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Post by Rodney Farber on Apr 2, 2019 1:16:52 GMT
Theists: What's your opinion of these well known religious figures, past and present (feel free to add to this list):
Jimmy Swaggart, Robert Tilton, Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Jesse DuPlantis, Billy Graham, Jim Bakker, Jerry Falwell, Mike Murdock, Peter Popoff
These are just a few of the ones off the top of my head. Personally, I think they are/were scum of the earth who pray/prayed on the desperate and gullible. "If you give the Lord (i.e. ME) money, the Lord will return it to you ten fold". Many of these televangelists have their own private jets. Kenneth Copeland has his own airport. In an online Youtube video, Kenneth and Jesse Duplantis are telling how "necessary" a private jet has become. Kenneth called a commercial airline, "A long tube with a bunch of demons." What an arrogant asshole.
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Post by Morgana on Apr 2, 2019 7:27:13 GMT
Theists: What's your opinion of these well known religious figures, past and present (feel free to add to this list): Jimmy Swaggart, Robert Tilton, Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Jesse DuPlantis, Billy Graham, Jim Bakker, Jerry Falwell, Mike Murdock, Peter Popoff These are just a few of the ones off the top of my head. Personally, I think they are/were scum of the earth who pray/prayed on the desperate and gullible. "If you give the Lord (i.e. ME) money, the Lord will return it to you ten fold". Many of these televangelists have their own private jets. Kenneth Copeland has his own airport. In an online Youtube video, Kenneth and Jesse Duplantis are telling how "necessary" a private jet has become. Kenneth called a commercial airline, "A long tube with a bunch of demons." What an arrogant asshole. Though I don't know who all of them are I agree with you. They should be ashamed to call themselves 'Christians'. I don't know what is worse - these false prophets or the people who follow them.
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Post by phludowin on Apr 2, 2019 8:23:30 GMT
I'm not a theist, and the only name I recognise is Jerry Falwell.
So I'd say these characters are not "well-known".
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Post by Cody™ on Apr 2, 2019 9:08:34 GMT
Theists: What's your opinion of these well known religious figures, past and present (feel free to add to this list): Jimmy Swaggart, Robert Tilton, Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Jesse DuPlantis, Billy Graham, Jim Bakker, Jerry Falwell, Mike Murdock, Peter Popoff These are just a few of the ones off the top of my head. Personally, I think they are/were scum of the earth who pray/prayed on the desperate and gullible. "If you give the Lord (i.e. ME) money, the Lord will return it to you ten fold". Many of these televangelists have their own private jets. Kenneth Copeland has his own airport. In an online Youtube video, Kenneth and Jesse Duplantis are telling how "necessary" a private jet has become. Kenneth called a commercial airline, "A long tube with a bunch of demons." What an arrogant asshole. Billy Graham was the only legit one out of that bunch. Verses like this sum up the rest of them. “and constant friction between men of depraved mind and deprived of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain.”1 TIMOTHY 6:5 |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2019 9:18:08 GMT
Are they tele-evangelists?
Pledge money to my holy crusade to buy me a massive house in LA and you will be saved merchants?
Otherwise known as conmen.
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Post by geode on Apr 2, 2019 10:41:33 GMT
Theists: What's your opinion of these well known religious figures, past and present (feel free to add to this list): Jimmy Swaggart, Robert Tilton, Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Jesse DuPlantis, Billy Graham, Jim Bakker, Jerry Falwell, Mike Murdock, Peter Popoff These are just a few of the ones off the top of my head. Personally, I think they are/were scum of the earth who pray/prayed on the desperate and gullible. "If you give the Lord (i.e. ME) money, the Lord will return it to you ten fold". Many of these televangelists have their own private jets. Kenneth Copeland has his own airport. In an online Youtube video, Kenneth and Jesse Duplantis are telling how "necessary" a private jet has become. Kenneth called a commercial airline, "A long tube with a bunch of demons." What an arrogant asshole. Billy Graham was the only legit one out of that bunch. Verses like this sum up the rest of them. “and constant friction between men of depraved mind and deprived of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain.”1 TIMOTHY 6:5 Billy Graham was totally legit. I think Jim Bakker started out as the real thing but got corrupted.
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Post by Rodney Farber on Apr 2, 2019 14:41:12 GMT
I'm not a theist, and the only name I recognise is Jerry Falwell. So I'd say these characters are not "well-known". You must lead a sheltered life, or I watch too much television. Do you receive DayStar television or the SonLife Broadcast Network? What about the paid, religious advertising at 4am on many television stations. When scanning through the stations, I'll stop on one of these networks and laugh at the BS they're selling.
Among other things, Creflo Dollar asks his parishioners for fifty-four million dollars for a private jet in this video.
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Peter Popoff declared bankruptcy after this broadcast. Popoff has since resurfaced with his miracle spring water shtick. Even though many of these con-men have been exposed, they continue to dupe the gullible and desperate to part with what few dollars they have.
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Post by phludowin on Apr 2, 2019 18:09:16 GMT
Do you receive DayStar television or the SonLife Broadcast Network? Not that I know of. What about the paid, religious advertising at 4am on many television stations. I don't remember if I ever watched TV at 4am.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 2, 2019 18:12:42 GMT
Do you receive DayStar television or the SonLife Broadcast Network? Not that I know of. What about the paid, religious advertising at 4am on many television stations. I don't remember if I ever watched TV at 4am. I have not seen TV in years. Sadly those wackos are now getting into internet world too but I am happy that we have so much more power to control what we see on internet as compared to what we could see on TV (especially in those days when we had very few alternatives and sometimes had to share it with others). Internet is so many times better in my view.
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Post by lowtacks86 on Apr 2, 2019 18:33:22 GMT
Billy Graham was the only legit one out of that bunch. Verses like this sum up the rest of them. “and constant friction between men of depraved mind and deprived of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain.”1 TIMOTHY 6:5 Billy Graham was totally legit. I think Jim Bakker started out as the real thing but got corrupted. Baker got busted for tax evasion a while ago. Looks like nowadays he's trying to sell buckets of slop to senile Doomsday preppers.
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Post by general313 on Apr 2, 2019 19:04:48 GMT
I'm not a theist, and the only name I recognise is Jerry Falwell. So I'd say these characters are not "well-known". Billy Graham met with every American president since Truman and had a close friendship with Queen Elizabeth II. He's the only one of the bunch that I think might have been sincere. Incidentally his son Franklin has turned out to be as big a scumbag as the rest of them.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Apr 2, 2019 19:10:20 GMT
Theists: What's your opinion of these well known religious figures, past and present (feel free to add to this list): Jimmy Swaggart, Robert Tilton, Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Jesse DuPlantis, Billy Graham, Jim Bakker, Jerry Falwell, Mike Murdock, Peter Popoff These are just a few of the ones off the top of my head. Personally, I think they are/were scum of the earth who pray/prayed on the desperate and gullible. "If you give the Lord (i.e. ME) money, the Lord will return it to you ten fold". Many of these televangelists have their own private jets. Kenneth Copeland has his own airport. In an online Youtube video, Kenneth and Jesse Duplantis are telling how "necessary" a private jet has become. Kenneth called a commercial airline, "A long tube with a bunch of demons." What an arrogant asshole. I never cared much for Billy Graham, Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, or Jerry Falwell. I used to like Kenneth Copeland and Jesse DuPlantis but not anymore. I've heard of Peter Popoff and Robert Tilton but can't remember ever seeing them. Not familiar with Creflo Dollar or Mike Murdock.
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Post by clusium on Apr 2, 2019 19:35:04 GMT
Theists: What's your opinion of these well known religious figures, past and present (feel free to add to this list): Jimmy Swaggart, Robert Tilton, Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Jesse DuPlantis, Billy Graham, Jim Bakker, Jerry Falwell, Mike Murdock, Peter Popoff These are just a few of the ones off the top of my head. Personally, I think they are/were scum of the earth who pray/prayed on the desperate and gullible. "If you give the Lord (i.e. ME) money, the Lord will return it to you ten fold". Many of these televangelists have their own private jets. Kenneth Copeland has his own airport. In an online Youtube video, Kenneth and Jesse Duplantis are telling how "necessary" a private jet has become. Kenneth called a commercial airline, "A long tube with a bunch of demons." What an arrogant asshole. I never cared much for Billy Graham, Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, or Jerry Falwell. I used to like Kenneth Copeland and Jesse DuPlantis but not anymore. I've heard of Peter Popoff and Robert Tilton but can't remember ever seeing them. Not familiar with Creflo Dollar or Mike Murdock. I liked Billy Graham. He seemed like a really nice & sincere one. He was also very ecumenical with Christians in general, & not judgemental on Christians that did not belong to the same denominations (Baptist & Presbyterian) as him. As someone already noted, he knew Queen Elizabeth II (who is the Defender of the Anglican Faith), & he even knew St. Pope John Paul II, as well.
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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 2, 2019 23:04:18 GMT
I'm not a theist, and the only name I recognise is Jerry Falwell. So I'd say these characters are not "well-known". They pay for their programs to be on television. You might not get their broadcasts where you live. It's like other paid advertising, it only goes as far as it has been paid to go. They have some of their own broadcast stations and networks that provide some content like TBN and Daystar. Your area might not have any of those.
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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 2, 2019 23:14:35 GMT
Theists: What's your opinion of these well known religious figures, past and present (feel free to add to this list): Jimmy Swaggart, Robert Tilton, Kenneth Copeland, Creflo Dollar, Jesse DuPlantis, Billy Graham, Jim Bakker, Jerry Falwell, Mike Murdock, Peter Popoff These are just a few of the ones off the top of my head. Personally, I think they are/were scum of the earth who pray/prayed on the desperate and gullible. "If you give the Lord (i.e. ME) money, the Lord will return it to you ten fold". Many of these televangelists have their own private jets. Kenneth Copeland has his own airport. In an online Youtube video, Kenneth and Jesse Duplantis are telling how "necessary" a private jet has become. Kenneth called a commercial airline, "A long tube with a bunch of demons." What an arrogant asshole. I never cared much for Billy Graham, Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, or Jerry Falwell. I used to like Kenneth Copeland and Jesse DuPlantis but not anymore. I've heard of Peter Popoff and Robert Tilton but can't remember ever seeing them. Not familiar with Creflo Dollar or Mike Murdock. I liked Kenneth Copeland's message before too, but he's gone too "prosperity preacher" lately without any other substance.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Apr 3, 2019 2:18:54 GMT
I'm not a theist, and the only name I recognise is Jerry Falwell. So I'd say these characters are not "well-known". Billy Graham met with every American president since Truman and had a close friendship with Queen Elizabeth II. He's the only one of the bunch that I think might have been sincere. Incidentally his son Franklin has turned out to be as big a scumbag as the rest of them. I read this book years ago, and Templeton discussed Graham at length, how Graham made a conscious choice to ignore the issues that Templeton was considering. He felt that Graham was sincere, one of the 'true believers', but Templeton could not share that faith. It is an interesting read. But, yes, the others are all in it for the Almighty Dollar.
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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 3, 2019 7:30:29 GMT
Billy Graham met with every American president since Truman and had a close friendship with Queen Elizabeth II. He's the only one of the bunch that I think might have been sincere. Incidentally his son Franklin has turned out to be as big a scumbag as the rest of them. I read this book years ago, and Templeton discussed Graham at length, how Graham made a conscious choice to ignore the issues that Templeton was considering. He felt that Graham was sincere, one of the 'true believers', but Templeton could not share that faith. It is an interesting read. But, yes, the others are all in it for the Almighty Dollar. Some of them are mere soldiers and some of them are generals, but I suspect they all start out as mere soldiers. Some never develop very far. Some show remarkable wisdom at a young age. Perhaps you've met young people with wisdom beyond their years who took other walks in life.
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Post by general313 on Apr 3, 2019 13:42:49 GMT
Billy Graham met with every American president since Truman and had a close friendship with Queen Elizabeth II. He's the only one of the bunch that I think might have been sincere. Incidentally his son Franklin has turned out to be as big a scumbag as the rest of them. I read this book years ago, and Templeton discussed Graham at length, how Graham made a conscious choice to ignore the issues that Templeton was considering. He felt that Graham was sincere, one of the 'true believers', but Templeton could not share that faith. It is an interesting read. But, yes, the others are all in it for the Almighty Dollar. I have not heard of him. I suppose my Christian parents had but for some reason decided not to discuss him with their children. They talked a lot about Billy Graham.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Apr 3, 2019 13:52:19 GMT
I read this book years ago, and Templeton discussed Graham at length, how Graham made a conscious choice to ignore the issues that Templeton was considering. He felt that Graham was sincere, one of the 'true believers', but Templeton could not share that faith. It is an interesting read. But, yes, the others are all in it for the Almighty Dollar. I have not heard of him. I suppose my Christian parents had but for some reason decided not to discuss him with their children. They talked a lot about Billy Graham. I hadn't heard of him, either - I think he left evangelism about the time I was born. But my parents were very much into Billy Graham.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 14:06:22 GMT
You forgot Bobby Tilton...  ... and Ernest Angley...  ... good fun back in the day, late Saturday nite! |
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