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Post by charzhino on Mar 18, 2019 22:40:04 GMT
I keep seeing this on a lot of peoples reviews everywhere. The montage near the end where young Carol is getting up after being knocked down over and over before she goes supernova. People saying how it gave themselves goosebumps and tingles and reduced some to tears of joy. Is it just me or was that montage very underwhelming. Certainly dont think it gives the impact it should, rather feels too try hard to make us "believe" and comes off derivative. Can someone who experienced intense joy at that climax please explain whats so good about it? Are people just projecting what they think they should feel
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Post by havenless on Mar 18, 2019 22:46:14 GMT
I keep seeing this on a lot of peoples reviews everywhere. The montage near the end where young Carol is getting up after being knocked down over and over before she goes supernova. People saying how it gave themselves goosebumps and tingles and reduced some to tears of joy. Is it just me or was that montage very underwhelming. Certainly dont think it gives the impact it should, rather feels too try hard to make us "believe" and comes off derivative. Can someone who experienced intense joy at that climax please explain whats so good about it? Are people just projecting what they think they should feel It would have been better if it wasn’t spoiled in trailers, but I can see why people liked it
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Post by Vassaggo on Mar 18, 2019 23:00:05 GMT
The way my sis-in-law described it was it made her think of all the times she was told no or denied something and overcoming it. Not all because she was a female, but some. (told she couldn't play little league and she could only try out for softball. Then being asked her second year to play little league after 2nd year coach saw her hit was the major female one). She said it was like all those times condensed into a montage.
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Post by hobowar on Mar 18, 2019 23:11:13 GMT
I keep seeing this on a lot of peoples reviews everywhere. The montage near the end where young Carol is getting up after being knocked down over and over before she goes supernova. People saying how it gave themselves goosebumps and tingles and reduced some to tears of joy. Is it just me or was that montage very underwhelming. Certainly dont think it gives the impact it should, rather feels too try hard to make us "believe" and comes off derivative. Can someone who experienced intense joy at that climax please explain whats so good about it? Are people just projecting what they think they should feel I honestly think there's no greater endorsement for that scene than you not liking it.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 18, 2019 23:37:04 GMT
It's definitely one of those moments that must play better for women than it does for men. I agree with char in that while it isn't bad, it just doesn't have the impact without more context regarding her life and struggles. But for women it seems like a metaphor for the struggle for equality. The world keeps telling you no, and you keep plugging away anyway. I've seen the movie twice, both times with women and they seem to love this film much more than I did. (And I was the only comic book fan present.)
It's like the scenes with Monica, particularly the one where Carol is choosing new colors. It's pretty hokey to a guy like me, but imagine how it must feel to watch that scene as a 10 year old girl. A legit female superhero and her little girl sidekick. You could criticize the creative thinking behind that, say it's pandering or whatever; but all this comic book stuff is pandering to a certain extent, so if that isn't my particular geek-out moment I can still be glad it's somebody else's.
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Post by Vegas on Mar 19, 2019 2:51:06 GMT
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Post by darkpast on Mar 19, 2019 2:58:46 GMT
it would have been more powerful if they developed the chracter Carol better, her whole backstory was rushed over in choppy flashbacks. But i had enough of boring origin movies so i was ok they fast forwared though a bit.
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Post by Marendil on Mar 19, 2019 3:44:02 GMT
I liked this, it did give me a little thrill chill.
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Post by DC-Fan on Mar 19, 2019 3:59:36 GMT
I keep seeing this on a lot of peoples reviews everywhere. The montage near the end where young Carol is getting up after being knocked down over and over before she goes supernova. People saying how it gave themselves goosebumps and tingles and reduced some to tears of joy. Is it just me or was that montage very underwhelming. Certainly dont think it gives the impact it should, rather feels too try hard to make us "believe" and comes off derivative. Can someone who experienced intense joy at that climax please explain whats so good about it? Are people just projecting what they think they should feel It was underwhelming. The whole movie was underwhelming.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Mar 19, 2019 4:23:00 GMT
Felt like lip service to feminism. Just to remain you that she was a woman.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Mar 19, 2019 4:45:26 GMT
This video sums up the problem.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 4:57:58 GMT
Felt like lip service to feminism. Just to remain you that she was a woman. In case I forgot an hour and a half into it.
The point is taken though because they overplayed her getting up in the ads. Really mastered the art of standing up.
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Post by charzhino on Mar 19, 2019 10:19:47 GMT
It's definitely one of those moments that must play better for women than it does for men. I agree with char in that while it isn't bad, it just doesn't have the impact without more context regarding her life and struggles. But for women it seems like a metaphor for the struggle for equality. The world keeps telling you no, and you keep plugging away anyway. I've seen the movie twice, both times with women and they seem to love this film much more than I did. (And I was the only comic book fan present.) It's like the scenes with Monica, particularly the one where Carol is choosing new colors. It's pretty hokey to a guy like me, but imagine how it must feel to watch that scene as a 10 year old girl. A legit female superhero and her little girl sidekick. You could criticize the creative thinking behind that, say it's pandering or whatever; but all this comic book stuff is pandering to a certain extent, so if that isn't my particular geek-out moment I can still be glad it's somebody else's. For girls it must be a different experience yes. But thats why I suggested they are possibly projecting what they *think* they should be feeling rather than how its actually being played out onscreen. As high on ecstacy/darkpast say,the story arc of Carol leading up to that point is fragmented and that montage isnt really earned in the context of her character in the same way a Rocky montage is where there is a wealth of character buildup and backstory to support the payoff.
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Post by charzhino on Mar 19, 2019 10:22:09 GMT
I keep seeing this on a lot of peoples reviews everywhere. The montage near the end where young Carol is getting up after being knocked down over and over before she goes supernova. People saying how it gave themselves goosebumps and tingles and reduced some to tears of joy. Is it just me or was that montage very underwhelming. Certainly dont think it gives the impact it should, rather feels too try hard to make us "believe" and comes off derivative. Can someone who experienced intense joy at that climax please explain whats so good about it? Are people just projecting what they think they should feel I honestly think there's no greater endorsement for that scene than you not liking it.
I welcome that, coming from you, who thinks black panther is the greatest movie of all time and ultron is the greatest villain ever
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Mar 19, 2019 11:54:09 GMT
It's definitely one of those moments that must play better for women than it does for men. I agree with char in that while it isn't bad, it just doesn't have the impact without more context regarding her life and struggles. But for women it seems like a metaphor for the struggle for equality. The world keeps telling you no, and you keep plugging away anyway. I've seen the movie twice, both times with women and they seem to love this film much more than I did. (And I was the only comic book fan present.) It's like the scenes with Monica, particularly the one where Carol is choosing new colors. It's pretty hokey to a guy like me, but imagine how it must feel to watch that scene as a 10 year old girl. A legit female superhero and her little girl sidekick. You could criticize the creative thinking behind that, say it's pandering or whatever; but all this comic book stuff is pandering to a certain extent, so if that isn't my particular geek-out moment I can still be glad it's somebody else's. For girls it must be a different experience yes. But thats why I suggested they are possibly projecting what they *think* they should be feeling rather than how its actually being played out onscreen. As high on ecstacy/darkpast say,the story arc of Carol leading up to that point is fragmented and that montage isnt really earned in the context of her character in the same way a Rocky montage is where there is a wealth of character buildup and backstory to support the payoff. It's possible. I guess as guys we'll never know. All I can say for certain is that it didn't feel earned to me. If they had even spent one full scene with her childhood or her dynamic with her parents I would've gotten more out of it. It's a shame because that's the kind of movie it should've been, especially if you're going to market her as the new face of the MCU.
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Post by Archelaus on Mar 19, 2019 21:52:53 GMT
It had no impact on me because I didn't feel they developed Carol's character that much and too much of her backstory was told in fragmented flashbacks. It also felt like a sports commercial to me.
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Post by hobowar on Mar 19, 2019 23:16:28 GMT
I honestly think there's no greater endorsement for that scene than you not liking it.
I welcome that, coming from you, who thinks black panther is the greatest movie of all time and ultron is the greatest villain ever
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2019 23:39:57 GMT
Did anyone else notice that they cut the shot of her in uniform standing up in an auditorium from a row full of soldiers?
I thought that was a badass shot in the ads. Maybe it was deemed too political?
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Mar 20, 2019 1:05:55 GMT
Did anyone else notice that they cut the shot of her in uniform standing up in an auditorium from a row full of soldiers? I thought that was a badass shot in the ads. Maybe it was deemed too political? I think there was a whole subplot edited out.
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Post by remusgrey on Mar 20, 2019 12:57:15 GMT
I keep seeing this on a lot of peoples reviews everywhere. The montage near the end where young Carol is getting up after being knocked down over and over before she goes supernova. People saying how it gave themselves goosebumps and tingles and reduced some to tears of joy. Is it just me or was that montage very underwhelming. Certainly dont think it gives the impact it should, rather feels too try hard to make us "believe" and comes off derivative. Can someone who experienced intense joy at that climax please explain whats so good about it? Are people just projecting what they think they should feel Had no idea it actually did that to audiences. Because it definitely didn't for me. I felt that it was a bit too cliche already.
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