by permutojoe on Mar 17, 2019 23:18:42 GMT
Agreed, but since the question was about the opposite sex that’s how I answered although I do think men are more guilty of that behavior than women. Women have trifling deceptive behavior too, not denying that at all. True. It's hard if not impossible to just "be honest about what you want" though. Not many women would be on board with what every man actually wants.
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Post by CynicalDreamer2 on Mar 17, 2019 23:35:59 GMT
Agreed, but since the question was about the opposite sex that’s how I answered although I do think men are more guilty of that behavior than women. Women have trifling deceptive behavior too, not denying that at all. True. It's hard if not impossible to just "be honest about what you want" though. Not many women would be on board with what every man actually wants. True, but why make that someone else’s problem and potential misery? It’s not fair to the other party. For instance, if you don’t want a relationship it’s best to say so. More than likely a foolish woman will tell herself that will change and stick around so you’re getting what you want via honesty. |
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Post by permutojoe on Mar 18, 2019 2:27:46 GMT
True. It's hard if not impossible to just "be honest about what you want" though. Not many women would be on board with what every man actually wants. True, but why make that someone else’s problem and potential misery? It’s not fair to the other party. For instance, if you don’t want a relationship it’s best to say so. More than likely a foolish woman will tell herself that will change and stick around so you’re getting what you want via honesty. IDK about the foolish woman theory. It's not uncommon to hear "just be honest" but there are enough mixed emotions and preferences in any given person that are constantly fluctuating in real time that it would be pretty counterproductive to try to be open about all of it.
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 18, 2019 6:35:51 GMT
Me and every other woman who’s been lied to. Look, I have a bunch of male uncles, cousins, friends and I know the game. I didn’t pull that comment out of my bum nor am I some man hater. I'll elaborate, and wish that men were more genuinely communicative. But, I've been out of the game for a long time, now, and I am just fine with friends who have common interests. I have been told that I am too honest. People want to know what is in my head and then I tell them, then they wish they didn't ask. I avoid the whole situation by not dating.
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 18, 2019 6:41:08 GMT
I don't think I would change anything about women tbh.
I was going to make a bad joke, but I won't go there.
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Post by movieliker on Mar 18, 2019 8:11:40 GMT
I'll elaborate, and wish that men were more genuinely communicative. But, I've been out of the game for a long time, now, and I am just fine with friends who have common interests. I have been told that I am too honest. People want to know what is in my head and then I tell them, then they wish they didn't ask. I avoid the whole situation by not dating. The only time I don't date is when I have no money. If people don't like what you have to say, fuck'em. Keep dating. And keep speaking your mind. Just don't be unnecessarily offensive or insulting. Otherwise, keep speaking your mind. |
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Post by moviemouth on Mar 18, 2019 8:16:22 GMT
I have been told that I am too honest. People want to know what is in my head and then I tell them, then they wish they didn't ask. I avoid the whole situation by not dating. The only time I don't date is when I have no money. If people don't like what you have to say, fuck'em. Keep dating. And keep speaking your mind. Just don't be unnecessarily offensive or insulting. Otherwise, keep speaking your mind. There are more reasons I don't date than just that. I dated a wonderful woman for 10 years and I ended it because I just don't have interest in relationships anymore. We are still close friends though.
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Post by movieliker on Mar 18, 2019 8:19:22 GMT
The only time I don't date is when I have no money. If people don't like what you have to say, fuck'em. Keep dating. And keep speaking your mind. Just don't be unnecessarily offensive or insulting. Otherwise, keep speaking your mind. There are more reasons I don't date than just that. I dated a wonderful woman for 10 years and I ended it because I just don't have interest in relationships anymore. We are still close friends though. Well, as long as you are happy. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 18, 2019 14:17:37 GMT
.........members of the opposite sex, what would it be ??  SAVE FERRIS I would make it so that women had the same exact sex drive that men have. We'd ALL be so happy! So many people would get laid! I honestly think the worlds problems would be solved overnight!
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 18, 2019 14:31:49 GMT
I’d want men to be more honest. Just be straight up about who you are and what you want. Women first, huh?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 18, 2019 14:35:46 GMT
Me and every other woman who’s been lied to. Look, I have a bunch of male uncles, cousins, friends and I know the game. I didn’t pull that comment out of my bum nor am I some man hater. Let me throw one back atcha...
Me and every other man who’s been lied to. Look, I have a bunch of female aunts, cousins, friends and I know the game. I didn’t pull that comment out of my bum nor am I some woman hater.
See? Same shit. For every woman I hear from "I been lied to and cheated on" I can throw it right back on them. It's been my personal experience that Women lie and cheat JUST AS MUCH. You want me to tell you stories? I can.
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Post by movieliker on Mar 18, 2019 14:46:48 GMT
Sometimes with these stereotypes I wonder if I ought to do a genitalia check because I match what's expected of men much more. Well I didn't meant it to the extreme but in the approach.
I got 2 examples from the top of my mind.
1. A few years ago, my ex and I were at a friend's house for supper. They (the hosts) had 2 other couples over. Now, I wish had pictures and a legal document (deed is the word?) to prove it but the hosts, my ex and I are are french, caucasian, canadians. The other couples were Rwandese (they both survived the genocide but met here in Canada) and Chinese. So we had a few different backgrounds. At one point, the hostess talked about her baby girl and the fact she had issues breast feeding her. She felt some pain in her breasts and there was some "blockage" in one. Now the stereotypes comes in, has the guys pretty much all said that going to the hospital was the thing to do, like as soon as possible while the women insisted more on the support and I swear, the fact it was what was needed the most. Both sexes acknowledged the other's vision but stood their ground on what was the thing to do. Sure we didn't have the whole spectrum represented there and one example doesn't make a statistic but we had people from different backgrounds, who didn't all grew up in Canada yet all the women instinctively had the same reaction while all the men instinctively had another.
2. I work in a government run long-term care and nursing home. A few weeks ago, my coworker got a call from the nurse of the 7th floor saying a patient tried to take the carafe from the silex coffee maker but dropped it. It shattered on the floor. They had the spill cleaned up but they needed a new carafe. Since I was talking with the guy from the inventory and supplies and needed to go to the upper floors for some repairs (I'm on the maintenance team) and I told him I could deliver it. Since the carafe that are usually used are in glass and now it was known some patients could try to pick them, my coworker from the supplies decided to pick and send one in metal. It does fit the machine, has a slightly bigger capacity, the handle is just as ergonomic and it doesn't weight that much more. The other upside is it won't break if it is dropped on the floor. There might still be a spill but it won't break. So I get to the 7th floor, I go to the small kitchen they had and deliver it to the nurse. The moment she saw it, she said "Don't you have any other?" I was puzzled, since it fitted the machine (as I demonstrated) and it was damage resistant, on top of other characteristics listed above. " I don't like it. Don't you have any in glass?". Sure but they will break if dropped. There is no gain from those over the metal one I brought. If you wonder they make the teas and hot water individually, using the little "nozzle" on the machine. The carafe only holds coffee. Yet I heard the "I can't see what's in it!" Then a orderly (those who wash and help the patients) came in and she sided with the nurse. So after a few minutes of arguing back and forth, the only argument I couldn't "beat" with empirical demonstration was the " I don't like it". They stuck with it and wouldn't move, kinda ganged up on me with that. So, facing some serious resistance I told them I would have another, glass one, delivered and they got it.
I don't understand. So in example one, the women thought "emotional" support was all that was needed? Like, "Oh sweetheart, I understand. That must be so difficult to have to deal with." But the men were just like, "Just go to the doctor and get it checked out. Let's talk about something else." ?? ?? ?? In example two, I think the "customer" is always right. I know technically those staffers were not customers. But unless your department had authority over them, they should get what they want. Even if you know better. |
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Post by CynicalDreamer2 on Mar 18, 2019 23:27:21 GMT
Me and every other woman who’s been lied to. Look, I have a bunch of male uncles, cousins, friends and I know the game. I didn’t pull that comment out of my bum nor am I some man hater. Let me throw one back atcha...
Me and every other man who’s been lied to. Look, I have a bunch of female aunts, cousins, friends and I know the game. I didn’t pull that comment out of my bum nor am I some woman hater.
See? Same shit. For every woman I hear from "I been lied to and cheated on" I can throw it right back on them. It's been my personal experience that Women lie and cheat JUST AS MUCH. You want me to tell you stories? I can.
Uh, I’m a woman and fully aware how trifling we can be. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 19, 2019 17:37:16 GMT
Let me throw one back atcha...
Me and every other man who’s been lied to. Look, I have a bunch of female aunts, cousins, friends and I know the game. I didn’t pull that comment out of my bum nor am I some woman hater.
See? Same shit. For every woman I hear from "I been lied to and cheated on" I can throw it right back on them. It's been my personal experience that Women lie and cheat JUST AS MUCH. You want me to tell you stories? I can.
Uh, I’m a woman and fully aware how trifling we can be. Much love to you. But whenever I hear this argument from women it's usually VERY one sided. Which comes off as very BS to me who's heart has been broken by cheating, game playing bitches quite often. On the other hand I admit to having broken a heart or two myself. I guess neither side has a monopoly when it comes to playing games.
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Post by CynicalDreamer2 on Mar 19, 2019 23:04:15 GMT
Uh, I’m a woman and fully aware how trifling we can be. Much love to you. But whenever I hear this argument from women it's usually VERY one sided. Which comes off as very BS to me who's heart has been broken by cheating, game playing bitches quite often. On the other hand I admit to having broken a heart or two myself. I guess neither side has a monopoly when it comes to playing games. Oh I’m much harder on women than men we can be scandalous creatures which is why I keep my circle pretty tight. To your point, neither sex is above the games but we play it differently. |
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Mar 19, 2019 23:13:36 GMT
Much love to you. But whenever I hear this argument from women it's usually VERY one sided. Which comes off as very BS to me who's heart has been broken by cheating, game playing bitches quite often. On the other hand I admit to having broken a heart or two myself. I guess neither side has a monopoly when it comes to playing games. Oh I’m much harder on women than men we can be scandalous creatures which is why I keep my circle pretty tight. To your point, neither sex is above the games but we play it differently. Now that I agree with.
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