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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 12:14:58 GMT
I love Netflix, but fuck Netflix,” she said to big applause from the theater owners gathered in Las Vegas. "There’s nothing like sitting in the cinema and the lights go down." Mirren then added, "I would like to thank you guys for making that environment possible." (It’s commonplace for talent to praise cinema owners onstage at CinemaCon.)
Good for her . you just cant reproduce say The IMAX experience at home.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 3, 2019 16:02:31 GMT
"I love Netflix, but fuck Netflix,”
Is she bipolar?
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Post by Nora on Apr 3, 2019 16:05:16 GMT
"I love Netflix, but fuck Netflix,” Is she bipolar? Michael Moore said the same last week and explained that while he totally values and recognizes what Netflix does for indie filmmakers and films/shows that otherwise wouldnt have been even made, he also sees what they do to cinema and hopes that we wont end up being stuck with just superhero genre in the big screens eventually I agree and completelly get the “bipolar” sentiment of Mirren and Moore and surely many others. I love Netflix but dont watch movies on it. only shows. doing my best to support cinemas... |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 3, 2019 16:15:44 GMT
The superhero genre is a very small percentage of all films released in theaters. I'm tired of that straw man being brought up all the time.
Also, annual box office revenues are still near all time highs so I don't think cinema is in any danger. The business needs to adjust just like it did when television came along.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2019 18:34:36 GMT
The superhero genre is a very small percentage of all films released in theaters. I'm tired of that straw man being brought up all the time. Also, annual box office revenues are still near all time highs so I don't think cinema is in any danger. The business needs to adjust just like it did when television came along. yes box office is very healty in 2019. Endgame is gauranteed 2 billion lion king, 1 billion. star wars 9 maybe also 2 billion. |
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Post by James on Apr 3, 2019 20:20:30 GMT
Basically what I think. I like Netflix but I don’t cherish it.
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Post by Nora on Apr 3, 2019 20:40:09 GMT
The superhero genre is a very small percentage of all films released in theaters. I'm tired of that straw man being brought up all the time. Also, annual box office revenues are still near all time highs so I don't think cinema is in any danger. The business needs to adjust just like it did when television came along. do you know the numbers on superhero/fantasy genee revenue annualy vs other genres and the ratio of it? (lets go by US only) the business Is already adjusting. And the trend Is clear and its going the way Moore fears it does. I dont think it will get all the way there but the tendency is clear. Money speaks volume and superhero and fantasy genres are kinda domineering the landscape more and more. 12b/year total revenue average 600 movies released you do the math. |
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 3, 2019 20:58:35 GMT
The superhero genre is a very small percentage of all films released in theaters. I'm tired of that straw man being brought up all the time. Also, annual box office revenues are still near all time highs so I don't think cinema is in any danger. The business needs to adjust just like it did when television came along. do you know the numbers on superhero/fantasy genee revenue annualy vs other genres and the ratio of it? (lets go by Us only) the business Is already adjusting. And the trend Is clearl and its going the way Moore fears it does. I dont think it will get all the way there but the tendency is clear. Money speaks volume and superhero and fantasy genres are kinda domineering the landscape more and more. 12b/year total revenue average 600 movies released you do the math. Not sure I get your point. So what if superhero movies make a disproportionate amount of money? Superhero movies are the best thing to happen to the theater business in decades. And they do not stop any other genres from being made and shown in theaters, as I said they are few in number compared to everything else (comedies and horrors are just 2 examples that far outnumber comic book movies). There are 65 movies listed on the daily box office report on boxofficemojo.com and only 5 of them could be called superhero movies.
You could get rid of all superhero movies and you still couldn't pay people to go see any of Michael Moore's crap movies.
There's always genres that dominate the landscape at any given time. Westerns in the 50's, action movies in the 80's, etc. None of it is any sort of threat to cinema.
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Post by Nora on Apr 3, 2019 21:14:53 GMT
do you know the numbers on superhero/fantasy genee revenue annualy vs other genres and the ratio of it? (lets go by Us only) the business Is already adjusting. And the trend Is clearl and its going the way Moore fears it does. I dont think it will get all the way there but the tendency is clear. Money speaks volume and superhero and fantasy genres are kinda domineering the landscape more and more. 12b/year total revenue average 600 movies released you do the math. Not sure I get your point. So what if superhero movies make a disproportionate amount of money? Superhero movies are the best thing to happen to the theater business in decades. And they do not stop any other genres from being made and shown in theaters, as I said they are few in number compared to everything else (comedies and horrors are just 2 examples that far outnumber comic book movies). There are 65 movies listed on the daily box office report on boxofficemojo.com and only 5 of them could be called superhero movies.
You could get rid of all superhero movies and you still couldn't pay people to go see any of Michael Moore's crap movies.
There's always genres that dominate the landscape at any given time. Westerns in the 50's, action movies in the 80's, etc. None of it is any sort of threat to cinema.
gener dominating is not a thread on its own of course. but one genre dominating and having the Strongest revenue power AND at the same time alternative for watching new movies legally at home in good quality existing Does Mean that some of the movies that historically would go to the cinema now stay on netflix (if they get made at all). Or get super limited release at best. example: Mayerowitz Stories. An amazig film with oscar winner in it was shown in like 4 theatres for a week. Netflix deserves kudos for making it of course. But its a movie that most theatres would pass on if they jave a more lucrative option that week of course -‘d there is very many movies like that. Re Moore - he made over 345 m in box office for his 10 little doumentaries. Thats a great result. Many narratives dont get 30 m average. |
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 7, 2019 15:49:36 GMT
I love Netflix, but fuck Netflix,” she said to big applause from the theater owners gathered in Las Vegas. "There’s nothing like sitting in the cinema and the lights go down." Mirren then added, "I would like to thank you guys for making that environment possible." (It’s commonplace for talent to praise cinema owners onstage at CinemaCon.) Good for her . you just cant reproduce say The IMAX experience at home. I prefer watching at home, for the cinema might be better in terms of sound and visuals etc. pp., but also a tons of annoying people and the total lack of privacy. If I sum the pros and cons up, I'm in the red. Usually, I wait some weeks before I watch a movie to have as few people in the room as possible. If someone, a complete stranger, sits aside me, the evening is ruined for good.
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Post by politicidal on Apr 7, 2019 16:54:03 GMT
They've been irksome as of late. I'm still miffed they culled so many titles from their classics collection.
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Post by gljbradley on Apr 8, 2019 23:10:02 GMT
Basically what I think. I like Netflix but I don’t cherish it. EXACTLY!!! ^
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Post by leesilm on Apr 9, 2019 19:01:49 GMT
There's also to be considered, those places that actually still have movie-rental places who make a good deal of money. Places where the internet sucks (parts of Alaska, parts of the American East coast, etc.) where the nearest movie theatre may be quite a long drive, the internet won't support Netflix or streaming, so people still go to the local rental shop (be it a little Redbox, the last Blockbuster, the rental section at Shop'n'Save, etc.) to get a movie they'll watch over the weekend. These are the areas where families still make trips to the movie theatre regularly, because it is a family outing AND it isn't like they can check it out on Apple streaming or Netflix.
Yeah, Netflix/etc. are good for indie filmmakers and for getting TV shows made that otherwise wouldn't be made (i.e. something that has the sensibility of an R-rated movie, but is a 16 episode season). And it is good to be able to offer more diversity in viewing options. However, I wouldn't want to lose theatres, because there is something about going to see a movie at the cinema. On one hand, you've got that whole going to see it as a group that makes it feel more like seeing a play or live production of any sort-- there is an energy in sitting in the dark with a group as you see the characters you love doing daring things, risking it all, losing friends, battling villains, cracking wise, and sailing off into the sunset. And, on the other hand, there is nothing like sitting there in front of that GIANT screen, in an amphitheater style arrangement, watching a story unfold, larger than life.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 9, 2019 21:55:44 GMT
Perhaps theater owners should charge less.
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Post by leesilm on Apr 10, 2019 6:01:29 GMT
There's actually a theatre near where I live, and they did fund-raising a few years ago to upgrade the theatre cause they still had to get actual film reels to show anything. They also had a roof that was failing, their plumbing wasn't up to code, all sorts of stuff. They worked with the community, they got a couple grants (the place is a historical landmark, it turned out), and they were able to totally refurbish the place from top to bottom.
But the great thing is, they figured out that they could operate selling an adult ticket for 5.50, kids/seniors for 4.00, their large popcorn is less than half the price of any theatre in the area, same for the drinks, their candy is reasonably priced, and they've got a few little deals where they allow you to pick a movie/popcorn size/couple drinks/sometimes candy too, and you get a slight discount for the "Datenight special", or a, "Family Night Out" packages.
Last year, due to issues with the price of renting the movies they show and the price of the soda refills for the soda fountain, they had to raise the ticket prices by 50 cents. So it's 6$ to see a movie for adults, kids/seniors still aren't up to 5$ a head yet, and they didn't change the price of the concessions at all. They decorate with cool tin signs of old movie posters, popcorn containers, movie awards, ticket stubs, and such. The seats are stadium, but it isn't a very steep drop/angle, the seats themselves are super padded and comfy (still a little narrow since they are the original frames from the 60s), and the carpet has little boxes of popcorn and bottles of cola on it. You really feel like you're going to a nice theatre, as it appeared in say the late 80s/early 90s, but with current/up to date technology and comfier seats. And they do this for 4.50-6$ a ticket.
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