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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Apr 15, 2019 15:32:16 GMT
You know, I have to admit that it looks good... But I still barely care. They probably should've just let JJ make all three so we'd have some consistency. And WHY are we on a desert planet again?! JJ is obsessed with Tatooine! (But who isn't?) The truth is that this series is broken. And this will likely be a big retcon mess On a side note, I recently watched The Founder, which tells the story of how Ray Krock stole the McDonald's drive ins from the original founders and then turned them into a successful, but far inferior empire. That is what Disney is doing with Lucas' Star Wars. And just like McDonalds, people eat it up regardless of quality. Get the F outta here - the prequels were terrible. You weirdo prequel fans and your revisionist history. You never even gave the new ones a chance. The second Disney bought the series, you were out - as if Lucas was still small small independent underdog. Lucas "sold out" decades ago. He milked the franchise years before Disney ever did. Books, toys, video games, it never ends (and still doesn't). That was all Lucas. It's one thing to not like a movie. That's perfectly fine and well within your rights. But all this "Disney's Star Wars" nonsense is just that: complete and utter nonsense. There's no merit to it. You people have this bizarre blind loyalty to Lucas and anti-Disney opinion that borders on cult like. The acting and effects alone are better than the prequels; which is sad since Lucas was once a visual innovator. If all you said was you didn't like the new ones and laid out reasons why, I'd accept it. But all this Lucas vs. Disney crap, nope. No validity to that statement. He sucks. He's sucked since the 90s. The man hasn't made (or been involved in) a good movie since Willow. Revisionist history? Retconned? LOL! You have the gall to say Lucas was just about toys when Disney floods the market with so many toys that they're literally falling off of the shelves? Lol. And don't get me started with Disney SW. The mythos has been severely watered down and bastardized. The rehash and nostalgia has been so thick you couldn't cut it with a chainsaw. The characterizations have been horrible: - Luke Skywalker was teased as a star in TFA. Then became a 3 minute tease for the next episode. Then became a character who was totally devoid of his original characterization in every canon and non-canon story of him previously. Lol - Captain Phasma: TC-14 in a chrome Stormtrooper outfit - Finn: A cowardly, comedy relief stooge who only grows a spine when pining for Rey in some over the top fashion. Anyone trying to retcon his character as a believable rogue Stormtrooper is just volunteering to be a Disney shill and embarrassing themselves at the same time. - Rey: checks every Disney warrior princess box including the way she uses (and her relationship with) the Force. Every (so-called) genius fanfic explanation to retcon her Disney magic into plausible Force mythos has been embarrassingly exposed as a fraud. - Yoda: showed up for a cameo just to say that everything he ever said or taught about the Force was wrong. The Force doesn't need training or explaining. Rey is an invincible, omnipotent Force goddess because... she just is. - Hux: started out as an ambitious (wet behind the ears) schemer in TFA, only to turn into a stooge in TLJ. Tarkin would be rolling over in his grave if he could see that this is what the top brass has sunk to. I could go on about some of the other characterizations but... theirs may not be written in stone yet, depending on what happens in episode IX.
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Apr 15, 2019 15:44:59 GMT
Looks like it could be better than TLJ at least. Looks like it could be promising and exciting. But hasn't every Disney SW trailer done that? Only to find out after seeing the movie that there was some shell gaming going on in the trailers?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2019 17:09:55 GMT
I'm not even a fan of the prequels. Yes, Lucas sold out by creating the SE and obsessing with toys, but he was still the original creator and the prequels, regardless of quality still had a soul. Disney Star Wars is cash grab garbage, thrown together without a plan or a vision. It has no creative integrity and is as hollow and corporate a product as you will ever see.
Yeah, there's some really deep and meaningful stuff here:
As I said, I don't even like the prequels, yet you respond as if I do. And it's painfully obvious why- you can't compare the sequels to the originals because you know they don't hold a candle. Your replies are just obnoxious and devoid of any intelligence whatsoever. I don't know why it's taken me so long to put you on ignore, but here goes... Bye bye asshole!
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Post by audiosane on Apr 15, 2019 18:09:49 GMT
Looks like it could be better than TLJ at least. Looks like it could be promising and exciting. But hasn't every Disney SW trailer done that? Only to find out after seeing the movie that there was some shell gaming going on in the trailers? Hmm. What if TROS was as good as TFA? Is that good enough for you?
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Apr 15, 2019 18:44:15 GMT
I like how any criticism or anything negative towards the Sequel films is met with "THE PREQUEL FILMS SUCK!!!111" like it's some kind of trump card.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Apr 15, 2019 18:50:52 GMT
I like how any criticism or anything negative towards the Sequel films is met with "THE PREQUEL FILMS SUCK!!!111" like it's some kind of trump card. With the added irony that TLJ was so similar to the prequels, it might as well be one. Too dark, too boring, too much CGI, too much lame humor. Are we absolutely sure GL didn't direct it?
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Apr 15, 2019 19:09:41 GMT
Looks like it could be better than TLJ at least. Looks like it could be promising and exciting. But hasn't every Disney SW trailer done that? Only to find out after seeing the movie that there was some shell gaming going on in the trailers? Hmm. What if TROS was as good as TFA? Is that good enough for you? TFA was ANH rehashed all over again. It extremely relied on a retelling of ANH. The initial opening was somewhat original, but after that... Jakku was just Tattoine. BB8 was R2 crossing the desert. Rey was Luke finding R2 and dreaming of being a pilot. Rey leaves after her home is destroyed by Stormtroopers (just like Luke). On the Millennium Falcon (to find Solo instead of with Solo). At least the middle is little original with the cantina being on Takadonna instead of Jakku, Rey dream sequence, etc. Then the third act is once again a copy-and-paste ripoff of ANH. A lot of fans give it a pass because it more than delivered in bringing back original trilogy SW style and themes. TFA original storylines sucked though: who are the knights of Ren, who are Rey's parents, who is Snoke, why does Finn flip, how does Kylo talk to Vader's helmet, where is Luke? All unanswered or with disappointing results. So it would have to be better than TFA... more than TFA. It would have to be a little more original, not such a ROTJ ripoff. And it would have to do something TFA didn't. Answer storylines and plots or end them in a satisfying fashion.
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Post by kuatorises on Apr 16, 2019 13:22:57 GMT
Get the F outta here - the prequels were terrible. You weirdo prequel fans and your revisionist history. You never even gave the new ones a chance. The second Disney bought the series, you were out - as if Lucas was still small small independent underdog. Lucas "sold out" decades ago. He milked the franchise years before Disney ever did. Books, toys, video games, it never ends (and still doesn't). That was all Lucas. It's one thing to not like a movie. That's perfectly fine and well within your rights. But all this "Disney's Star Wars" nonsense is just that: complete and utter nonsense. There's no merit to it. You people have this bizarre blind loyalty to Lucas and anti-Disney opinion that borders on cult like. The acting and effects alone are better than the prequels; which is sad since Lucas was once a visual innovator. If all you said was you didn't like the new ones and laid out reasons why, I'd accept it. But all this Lucas vs. Disney crap, nope. No validity to that statement. He sucks. He's sucked since the 90s. The man hasn't made (or been involved in) a good movie since Willow. Revisionist history? Retconned? LOL! You have the gall to say Lucas was just about toys when Disney floods the market with so many toys that they're literally falling off of the shelves? Lol. And don't get me started with Disney SW. The mythos has been severely watered down and bastardized. The rehash and nostalgia has been so thick you couldn't cut it with a chainsaw. The characterizations have been horrible: - Luke Skywalker was teased as a star in TFA. Then became a 3 minute tease for the next episode. Then became a character who was totally devoid of his original characterization in every canon and non-canon story of him previously. Lol - Captain Phasma: TC-14 in a chrome Stormtrooper outfit - Finn: A cowardly, comedy relief stooge who only grows a spine when pining for Rey in some over the top fashion. Anyone trying to retcon his character as a believable rogue Stormtrooper is just volunteering to be a Disney shill and embarrassing themselves at the same time. - Rey: checks every Disney warrior princess box including the way she uses (and her relationship with) the Force. Every (so-called) genius fanfic explanation to retcon her Disney magic into plausible Force mythos has been embarrassingly exposed as a fraud. - Yoda: showed up for a cameo just to say that everything he ever said or taught about the Force was wrong. The Force doesn't need training or explaining. Rey is an invincible, omnipotent Force goddess because... she just is. - Hux: started out as an ambitious (wet behind the ears) schemer in TFA, only to turn into a stooge in TLJ. Tarkin would be rolling over in his grave if he could see that this is what the top brass has sunk to. I could go on about some of the other characterizations but... theirs may not be written in stone yet, depending on what happens in episode IX. I don't read anything you say.
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Post by kuatorises on Apr 16, 2019 13:35:26 GMT
Yeah, there's some really deep and meaningful stuff here:
As I said, I don't even like the prequels, yet you respond as if I do. And it's painfully obvious why- you can't compare the sequels to the originals because you know they don't hold a candle. Your replies are just obnoxious and devoid of any intelligence whatsoever. I don't know why it's taken me so long to put you on ignore, but here goes... Bye bye asshole! And as I said, you're a liar. You can't go one sentence in your criticism of the new movies without bringing up Lucas or the prequels. These are not the words of someone who "doesn't even like the prequels" :
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Post by kuatorises on Apr 16, 2019 13:39:04 GMT
I like how any criticism or anything negative towards the Sequel films is met with "THE PREQUEL FILMS SUCK!!!111" like it's some kind of trump card. Akbar actually brought the comparison up first:
Can't stop praising "the maker" now can we?
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Post by Waxer-n-boil on Apr 17, 2019 17:29:44 GMT
Revisionist history? Retconned? LOL! You have the gall to say Lucas was just about toys when Disney floods the market with so many toys that they're literally falling off of the shelves? Lol. And don't get me started with Disney SW. The mythos has been severely watered down and bastardized. The rehash and nostalgia has been so thick you couldn't cut it with a chainsaw. The characterizations have been horrible: - Luke Skywalker was teased as a star in TFA. Then became a 3 minute tease for the next episode. Then became a character who was totally devoid of his original characterization in every canon and non-canon story of him previously. Lol - Captain Phasma: TC-14 in a chrome Stormtrooper outfit - Finn: A cowardly, comedy relief stooge who only grows a spine when pining for Rey in some over the top fashion. Anyone trying to retcon his character as a believable rogue Stormtrooper is just volunteering to be a Disney shill and embarrassing themselves at the same time. - Rey: checks every Disney warrior princess box including the way she uses (and her relationship with) the Force. Every (so-called) genius fanfic explanation to retcon her Disney magic into plausible Force mythos has been embarrassingly exposed as a fraud. - Yoda: showed up for a cameo just to say that everything he ever said or taught about the Force was wrong. The Force doesn't need training or explaining. Rey is an invincible, omnipotent Force goddess because... she just is. - Hux: started out as an ambitious (wet behind the ears) schemer in TFA, only to turn into a stooge in TLJ. Tarkin would be rolling over in his grave if he could see that this is what the top brass has sunk to. I could go on about some of the other characterizations but... theirs may not be written in stone yet, depending on what happens in episode IX. I don't read anything you say. Of course you don't, little prequel hater. You know that you can't refute it. So go ahead and close your eyes and stick your fingers in your ears. Or go back to binge watching Mr. Plinkett's prequel reviews for 12 hours a day. Lol
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Post by Hauntedknight87 on Apr 17, 2019 18:20:33 GMT
I like how any criticism or anything negative towards the Sequel films is met with "THE PREQUEL FILMS SUCK!!!111" like it's some kind of trump card. Akbar actually brought the comparison up first:
Can't stop praising "the maker" now can we?
I'm a Atheist, Why would I?
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Post by kleinreturns on Apr 17, 2019 18:28:38 GMT
I can’t wait to see Palpatine floating through space just like Leia in TLJ LOL or what about a lightsaber dual in the vacuum of space.
But in honest Jar Jar Abrams looks like his is ripping off ROTJ BIG TIME HERE.
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Post by kleinreturns on Apr 17, 2019 18:34:03 GMT
I like how any criticism or anything negative towards the Sequel films is met with "THE PREQUEL FILMS SUCK!!!111" like it's some kind of trump card. With the added irony that TLJ was so similar to the prequels, it might as well be one. Too dark, too boring, too much CGI, too much lame humor. Are we absolutely sure GL didn't direct it? Please stop with that. Disney, Jar JAr Abrams, KK and Rian Johnson are to blame for TLJ.
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Post by kuatorises on Apr 23, 2019 18:01:58 GMT
I can’t wait to see Palpatine floating through space just like Leia in TLJ LOL or what about a lightsaber dual in the vacuum of space.
But in honest Jar Jar Abrams looks like his is ripping off ROTJ BIG TIME HERE.
This was really cool though:
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