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Post by kevin on Apr 22, 2019 9:18:36 GMT
8.03: The Long Night
Synopsis: The Night King and his army have arrived at the Winterfell and the great battle begins.
Director: Miguel Sapochnik
IMDb rating: 9.5
IMDb v2.0: 8.5
RT rating: 80% (9.0 average rating)
After 69 episodes of build-up, we're finally here at what seems to be the climactic fight with the White Walkers. The episode is said to contain the biggest battle in movie/tv history, even beating the enormous battle at Helm's Deep in The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers. The episode is directed by Miguel Sapochnik, arguably the show's greatest director, who already made 4 episodes before this one: The Gift, Hardhome, Battle of the Bastards & The Winds of Winter. The episode is written by David Benioff & D.B. Weiss, who so far have written all of Sapochnik's episodes, so it seems it's a very good collaboration. Cinematography is done by Sapochnik's regular collaborator Fabian Wagner, who is most famous for his Game of Thrones episodes and multiple Sherlock episodes he shot. What do you expect to happen this episode? Knowing Game of Thrones, something unexpected will happen. Who will die, who will survive and what will the outcome of the battle be?
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 22, 2019 9:52:07 GMT
I don't know who will die but I'm expecting a large segment of the cast to be killed off. People that I think are mostly at risk is Grey Worm, Jaime, Brienne, Tormund, Beric Dondarrion, Gendry, Podrick, Jorah and Theon.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 22, 2019 10:00:20 GMT
I don't know who will die but I'm expecting a large segment of the cast to be killed off. People that I think are mostly at risk is Grey Worm, Jaime, Brienne, Tormund, Beric Dondarrion, Gendry, Podrick, Jorah and Theon. Why does everyone seem to think Grey Worm is doomed?
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Post by Winter_King on Apr 22, 2019 10:01:54 GMT
I don't know who will die but I'm expecting a large segment of the cast to be killed off. People that I think are mostly at risk is Grey Worm, Jaime, Brienne, Tormund, Beric Dondarrion, Gendry, Podrick, Jorah and Theon. Why does everyone seem to think Grey Worm is doomed?
Mostly because he is not a major character in the show and can be considered cannon fodder.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 22, 2019 10:49:06 GMT
Brienne will make it. They must show that you can give women a man's job and that they won't be killed.
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Post by DSDSquared on Apr 22, 2019 11:55:19 GMT
I think Arya, Brienne, Sansa, and Jaime live through this battle. I think Theon and Bran are gone for sure. Multiple other cast members will dies too. Episode Two was almost like a farewell episode for many characters. I loved it, personally. It had some amazing character moments.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 22, 2019 12:12:44 GMT
I think Arya, Brienne, Sansa, and Jaime live through this battle. I think Theon and Bran are gone for sure. Multiple other cast members will dies too. Episode Two was almost like a farewell episode for many characters. I loved it, personally. It had some amazing character moments. I tend to agree but do not think Bran will be gone. I still think he is the one who will solve the Night King and there needs to be something left to do in the remaining three episodes.
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Post by DSDSquared on Apr 22, 2019 12:16:53 GMT
I think Arya, Brienne, Sansa, and Jaime live through this battle. I think Theon and Bran are gone for sure. Multiple other cast members will dies too. Episode Two was almost like a farewell episode for many characters. I loved it, personally. It had some amazing character moments. I tend to agree but do not think Bran will be gone. I still think he is the one who will solve the Night King and there needs to be something left to do in the remaining three episodes. I kind of predicted the first two episodes and knew episode three would be a huge battle. The exciting part about this season is I have no idea what will happen in episode 4-6. Will the Night King win next week and Dany and her forces retreat to the Iron Islands? It seemed to be setting up for that? Or they could actually win but suffer significant losses, allowing Cersei to swoop in and take control. That would be interesting and unexpected. The unknown of the last few episodes is exciting to me.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 22, 2019 12:19:52 GMT
I tend to agree but do not think Bran will be gone. I still think he is the one who will solve the Night King and there needs to be something left to do in the remaining three episodes. I kind of predicted the first two episodes and knew episode three would be a huge battle. The exciting part about this season is I have no idea what will happen in episode 4-6. Will the Night King win next week and Dany and her forces retreat to the Iron Islands? It seemed to be setting up for that? Or they could actually win but suffer significant losses, allowing Cersei to swoop in and take control. That would be interesting and unexpected. The unknown of the last few episodes is exciting to me. That's a fair guess. Yes, defeat, retreat and consolidation are what I expect. Then Jon will go to Cersei.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 22, 2019 12:33:11 GMT
I kind of predicted the first two episodes and knew episode three would be a huge battle. The exciting part about this season is I have no idea what will happen in episode 4-6. Will the Night King win next week and Dany and her forces retreat to the Iron Islands? It seemed to be setting up for that? Or they could actually win but suffer significant losses, allowing Cersei to swoop in and take control. That would be interesting and unexpected. The unknown of the last few episodes is exciting to me. That's a fair guess. Yes, defeat, retreat and consolidation are what I expect. Then Jon will go to Cersei.
Ya know...it kinda looks like Cersei is checking out Jon's package....
Or she's contemplating surrender, the head down like that isn't often indicative of someone projecting a position of power.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 22, 2019 12:52:50 GMT
Jon: "I thought I loved her, I really did…"
Cersei: "Yes, well, let's not be too judgemental of youthful illusions."
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Post by sdm3 on Apr 22, 2019 13:03:35 GMT
I have a feeling the Winterfell crew will prove victorious largely because the Night King himself won’t be there. In a display of tactics we’ve seen several times on this show, he’ll send some of his forces against Winterfell as a diversion and take the bulk of his army down to King’s Landing. That’ll leave the surviving characters having to go down to face him in the final 3 episodes - allowing for things like CleganeBowl, the Lannister siblings’ final meeting etc.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 22, 2019 13:25:28 GMT
I have a feeling the Winterfell crew will prove victorious largely because the Night King himself won’t be there. In a display of tactics we’ve seen several times on this show, he’ll send some of his forces against Winterfell as a diversion and take the bulk of his army down to King’s Landing. That’ll leave the surviving characters having to go down to face him in the final 3 episodes - allowing for things like CleganeBowl, the Lannister siblings’ final meeting etc. Ah....Cersei will be delicious as the Night Queen .
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 22, 2019 13:43:21 GMT
I think Arya, Brienne, Sansa, and Jaime live through this battle. I think Theon and Bran are gone for sure. Multiple other cast members will dies too. Episode Two was almost like a farewell episode for many characters. I loved it, personally. It had some amazing character moments. Forgive my silliness. But didn't Bran say that they want to target him? So what do they want to do to Bran? Erase his memory so that entire humanity turns into wights or white walkers at once? Or just kill him to gain complete control? If the later then Bran probably cannot die. Because his death might mean victory for the Walkers.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 22, 2019 16:58:15 GMT
I think Arya, Brienne, Sansa, and Jaime live through this battle. I think Theon and Bran are gone for sure. Multiple other cast members will dies too. Episode Two was almost like a farewell episode for many characters. I loved it, personally. It had some amazing character moments. Forgive my silliness. But didn't Bran say that they want to target him? So what do they want to do to Bran? Erase his memory so that entire humanity turns into wights or white walkers at once? Or just kill him to gain complete control? If the later then Bran probably cannot die. Because his death might mean victory for the Walkers. He has access to the memories of all humanity and the Night King wants to destroy all vestiges of human life and the supposition is it's our memories and history that differentiate us from animals. So killing him is their aim.
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Post by kevin on Apr 22, 2019 17:44:11 GMT
An overview of all the episode ratings from IMDb v2.0 for Game of Thrones. We only have ratings for season 7 & 8, since the forum didn't exist before then. | Episode | Title | Rating | | S07E01 | Dragonstone | 7.7 | | S07E02 | Stormborn | 7.1 | | S07E03 | The Queen's Justice | 7.3 | | S07E04 | The Spoils of War | 8.4 | | S07E05 | Eastwatch | 7.3 | | S07E06 | Beyond the Wall | 7.8 | | S07E07 | The Dragon and the Wolf | 8.6 | | S08E01 | Winterfell | 7.4 | | S08E02 | A Knight of the Seven Kingdoms | 8.9 |
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Post by kevin on Apr 22, 2019 18:31:43 GMT
I analysed the season 8 trailer and this is what I got:
*The trailer is 102 seconds long in total.
*From this, 73 seconds (72%) have already been shown in episode 1 and 2.
*Another 28 seconds (27%) logically is from the big battle at episode 3, since these night scenes don't seem fitting in a later episode.
These are:
- Arya running through Winterfell.
- A shot of the people hiding in the crypts of Winterfell.
- Multiple shots of the battle at Winterfell.
- A dragon breathing fire during the night.
- Jaime fighting on a battlefield during the night.
I would make sense for all of these scenes to take place in episode 3.
*This means that only 1 second of the trailer (1%) is from episodes 4 - 6. This concerns a shot of Tyrion looking up while he's walking on sand (perhaps a beach, Dragonstone?). Maybe they cut the shot in the actual episodes, but I can't see it happening in episode 3 already.
*So, in conclusion, literally 99% of the trailer for season 8 is most likely from episodes 1 - 3.
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Post by DSDSquared on Apr 22, 2019 18:59:44 GMT
I analysed the season 8 trailer and this is what I got: *The trailer is 102 seconds long in total. *From this, 73 seconds (72%) has already been shown in episode 1 and 2. *Another 28 seconds (27%) logically is from the big battle at episode 3, since these night scenes don't seem fitting in a later episode. These are: - Arya running through Winterfell. - A shot of the people hiding in the crypts of Winterfell. - Multiple shots of the battle at Winterfell. - A dragon breathing fire during the night. - Jaime fighting on a battlefield during the night. I would make sense for all of these scenes to take place in episode 3. *This means that only 1 second of the trailer (1%) is from episodes 4 - 6. This concerns a shot of Tyrion looking up while he's walking on sand (perhaps a beach, Dragonstone?). Maybe they cut the shot in the actual episodes, but I can't see it happening in episode 3 already. *So, in conclusion, literally 99% of the trailer for season 8 is most likely from episodes 1 - 3. This makes sense. I have not read one spoiler but even I knew and predicted that episodes one and two would be setup episodes. They would be character and plot driven and there would be little to no action. Then episode three would be the huge battle at Winterfell between the Night King and our heroes. This episode is the longest and most expensive of the series. This has been predicted and mapped out for the better part of a year. However, I have NO idea what is going to happen afterwards and no one does. This is what is crazy, they have not even given a hint in the trailers. I love this.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 25, 2019 5:14:42 GMT
Forgive my silliness. But didn't Bran say that they want to target him? So what do they want to do to Bran? Erase his memory so that entire humanity turns into wights or white walkers at once? Or just kill him to gain complete control? If the later then Bran probably cannot die. Because his death might mean victory for the Walkers. He has access to the memories of all humanity and the Night King wants to destroy all vestiges of human life and the supposition is it's our memories and history that differentiate us from animals. So killing him is their aim. Yeah, so if that is true (and it seems like it is correct interpretation) then we can be rather confident that Bran will survive the next episode.
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Post by Marendil on Apr 25, 2019 5:56:47 GMT
He has access to the memories of all humanity and the Night King wants to destroy all vestiges of human life and the supposition is it's our memories and history that differentiate us from animals. So killing him is their aim.Yeah, so if that is true (and it seems like it is correct interpretation) then we can be rather confident that Bran will survive the next episode. What makes you say that? Bran can die and we'll still have our own memories and histories recorded in places like The Citadel; I think it's more along the lines that as long as Bran lives the Nght King's task cannot be complete.
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