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Post by hehatesshe on Apr 22, 2019 4:26:14 GMT
And I don't do it ever, but I intend to watch the first 2 episodes of this season next week before episode 3. I imagine all the hellos from 1 and the goodbyes from 2 will enhance the drama from 3. Who do you think is going to buy it?
They spent so much time on Jaime I can't help but wonder if that's 'it' for him, plus we saw his golden hand in the rubble in a trailer. Then there's Bran's attitude towards him and the question about 'afterward' as well as Jaime's heroic tendencies make me wonder if Jaime dies saving Bran, who supposedly has some predestination ability if I recall correctly. Brienne warmed to Tormund as well this ep, so that might become a possibility if Jaime were gone...
It doesn't look good for Jorah either, he was alone during the montage and Lyanna wished him well and he spoke up for Tyrion, plus Sam's sword will probably come back to him to give to Little Sam someday...
Theon is probably toast, perhaps dying with Jaime to save Bran.
Who else?
Oh man, I have no idea. Next week is gonna suck...
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Post by hehatesshe on Apr 22, 2019 4:31:17 GMT
He told her she'd 'stripped' him. She seems to know more than Gendry said. I’ll have to watch again. But there’s the old theory that the Waif killed Arya and someone is using her face. Ayra looked to be bleeding out. Maybe not. I was reminded of what Robert said to Ned way back in Season One “I have a son you have a daughter. Let’s wed the and join our houses.” Well, she knew the red woman wanted him, she was there when he was sold. He said she tied him up and stripped him down. Arya put the pieces together.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 22, 2019 4:45:04 GMT
He told her she'd 'stripped' him. She seems to know more than Gendry said. I’ll have to watch again. But there’s the old theory that the Waif killed Arya and someone is using her face. Ayra looked to be bleeding out. Maybe not. I was reminded of what Robert said to Ned way back in Season One “I have a son you have a daughter. Let’s wed the and join our houses.” She started to strip him and then stopped and delivered that line, I took it as her not wanting to be like Melisandre who was on her list for a while.
That was just poor stunt choreography, they went for the puncture wound-- perhaps because they thought it looked cooler--but treated it like an incised wound otherwise in the script. It's a neat idea but too much of Arya's return to Westeros is dependent on Arya being Arya. Why would the Faceless Men kill every single last male Frey? Or know who Hotpie is?
They both have to live if Robert's line is going to be meaningful so I hope you're right.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 22, 2019 4:55:20 GMT
I rated this episode 9 and I found it absolutely awesome. There were so many nice moments.
Which one scene stole the show for me? There are so many that I can't even decide. The whole thing was so relevant and so well shot. The reunions were fantastic. How Tyrion looked when the Walkers were sighted first!
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Post by Marendil on Apr 22, 2019 4:56:38 GMT
Who do you think is going to buy it?
They spent so much time on Jaime I can't help but wonder if that's 'it' for him, plus we saw his golden hand in the rubble in a trailer. Then there's Bran's attitude towards him and the question about 'afterward' as well as Jaime's heroic tendencies make me wonder if Jaime dies saving Bran, who supposedly has some predestination ability if I recall correctly. Brienne warmed to Tormund as well this ep, so that might become a possibility if Jaime were gone...
It doesn't look good for Jorah either, he was alone during the montage and Lyanna wished him well and he spoke up for Tyrion, plus Sam's sword will probably come back to him to give to Little Sam someday...
Theon is probably toast, perhaps dying with Jaime to save Bran.
Who else?
Oh man, I have no idea. Next week is gonna suck... I know, I gotta stop watching these shows which rely overmuch on dramatic deaths, but so many of them are so good otherwise and they don't suck you in by telling you upfront it's going to be a bloodbath at the end of each season...
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Post by TheGoodMan19 on Apr 22, 2019 5:10:14 GMT
She seems to know more than Gendry said. I’ll have to watch again. But there’s the old theory that the Waif killed Arya and someone is using her face. Ayra looked to be bleeding out. Maybe not. I was reminded of what Robert said to Ned way back in Season One “I have a son you have a daughter. Let’s wed the and join our houses.” She started to strip him and then stopped and delivered that line, I took it as her not wanting to be like Melisandre who was on her list for a while.
That was just poor stunt choreography, they went for the puncture wound-- perhaps because they thought it looked cooler--but treated it like an incised wound otherwise in the script. It's a neat idea but too much of Arya's return to Westeros is dependent on Arya being Arya. Why would the Faceless Men kill every single last male Frey? Or know who Hotpie is?
They both have to live if Robert's line is going to be meaningful so I hope you're right.
I never quite got the whole Faceless Men thing. I would imagine it’s more than just a mask. Do you get the personality of the person, the memories? and I have to think the whole Faceless Men thing is more than its been so far. All that just so Arya could kill Merwyn Trant and Walder Frey, two characters who would have faded away anyhow.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 22, 2019 6:45:24 GMT
She started to strip him and then stopped and delivered that line, I took it as her not wanting to be like Melisandre who was on her list for a while.
That was just poor stunt choreography, they went for the puncture wound-- perhaps because they thought it looked cooler--but treated it like an incised wound otherwise in the script. It's a neat idea but too much of Arya's return to Westeros is dependent on Arya being Arya. Why would the Faceless Men kill every single last male Frey? Or know who Hotpie is?
They both have to live if Robert's line is going to be meaningful so I hope you're right.
I never quite got the whole Faceless Men thing. I would imagine it’s more than just a mask. Do you get the personality of the person, the memories? and I have to think the whole Faceless Men thing is more than its been so far. All that just so Arya could kill Merwyn Trant and Walder Frey, two characters who would have faded away anyhow. Frankly at this juncture I suspect for show purposes the Faceless Men will only amount to a vehicle to turn Arya into a badass in time for the end. As for the details of how it works there's what Arya intimidates Sansa with last season but also that scene at the end of season five that makes even less sense the more I think on it. It's after Arya kills Trant and the one appearing as Jaqen supposedly drinks poison and then another shows up as Jaqen and Arya starts peeling faces off the 'dead' one and comes to her own. So the face magic works for dead people and they can have multiple ones? You don't have to be dead to be imitated like Arya was in that scene? More than one person can wear the same face at the same time?
It has the rancid reek of something they didn't think all the way through.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Apr 22, 2019 7:07:53 GMT
I'd give it a 6. All the reunions and character moments started to feel a little forced. But it wasn't bad.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 22, 2019 7:40:00 GMT
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 22, 2019 7:46:36 GMT
I never quite got the whole Faceless Men thing. I would imagine it’s more than just a mask. Do you get the personality of the person, the memories? and I have to think the whole Faceless Men thing is more than its been so far. All that just so Arya could kill Merwyn Trant and Walder Frey, two characters who would have faded away anyhow. Frankly at this juncture I suspect for show purposes the Faceless Men will only amount to a vehicle to turn Arya into a badass in time for the end. As for the details of how it works there's what Arya intimidates Sansa with last season but also that scene at the end of season five that makes even less sense the more I think on it. It's after Arya kills Trant and the one appearing as Jaqen supposedly drinks poison and then another shows up as Jaqen and Arya starts peeling faces off the 'dead' one and comes to her own. So the face magic works for dead people and they can have multiple ones? You don't have to be dead to be imitated like Arya was in that scene? More than one person can wear the same face at the same time? It has the rancid reek of something they didn't think all the way through.
This, as all magic in the story, is merely a means to portray the characters' evolution in personality and lead them to making choices. In this case, we see Arya's flirt with the idea of death and her potential return from the extreme she fell into. Adult viewers brush off the sloppy technical aspects while belated kids keep discussing them over and over. The fools at Blind Wave were indulging in this. They were the first reaction channel I watched and left aside in the middle for that reason.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 22, 2019 9:24:21 GMT
Frankly at this juncture I suspect for show purposes the Faceless Men will only amount to a vehicle to turn Arya into a badass in time for the end. As for the details of how it works there's what Arya intimidates Sansa with last season but also that scene at the end of season five that makes even less sense the more I think on it. It's after Arya kills Trant and the one appearing as Jaqen supposedly drinks poison and then another shows up as Jaqen and Arya starts peeling faces off the 'dead' one and comes to her own. So the face magic works for dead people and they can have multiple ones? You don't have to be dead to be imitated like Arya was in that scene? More than one person can wear the same face at the same time? It has the rancid reek of something they didn't think all the way through.
This, as all magic in the story, is merely a means to portray the characters' evolution in personality and lead them to making choices. In this case, we see Arya's flirt with the idea of death and her potential return from the extreme she fell into. Adult viewers brush off the sloppy technical aspects while belated kids keep discussing them over and over. The fools at Blind Wave were indulging in this. They were the first reaction channel I watched and left aside in the middle for that reason. Consistent portrayals of this sort of thing give evidence as to the kind of mind(s) behind the story and occasionally insight can be gleaned from it, but there are definitely those who can't let it go.
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Post by DSDSquared on Apr 22, 2019 12:10:56 GMT
Incredible episode that reminded me of seasons 1-4. There has not been an episode like this since that relied so much on good dialogue and character moments. It seemed like a farewell type of episode for many of the characters. Next week is going to be insane.
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Post by kevin on Apr 22, 2019 12:15:23 GMT
Incredible episode that reminded me of seasons 1-4. There has not been an episode like this since that relied so much on good dialogue and character moments. It seemed like a farewell type of episode for many of the characters. Next week is going to be insane. Agreed. I see a bit of backlash on IMDb from people who wanted more 'action' this episode, but I think that when all is said and done this will stand as one of the better episodes of the show. If there are really a lot deaths next episode, this episode will probably be even more emotional upon a rewatch.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Apr 22, 2019 14:20:22 GMT
I gave the episode a 9 as well ,i did like characters had some light hearted moments something tells me will be last time some of these characters interact with each other or laugh again i suspect a lot of them wont make it seems some people got what they wanted before they leave the world or loose someone they love
ARYA/Gendry , arya wanted to know what is like to have sex before dooms day comes , i do not think gendry will make it if its arya who doesnt will be even more shocking -
Brienne sticking up for jamie sansa allowing jamie to stay Dany being ticked off at jon for siding with sansa to spare jamie actually jon walked out of the room with sansa LOL
Dany being angry at tyrion like i suspected she would be, jorah convincing her to keep him her hand , and furthermore convincing her to talk to sansa looks like they were getting along for a few minutes until sansa brought up the north and what will happen to them after battle IF they defeat the NK once again dany proved shes nice as long as you go along with her as soon as you question her or her power she gets all defensive again
their conversation was the most interesting to me which confirmed political jon which sansa realised it
Dany: … and yet I couldn’t help but feel we’re odds with one another. Why is that? Your brother.
Sansa: He loves you, you know that.
Dany: That bothers you.
Sansa: Men do stupid things for women. They’re easily manipulated.
D@ny: “All my life I’ve known one goal, the Iron Throne. Taking it back from the people who almost destroyed my family. Now I’m here […] fighting JON’s war alongside him. Tell me who manipulated whom.”
Sansa:
ME : LMAO because pretty much dany got exposed in that discussion she is only there for jon's war and NOT to actually help the north as she was claiming all along.
other moments i loved theon/sansa reuniting
brienne finally getting what she wants
most disgusting moment tormund and all his talk about breast milk and drinking milk YUCK i had a squeezy stomach from lenting too didnt go well for me grossed me out
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 22, 2019 14:26:40 GMT
D@ny: “All my life I’ve known one goal, the Iron Throne. Taking it back from the people who almost destroyed my family. Now I’m here […] fighting JON’s war alongside him. Tell me who manipulated whom.” Sansa: ME : LMAO because pretty much dany got exposed in that discussion she is only there for jon's war and NOT to actually help the north as she was claiming all along. Daenerys is a dumb slut doing things for a man she wants. Cersei did things to preserve her own life and that of those she cared for. There is no end to the infamy of Daenerys fans.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 22, 2019 15:06:42 GMT
So who do we know for sure will survive this battle? Is it only: Jon Dany Sansa Jaime Hound Is everyone else's death on the table? I suppose Bran, too. The only ones I know for sure are Jon and Jaime.
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Post by kevin on Apr 22, 2019 15:11:29 GMT
So who do we know for sure will survive this battle? Is it only: Jon Dany Sansa Jaime Hound Is everyone else's death on the table? I suppose Bran, too. My prediction on a 1 - 5 scale with 1 being safe and 5 almost certain death: 5: Grey Worm, Beric, Tormund 4: Gendry, Theon, Davos, Jorah, Edd, Ghost 3: Pod, Bran, Lyanna, Missandei 2: Sam, Gilly, The Hound, Brienne, Varys 1: Jon, Dany, Sansa, Arya, Jaime, Tyrion, Cersei, Euron (a significant number of these characters will die, but I guess it'll happen in ep 4 - 6) One thought I had is that maybe the Night King is going further South with his dragon to King's Landing, since we haven't seen him in the episode or the promo. In that case Cersei, Euron etc. could be in bigger danger, but I'm keeping the list like this for now. I'm pretty sure the crypt itself is screwed considering the number of times they've mentioned it. Still, I assume characters like Sansa & Sam will survive. Maybe they'd kill Sam, Gilly and/or Varys, but that would be a big shocker for me. If that happens and if Bran dies or if something else happens to him, no one with proof of Jon's heritage would be left.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Apr 22, 2019 15:17:44 GMT
So who do we know for sure will survive this battle? Is it only: Jon Dany Sansa Jaime Hound Is everyone else's death on the table? I suppose Bran, too. The only ones I know for sure are Jon and Jaime. sansa will survive because there is a scene of her in the trailer that hasnt beeen aired yet and it doesnt look like a battle scene plus if she was going to die they would have more scenes with her arya, jon etc.. if another stark dies would be bran he is highest candidate than arya although they could do something shocking and got for arya , there is a scene jon pulling out his sword near the godstree where bran is supposed to be waiting for the NK so either NK got bran and jon will end the NK or something more sadder happens and jon will have to kill bran ( has no choice ) . I have also seen jon scenes in the trailer with dany that are after battle so they do survive , the rest i do not know .The lannister brothers fate will be determined i think by bronn, either bronn misses and doesnt kill the brothers betrays cersei command or kidnaps either tyrion or sansa and bring them as gifts to cersei , there are pictures jon going to cersei so he would not be there if there was not a valid reason.
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Post by Marv on Apr 23, 2019 0:33:46 GMT
If i had to make mine....
My prediction on a 1 - 5 scale with 1 being safe and 5 almost certain death:
5: Grey Worm, Beric, Edd, Gilly, Theon
4: Gendry, Jorah, Ghost, Tormund, Bran
3: Pod, Lyanna, Missandei, Jaime, Varys, Night King
2: Sam, The Hound, Brienne, Davos
1: Jon, Dany, Sansa, Arya, Tyrion, Cersei, Euron
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Post by shinnickneth on Apr 23, 2019 5:47:08 GMT
Title is "The Rightful Queen". Mistake; title is "A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms" Where did you get that title from? I'm just curious as I've seen others make that claim as well.
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