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Post by egon1982 on May 21, 2019 10:36:51 GMT
My favorite movie of the year! delivered action, thrills and all that and this is a quality new franchise as we do need new franchises and new cinematic icons as JW is a new action icon who is on par with John Rambo, John McClane, Tequilla from Hard Boiled, Martin Riggs and more.
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Post by politicidal on May 21, 2019 16:13:51 GMT
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 21, 2019 19:45:46 GMT
Nice. I was kind of down on this one until I listened to a podcast interview with the director. Some of what I consider weaknesses of the film are actually strengths in retrospect. He admitted he writes down ideas for action sequences and figures out how to get them into films, he doesn't care as much about story. Considering the Wick series is as good as it is, that's pretty impressive. It could be an incoherent mess.
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Post by politicidal on May 22, 2019 2:47:45 GMT
8/10. Best action in the entire series. Excellent sense of pacing despite running over 2 hours;really flew by. Great villain boss fight at the end. Keanu Reeves good as always. Returning cast is fun;Halle Berry really not in it much but those dogs of hers were badasses. But also perhaps the sloppiest plot of the three thus far. Didn't ruin my enjoyment but I guess I'll have to wait for Chapter 4 for a proper finale. Also, Jason Mantzoukas wasn't used anywhere as much as I hoped. That was disappointing.
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Post by twothousandonemark on May 23, 2019 6:08:16 GMT
B++- As others have mentioned, while the story already feels thinning, the showmanship of the JW universe is still aces. I actually caught myself thinking during the museum(?) knife battle just how much work they all put into just to impress the audience, which I'm a part of. JW is a modern day circus & it's f'n grand how much passion they put into wanting to show us something new around every corner. The library fight, John weaponizing a book was f'n awesome . That sequence was a keeper. - I liked the villains, nothing new there. Sure the blade master guy was a bit cheeky, so what, it's better than robotic idiots who are begging to be offed. -- John Wick is now in my top 50, yet it's the sequels which have him more as prey which steals some of his character's legendary mysticism. JW as mythical alpha predator is the raw core of his appeal for me, & now it's 2 films where he's offing ppl who are in his way of something, rather than the first film where he wants to deliver consequence for his wife & dog's deaths. - I too wished there was more bookended feel to this one. JW2 even concluded as much in NYC that it was about to be a fighting journey to end all fights. At least kill Winston & Bowery King, instead those 2 actually seem weaker going forward, having settled due to consequence . I feel like the 4th needs to be a reset from this domino effect of the first film's plot. Be more standalone in nature, maybe set it 5yrs ahead for fresher storytelling. - The lead villain, The Adjudicator, felt way too fish out of water, robotic to the nth. She just plain talked too much. I kept hoping she'd be pushed off a rooftop or something. 3rd best in the series for me, the first easily the best.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2019 14:35:00 GMT
B++- As others have mentioned, while the story already feels thinning, the showmanship of the JW universe is still aces. I actually caught myself thinking during the museum(?) knife battle just how much work they all put into just to impress the audience, which I'm a part of. JW is a modern day circus & it's f'n grand how much passion they put into wanting to show us something new around every corner. The library fight, John weaponizing a book was f'n awesome . That sequence was a keeper. - I liked the villains, nothing new there. Sure the blade master guy was a bit cheeky, so what, it's better than robotic idiots who are begging to be offed. -- John Wick is now in my top 50, yet it's the sequels which have him more as prey which steals some of his character's legendary mysticism. JW as mythical alpha predator is the raw core of his appeal for me, & now it's 2 films where he's offing ppl who are in his way of something, rather than the first film where he wants to deliver consequence for his wife & dog's deaths. - I too wished there was more bookended feel to this one. JW2 even concluded as much in NYC that it was about to be a fighting journey to end all fights. At least kill Winston & Bowery King, instead those 2 actually seem weaker going forward, having settled due to consequence . I feel like the 4th needs to be a reset from this domino effect of the first film's plot. Be more standalone in nature, maybe set it 5yrs ahead for fresher storytelling. - The lead villain, The Adjudicator, felt way too fish out of water, robotic to the nth. She just plain talked too much. I kept hoping she'd be pushed off a rooftop or something. 3rd best in the series for me, the first easily the best. ITA with most of this. I'm glad the Bowery King lived. Laurence Fishburn is great in the role,and I want to see his revenge. I was actually hoping the Chinese blade master would live and end up joining JW as an ally in the next film. I am looking forward to 4 and keeping my fingers crossed the adjucator bitch gets bullet. They made her properly unlikable.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on May 27, 2019 19:47:08 GMT
I am going to have to be the dissenting voice here and say that I really don't care much for the whole mythology of the Table and the hotels and everything else. The first movie was great as a stand-alone revenge flick. I wish they had kept it at that. I don't think the mythology is sound and solid enough to support two and possibly even more sequels.
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Post by Nora on May 27, 2019 20:37:31 GMT
I am going to have to be the dissenting voice here and say that I really don't care much for the whole mythology of the Table and the hotels and everything else. The first movie was great as a stand-alone revenge flick. I wish they had kept it at that. I don't think the mythology is sound and solid enough to support two and possibly even more sequels.
what about it felt unsound or unsolid? i agree the core story was more interesting to me too but i wouldnt call the universe or the mythology of it ubsound and unsolid - in the world where John Wick 1 was possible and real that is...
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Post by Jep Gambardella on May 27, 2019 22:07:49 GMT
I am going to have to be the dissenting voice here and say that I really don't care much for the whole mythology of the Table and the hotels and everything else. The first movie was great as a stand-alone revenge flick. I wish they had kept it at that. I don't think the mythology is sound and solid enough to support two and possibly even more sequels.
what about it felt unsound or unsolid? i agree the core story was more interesting to me too but i wouldnt call the universe or the mythology of it ubsound and unsolid - in the world where John Wick 1 was possible and real that is... Maybe that wasn't the best choice of words. What I meant is that in the first movie, I thought the hotel for professional killers with its services and rules was a cool and creative detail that enhanced the story - but when it became central to the plot, I just couldn't "buy" it. The level of suspension of disbelief required for me to accept the premise of an international super criminal organisation like the one depicted on chapters 2 and 3 was just too high for me. I mean, I will buy a nearly indestructible John Wick, but when you have professional assassins playing the violin on a subway station, or a random taxi on the street having knowledge of the organisation and how it works, or gun battles being fought without the intervention of law enforcement, it stops being cool and becomes silly instead.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2019 22:18:46 GMT
what about it felt unsound or unsolid? i agree the core story was more interesting to me too but i wouldnt call the universe or the mythology of it ubsound and unsolid - in the world where John Wick 1 was possible and real that is... Maybe that wasn't the best choice of words. What I meant is that in the first movie, I thought the hotel for professional killers with its services and rules was a cool and creative detail that enhanced the story - but when it became central to the plot, I just couldn't "buy" it. The level of suspension of disbelief required for me to accept the premise of an international super criminal organisation like the one depicted on chapters 2 and 3 was just too high for me. I mean, I will buy a nearly indestructible John Wick, but when you have professional assassins playing the violin on a subway station, or a random taxi on the street having knowledge of the organisation and how it works, or gun battles being fought without the intervention of law enforcement, it stops being cool and becomes silly instead.
It was people getting shot and their throats slit in a busy subway without so much as a turn of the head that irked me. Oddly enough, everything else I can suspend my disbelief for. I go into these films with tne attitude it's a parallel universe anyway.
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Post by miike80 on May 30, 2019 13:19:51 GMT
Is anybody in the world an assassin in this one too?
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Post by Nora on May 30, 2019 17:02:58 GMT
Is anybody in the world an assassin in this one too? if you mean everybody and if you mean it in a hyperbolic way then yes.
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Post by miike80 on May 30, 2019 17:06:44 GMT
Is anybody in the world an assassin in this one too? if you mean everybody and if you mean it in a hyperbolic way then yes. Hyperbolic, i guess there's still 2-3 persons in the world that are not. Until the fourth one, that is
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Post by doctorstrange on Jun 2, 2019 14:37:40 GMT
John Wick 3 was really enjoyable!
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