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Post by nostromo on Mar 24, 2019 9:18:04 GMT
I thought it was terrific. It is such a layered film. I wasn't really a fan of Get Out, I thought that film was hugely overrated. But 'Us' is on another level.
There is so much going on it is insane. So much foreshadowing and symbolism. So many nods to the socio-political landscape of America. The apocalyptic scenario we all face if we don't wake up. (11:11 is the rapture in the bible). Even the score in the baseball match is 11 - 11.
The main theme is one of how society has been torn apart in recent times. This manifests itself in people that you think are normal, showing behavioural traits / opinion / beliefs you would never expect them to show / hold. Some people describe this as "the rise of the right" and "empowerment". They suddenly have a voice. This is shown in the movie by the tethered suddenly having a voice (literally as Red can now speak). They rise up and challenge.
The ending (humans linked in a barrier) also has large connotations with 'a wall', we all probably know what Peele was alluding to there.
There is also a very strong link to those tethered underground being the underclass. Eating raw meat. Underground. Peele may be alluding to the poverty gap widening.
There are also a load of nods to popular culture. I loved the beach scene reminiscing Jaws. I loved the car on the road reminiscing the Shining opening sequence, plus the twin girls paying homage to that movie. The VHS tapes on the shelf (the Goonies etc). And if you think about it - there is also a character in the Goonies that is tethered and can barely speak. I wouldn't be surprised if this is another of Peele's tenuous but clever links.
I just loved the intelligence of this film. The thought process gone into it. I wish all horror films were this cerebral.
Great film.
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Post by politicidal on Mar 24, 2019 14:31:17 GMT
Cool to hear.
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Post by hi224 on Mar 24, 2019 17:07:00 GMT
Nice.
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Post by gljbradley on Mar 24, 2019 22:57:25 GMT
Awesome!
I can't wait to see this film!
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 27, 2019 3:59:27 GMT
I'm the opposite. I loved Get Out, thought this was just okay. Started off well with a lot of atmosphere and a slow buildup, but then lost that tension once things started happening, especially since the doppelgangers proved pretty ineffective and useless against the family.
I was looking for a subtext here but couldn't quite read it. Your interpretation seems kinda contradictory. So the doppelgangers are both the underclassed AND the alt-right? I don't know about that.
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Post by hi224 on Mar 27, 2019 5:47:57 GMT
Needed less twists as well.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 27, 2019 9:06:30 GMT
Needed less twists as well. Forgot to say, but I saw the final twist coming about an hour before the reveal. |
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Post by Caesium137 on Mar 27, 2019 9:36:58 GMT
Makes me want to reallly see it now. I wasnt big on get out either but glad you thought Us was a level above
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 20:28:37 GMT
I hated the movie.
Now one thing which I didn't talk about earlier was the stupid writing. How it showed that the clones were doing everything that their natural human clones were doing. Like when it showed the natural humans shaking from the roller coaster, the clones were doing the same thing, but not on a roller coaster. Like it was happening to them.
Yet when they came out of hiding, the clones didn't do what the humans did. Well except for the boy in the mask. Like why would he all of a sudden do it at certain times, but not all the time? Like at the end the son had the masked clone walk backwards like he was doing. Why wasn't the clone always doing what the son was doing though since that's apparently what happens? It just all of a sudden stopped for all the clones except for one. It just made no sense.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2019 22:38:31 GMT
Pretty damn good horror film! I was entertained by this all the way thru but can see where the criticisms are coming from .
I'd still give the edge to Get Out but Us is definitely worth checking out in theaters.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Mar 28, 2019 1:14:22 GMT
I hated the movie. Now one thing which I didn't talk about earlier was the stupid writing. How it showed that the clones were doing everything that their natural human clones were doing. Like when it showed the natural humans shaking from the roller coaster, the clones were doing the same thing, but not on a roller coaster. Like it was happening to them. Yet when they came out of hiding, the clones didn't do what the humans did. Well except for the boy in the mask. Like why would he all of a sudden do it at certain times, but not all the time? Like at the end the son had the masked clone walk backwards like he was doing. Why wasn't the clone always doing what the son was doing though since that's apparently what happens? It just all of a sudden stopped for all the clones except for one. It just made no sense. I haven't even tried to make sense of the plot. I feel like trying to apply logic to it would lobotomize my brain. |
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Post by Nora on Mar 30, 2019 3:16:51 GMT
I'm the opposite. I loved Get Out, thought this was just okay. Started off well with a lot of atmosphere and a slow buildup, but then lost that tension once things started happening, especially since the doppelgangers proved pretty ineffective and useless against the family. I was looking for a subtext here but couldn't quite read it. Your interpretation seems kinda contradictory. So the doppelgangers are both the underclassed AND the alt-right? I don't know about that. agreed on most of what you say. promising and very creepy start lost on retarded behavior and ineffectiveness of both parties. (note the taylors dopolegangers were much more effective). plus too forcefully communicating the sociopolitical undertone. but i did like the very biggining and very end of the movie and Loved the visuals and movements. |
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Post by Nora on Mar 30, 2019 3:18:24 GMT
I thought it was terrific. It is such a layered film. I wasn't really a fan of Get Out, I thought that film was hugely overrated. But 'Us' is on another level. There is so much going on it is insane. So much foreshadowing and symbolism. So many nods to the socio-political landscape of America. The apocalyptic scenario we all face if we don't wake up. (11:11 is the rapture in the bible). Even the score in the baseball match is 11 - 11. The main theme is one of how society has been torn apart in recent times. This manifests itself in people that you think are normal, showing behavioural traits / opinion / beliefs you would never expect them to show / hold. Some people describe this as "the rise of the right" and "empowerment". They suddenly have a voice. This is shown in the movie by the tethered suddenly having a voice (literally as Red can now speak). They rise up and challenge. The ending (humans linked in a barrier) also has large connotations with 'a wall', we all probably know what Peele was alluding to there. There is also a very strong link to those tethered underground being the underclass. Eating raw meat. Underground. Peele may be alluding to the poverty gap widening. There are also a load of nods to popular culture. I loved the beach scene reminiscing Jaws. I loved the car on the road reminiscing the Shining opening sequence, plus the twin girls paying homage to that movie. The VHS tapes on the shelf (the Goonies etc). And if you think about it - there is also a character in the Goonies that is tethered and can barely speak. I wouldn't be surprised if this is another of Peele's tenuous but clever links. I just loved the intelligence of this film. The thought process gone into it. I wish all horror films were this cerebral. Great film. while i didnt love the movie i appreciate your post and excitment. nice to read. |
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Post by sdrew13163 on Apr 15, 2019 3:22:30 GMT
I hated the movie. Now one thing which I didn't talk about earlier was the stupid writing. How it showed that the clones were doing everything that their natural human clones were doing. Like when it showed the natural humans shaking from the roller coaster, the clones were doing the same thing, but not on a roller coaster. Like it was happening to them. Yet when they came out of hiding, the clones didn't do what the humans did. Well except for the boy in the mask. Like why would he all of a sudden do it at certain times, but not all the time? Like at the end the son had the masked clone walk backwards like he was doing. Why wasn't the clone always doing what the son was doing though since that's apparently what happens? It just all of a sudden stopped for all the clones except for one. It just made no sense. Yeah that's what I didn't understand. Especially the part with the kid. Why was he suddenly able to control him, but he couldn't before? It was obviously involuntary, so it more or less proves that the kid knew how to take control of his Tether whenever he wanted instead of his Tether willingly giving up control to the "surface" people. I don't know if you could call that lazy writing because it's so obviously contradictory and makes no sense that it had to be intentional. Same thing with the underlying message and themes. What was Peele trying to say here? Its message made no sense the more I thought about it. As moviebuffbrad pointed out, it contradicts itself. Was that the point? I don't know, I'm kind of at a loss here. The movie was too well-made from a technical perspective to be this sloppy. Perhaps a rewatch for further analysis is necessary.
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Post by Nora on Apr 17, 2019 2:30:31 GMT
I hated the movie. Now one thing which I didn't talk about earlier was the stupid writing. How it showed that the clones were doing everything that their natural human clones were doing. Like when it showed the natural humans shaking from the roller coaster, the clones were doing the same thing, but not on a roller coaster. Like it was happening to them. Yet when they came out of hiding, the clones didn't do what the humans did. Well except for the boy in the mask. Like why would he all of a sudden do it at certain times, but not all the time? Like at the end the son had the masked clone walk backwards like he was doing. Why wasn't the clone always doing what the son was doing though since that's apparently what happens? It just all of a sudden stopped for all the clones except for one. It just made no sense. Yeah that's what I didn't understand. Especially the part with the kid. Why was he suddenly able to control him, but he couldn't before? It was obviously involuntary, so it more or less proves that the kid knew how to take control of his Tether whenever he wanted instead of his Tether willingly giving up control to the "surface" people. I don't know if you could call that lazy writing because it's so obviously contradictory and makes no sense that it had to be intentional. Same thing with the underlying message and themes. What was Peele trying to say here? Its message made no sense the more I thought about it. As moviebuffbrad pointed out, it contradicts itself. Was that the point? I don't know, I'm kind of at a loss here. The movie was too well-made from a technical perspective to be this sloppy. Perhaps a rewatch for further analysis is necessary. at first i thought the boy intentionally walked into fire, because he was so attracted to it. or that he was simply tricked into it. alternativelly he was able to controll him only when he wanted to do so. agree that this whole element (Tethers beig/not beig controlled by humans) was the weakest and most anoying. |
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Post by sdrew13163 on Apr 17, 2019 3:17:41 GMT
Yeah that's what I didn't understand. Especially the part with the kid. Why was he suddenly able to control him, but he couldn't before? It was obviously involuntary, so it more or less proves that the kid knew how to take control of his Tether whenever he wanted instead of his Tether willingly giving up control to the "surface" people. I don't know if you could call that lazy writing because it's so obviously contradictory and makes no sense that it had to be intentional. Same thing with the underlying message and themes. What was Peele trying to say here? Its message made no sense the more I thought about it. As moviebuffbrad pointed out, it contradicts itself. Was that the point? I don't know, I'm kind of at a loss here. The movie was too well-made from a technical perspective to be this sloppy. Perhaps a rewatch for further analysis is necessary. at first i thought the boy intentionally walked into fire, because he was so attracted to it. or that he was simply tricked into it. alternativelly he was able to controll him only when he wanted to do so. agree that this whole element (Tethers beig/not beig controlled by humans) was the weakest and most anoying. But even if he could only control him if he wanted to then why were they being controlled earlier when nobody knew of their existence? I don’t know, I always hate when people nitpick little technicalities like this, but this one seems kind of important to the story. Like it needed to make sense in order to be effective. |
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Post by egon1982 on Apr 30, 2019 14:19:28 GMT
Disappointing movie! i loved Get Out as it was something different in the mainstream horror/thriller genre and US had a good premise, interesting ideas, some thrills and fine performances but let down by the silly twist/ending which i felt Get Out had a much satisfying ending.
But i do admit i respect this movie for being a box-office hit in having audiences see something different in the mainstream horror genre than another readaptation of a book previously film, another pointless remake like Poltergeist, another ghost film, another found footage film and another remake/reboot/prequel/sequel to an already dead horse franchise that should stay dead franchise like Elm Street or Saw or Texas Chainsaw Massacre etc.
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Post by Vits on May 1, 2019 17:30:16 GMT
US is a thrilling movie full of unpredictable moments... except for the ending which I saw coming right before the opening credits started rolling. I don't want to sound like a know-it-all but, based on how the cold open is structured, I don't think people who have already seen movies/shows about evil doppelgangers will have a hard time figuring it out either. It's a mistake for movies to use text to tell the audience what year it is when something later will indicate it. Here, it's done in reverse and it's worse: The 1st scene shows a young version of ADELAIDE WILSON (the protagonist) watching TV and a commercial indicates that it's 1986... and then that year appears as a text! Jordan Peele's directing is great, while the performances are decent, except for Shahadi Wright Joseph. Hers is passable as ZORA (ADELAIDE's daugther) yet very good as UMBRAE (her counterpart). This might be the 1st ever horror movie where no character (main or minor) ever calls for help. Not even ZORA when she finally finds a neighbor after escaping (they're at their beach house, which is not located in a street full of houses), only for him to be stabbed by UMBRAE. She couldn't even warn him to be careful? When the truth in GET OUT (also produced, written and directed by Peele) was revealed, it was an illogical one. Of course that horror movies can have otherworldy elements, but that one in particular wasn't consistent with the relatively realistic fictional world that had been established by that point.In this movie, the villains are revealed to be clones who live underground and mimic our every movement. Yep, it's once again a far-fetched explanation to the mystery, but I can't really say if it's logical or not because not that many details are revealed. Who exactly created them and how? If they were abandoned, why are there still entrances that make it easy for them to escape? How ADELAIDE's clone manage to go up the one-way escalator? Why is she sentient enough to figure out how to escape and switch places with the original one, but no other clone is? Don't the clones notice that a real person is among them? Does the original ADELAIDE mimic the clone? How? If the clones are always in mimic mode, why do they act on their own in many scenes? 8/10 ------------------------------------- You can read comments of other movies in my blog. |
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Post by joekiddlouischama on May 19, 2019 5:25:46 GMT
Needed less twists as well. Forgot to say, but I saw the final twist coming about an hour before the reveal. I actually did not even recognize it until I saw Us for a second time ...
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Post by joekiddlouischama on May 19, 2019 5:29:57 GMT
Yeah that's what I didn't understand. Especially the part with the kid. Why was he suddenly able to control him, but he couldn't before? It was obviously involuntary, so it more or less proves that the kid knew how to take control of his Tether whenever he wanted instead of his Tether willingly giving up control to the "surface" people. I don't know if you could call that lazy writing because it's so obviously contradictory and makes no sense that it had to be intentional. Same thing with the underlying message and themes. What was Peele trying to say here? Its message made no sense the more I thought about it. As moviebuffbrad pointed out, it contradicts itself. Was that the point? I don't know, I'm kind of at a loss here. The movie was too well-made from a technical perspective to be this sloppy. Perhaps a rewatch for further analysis is necessary. at first i thought the boy intentionally walked into fire, because he was so attracted to it. or that he was simply tricked into it. alternativelly he was able to controll him only when he wanted to do so. agree that this whole element (Tethers beig/not beig controlled by humans) was the weakest and most anoying. My sense is that Peele was going for cinematic style more than logic or substance. As I will explain later, I believe that the are greater contradictions or illogical situations in the film.
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