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Post by Aj_June on Apr 24, 2019 15:59:46 GMT
That Cersei's only enemy is Dany is interpretation of Jonsa fans on tumblr. The vast majority of GOT fans do not believe in these views which give too much importance to Dany. All of them are Cersei's enemy. Sansa has repeatedly talked about how distrustful woman Cersei is. She hasn't done one good thing in her life and even says that she doesn't care about people. Cersei is not going to remain in power at the end of the show. And I can guarantee you that. The vast majority of GoT fans are young morons. The writers might write for them or not, but let's keep in mind that GRRM still claims the show brings his own ending so D&D are not twisting that. Would GRRM keep Cersei on the throne? Well, she is nowhere near being a major character in the books. She got a few point of view chapters from the 4th book only and he makes her so incompetent that she might well remain there as a drunken puppet while others rule over a limited kingdom in a fragmented Westeros. As to monarchic rulers having to do good things or care for the people, this is a story children want to be told but most certainly not the one GRRM writes. That the writer is an idiot or the show producers are twisting the characters according to taste of masses is not my problem. I am not here discussing whether Cersei is right or wrong or justified in doing things she did. I am just saying Dany is just another character in the show and she isn't only enemy of Cersei. Dany might not even survive. But all other characters including Jon, Sansa, Jaime and Arya are against Cersei and all of them have made themselves her enemy. Will Cersei survive? I don't know and probably don't care. But will she be in a ruling position? No, she won't. These producers are not going to give any such twist. If she does succeed in ruling position then get back to me. I will be the first to concede I was wrong in judging the show producers/writer.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Apr 24, 2019 15:59:47 GMT
cersei named her enemies early on in S7 1st episode and it didnt include only the north , dany is her main enemy , you could be right about the mountain but when qyburn said that i didnt take it as the mountain will finish off ALL of the queens enemies , he simply said he took a vow not to speak again until all the graces enemies are defeated there is a pattern i noticed on GOT by the time someone wants to kill someone they end up getting killed before getting their chance most of cerseis enemies already have been defeated or captured. That Cersei's only enemy is Dany is interpretation of Jonsa fans on tumblr. The vast majority of GOT fans do not believe in these views which give too much importance to Dany. All of them are Cersei's enemy. Sansa has repeatedly talked about how distrustful woman Cersei is. She hasn't done one good thing in her life and even says that she doesn't care about people. Cersei is not going to remain in power at the end of the show. And I can guarantee you that. AJ go on preach about fandoms please go back and re-read what i posted it has nothing to do with any fandom but facts "cersei named her enemies early on in S7 1st episode and it didnt include only the north , dany is her main enemy ,"
Never once did i say Dany is cerseis only enemy i said she is the main one , unless you know of any other who has 2 full grown dragons.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 24, 2019 16:02:08 GMT
That Cersei's only enemy is Dany is interpretation of Jonsa fans on tumblr. The vast majority of GOT fans do not believe in these views which give too much importance to Dany. All of them are Cersei's enemy. Sansa has repeatedly talked about how distrustful woman Cersei is. She hasn't done one good thing in her life and even says that she doesn't care about people. Cersei is not going to remain in power at the end of the show. And I can guarantee you that. AJ go on preach about fandoms please go back and re-read what i posted it has nothing to do with any fandom but facts "cersei named her enemies early on in S7 1st episode and it didnt include only the north , dany is her main enemy ,"
Never once did i say Dany is cerseis only enemy i said she is the main one , unless you know of any other who has 2 full grown dragons. And I am saying she ain't her main one. All of them are and your dislike for Dany is clouding your judgement. Cersei is not some jealous kind of person who takes special dislike for any when one person. You have totally misread her character. She sees people as useful to her or her enemy. The northern people are her enemy much the same way Dany is. And she is going to have to face them all.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Apr 24, 2019 16:06:31 GMT
AJ go on preach about fandoms please go back and re-read what i posted it has nothing to do with any fandom but facts "cersei named her enemies early on in S7 1st episode and it didnt include only the north , dany is her main enemy ,"
Never once did i say Dany is cerseis only enemy i said she is the main one , unless you know of any other who has 2 full grown dragons. And I am saying she ain't her main one. All of them are and your dislike for Dany is clouding your judgement. Cersei is not some jealous kind of person who takes special dislike for anyone. She sees people as useful to her or her enemy. The northern people are her enemy much the same way Dany is. not at all , my clouds are clear and so far what i have predicted on the show actually im 99% right so i say my judgments are fair.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 24, 2019 16:08:05 GMT
And I am saying she ain't her main one. All of them are and your dislike for Dany is clouding your judgement. Cersei is not some jealous kind of person who takes special dislike for anyone. She sees people as useful to her or her enemy. The northern people are her enemy much the same way Dany is. not at all , my clouds are clear and so far what i have predicted on the show actually im 99% right so i say my judgments are fair. So far the only thing that has happened is Jon fucking Dany. But It's okay if you believe that you are predicting things right.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Apr 24, 2019 16:12:22 GMT
not at all , my clouds are clear and so far what i have predicted on the show actually im 99% right so i say my judgments are fair. So far the only thing that has happened is Jon fucking Dany. But It's okay if you believe that you are predicting things right. And its ok for you to pretend you are not a jonerys fan i predicted jon/dany will hook up jons needs to save the north just like i predicted jon wont have any love for dany just like i predicted a dark dany just like i predicted she wont be happy to find out who he is , just like i predicted arya would hook up with gendry so i predicted most of the stuff
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 24, 2019 16:16:50 GMT
So far the only thing that has happened is Jon fucking Dany. But It's okay if you believe that you are predicting things right. And its ok for you to pretend you are not a jonerys fan i predicted jon/dany will hook up jons needs to save the north just like i predicted jon wont have any love for dany just like i predicted a dark dany just like i predicted she wont be happy to find out who he is , just like i predicted arya would hook up with gendry so i predicted most of the stuff Just because one is not a Jonsa fan he doesn't become a Jonerys fan. Most important thing Jonerys has already proved correct. Your whole argument rests on assumption that things will eventually change. Well, do get back to me when they change. I am sorry for you that Jonsa isn't happening. But the fact that you have turned everything about Dany is unbelievable. For most of us Dany is just another character. No more special than Arya, Sansa, Jaime, Bran etc etc. We do not interpret everything in the show based on super character Dany. If there is one character in the show who is more important than the others then it is Jon.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 24, 2019 16:21:31 GMT
For most of us Dany is just another character. No more special than Arya, Sansa, Jaime, Bran etc etc. We do not interpret everything in the show based on super character Dany. If there is one character in the show who is more important than the others then it is Jon. Then most of you are blind fools. The Night King and Daenerys are Ice and Fire, Jon is the conciliator caught in the middle, the son of Ice and Fire through his mixed parentage.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 24, 2019 16:25:37 GMT
For most of us Dany is just another character. No more special than Arya, Sansa, Jaime, Bran etc etc. We do not interpret everything in the show based on super character Dany. If there is one character in the show who is more important than the others then it is Jon. Then most of you are blind fools. The Night King and Daenerys are Ice and Fire, Jon is the conciliator caught in the middle, the son of Ice and Fire through his mixed parentage LOL......NK is not even going to be part of the final conflict. He has no significant role. Jon is the main character and it will be proven soon. Jon is the ice & fire.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Apr 24, 2019 16:27:17 GMT
And its ok for you to pretend you are not a jonerys fan i predicted jon/dany will hook up jons needs to save the north just like i predicted jon wont have any love for dany just like i predicted a dark dany just like i predicted she wont be happy to find out who he is , just like i predicted arya would hook up with gendry so i predicted most of the stuff Just because one is not a Jonsa fan he doesn't become a Jonerys fan. Most important thing Jonerys has already proved correct. Your whole argument rests on assumption that things will eventually change. Well, do get back to me when they change. I am sorry for you that Jonsa isn't happening. But the fact that you have turned everything about Dany is unbelievable. For most of us Dany is just another character. No more special than Arya, Sansa, Jaime, Bran etc etc. We do not interpret everything in the show based on super character Dany. If there is one character in the show who is more important than the others then it is Jon. sure youre not go on preach , fact is jonsa has been happening since season 6 and it will be all left to surprise viewers like you who are so hang up that the most obvious boring non chemistry couple of all tv history jon/dany had sex and nothing more ,i havent turned anything about dany that is what the show is showing about her sorry if its not happening for you and you wanted some sugarcoated dany but fact is she came to winterfell like a bitch scaring poor people with her lizards , im glad sansa doesnt fall for her crap and looks like dany is loosing it everyday and now looks like she may fight jon for the iron throne thats reality deal with it
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 24, 2019 16:30:38 GMT
Just because one is not a Jonsa fan he doesn't become a Jonerys fan. Most important thing Jonerys has already proved correct. Your whole argument rests on assumption that things will eventually change. Well, do get back to me when they change. I am sorry for you that Jonsa isn't happening. But the fact that you have turned everything about Dany is unbelievable. For most of us Dany is just another character. No more special than Arya, Sansa, Jaime, Bran etc etc. We do not interpret everything in the show based on super character Dany. If there is one character in the show who is more important than the others then it is Jon. sure youre not go on preach , fact is jonsa has been happening since season 6 and it will be all left to surprise viewers like you who are so hang up that the most obvious boring non chemistry couple of all tv history jon/dany had sex and nothing more ,i havent turned anything about dany that is what the show is showing about her sorry if its not happening for you and you wanted some sugarcoated dany but fact is she came to winterfell like a bitch scaring poor people with her lizards , im glad sansa doesnt fall for her crap and looks like dany is loosing it everyday and now looks like she may fight jon for the iron throne thats reality deal with it Well, you will have a good point when that actually happens. So far only Jonerys. Bookmark this thread and get back to me when it happens. I will give you the title of best poster on the board and convert to Jonsaism.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on Apr 24, 2019 16:30:54 GMT
Then most of you are blind fools. The Night King and Daenerys are Ice and Fire, Jon is the conciliator caught in the middle, the son of Ice and Fire through his mixed parentage LOL......NK is not even going to be part of the final conflict. He has no significant role. Jon is the main character and it will be proven soon. Jon is the ice & fire. Yes, I can agree with that. One main character caught in between two main threats, one conciliating figure risking everything to get opposites to meet. This is why he brought the wildlings south, this is why he got Daenerys to help, this is why he'll go to King's Landing to make an alliance, then he'll retire saying he never wanted any power anyway. This is what I could see GRRM propose as a true hero, after he's written his life's work as a denunciation of the downsides of personal power.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 24, 2019 16:31:59 GMT
LOL......NK is not even going to be part of the final conflict. He has no significant role. Jon is the main character and it will be proven soon. Jon is the ice & fire. Yes, I can agree with that. One main character caught in between two main threats, one conciliating figure risking everything to get opposites to meet. This is why he brought the wildlings south, this is why he got Daenerys to help, this is why he'll go to King's Landing to make an alliance, then he'll retire saying he never wanted any power anyway. This is what I could see GRRM propose as a true hero, after he's written his life's work as a denunciation of the downsides of personal power. Yes, I can agree that Jon may give his power. He can do that. He is that kind of person.
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Post by Troyal1 on Apr 24, 2019 17:01:06 GMT
it was ending of S6 after cersei did her atonement walk and the moutain picked her up and her right hand man said those words and thats how that scene ended they highlighted it was pretty dramatic , dont know what you mean clarified but i think it was foreshadowed. I don't recall that being said at all. Never heard anybody even bring it up in conversation either that's why I was asking for clarification. Not saying you're wrong, I simply don't remember that or ever heard it mentioned by anybody. It was actually the end of Season 5. Qyburn says “he has taken a holy vow of silence your grace, he has sworn he will not speak until all your enemies are dead. And the evil has been driven from the realm”. personally I think that’s an excuse for him to not speak lol. As there is no way her enemies will ALL be dead by the end
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Post by Troyal1 on Apr 24, 2019 17:08:45 GMT
Then most of you are blind fools. The Night King and Daenerys are Ice and Fire, Jon is the conciliator caught in the middle, the son of Ice and Fire through his mixed parentage LOL......NK is not even going to be part of the final conflict. He has no significant role. Jon is the main character and it will be proven soon. Jon is the ice & fire. NK will definitely be apart of the final conflict. There’s no way he’s defeated in episode 3. That would so anti climatic
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 24, 2019 17:11:05 GMT
LOL......NK is not even going to be part of the final conflict. He has no significant role. Jon is the main character and it will be proven soon. Jon is the ice & fire. NK will definitely be apart of the final conflict. There’s no way he’s defeated in episode 3. That would so anti climatic Yeah, on the second thought you could be right. In that case he will probably attack KL while his henchmen attack Winterfell. In that case Cersei using wildfire prediction could come true. Another scenario is that he is defeated in episode 4 and then Golden Company vs Survivors.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on Apr 25, 2019 19:19:38 GMT
sure youre not go on preach , fact is jonsa has been happening since season 6 and it will be all left to surprise viewers like you who are so hang up that the most obvious boring non chemistry couple of all tv history jon/dany had sex and nothing more ,i havent turned anything about dany that is what the show is showing about her sorry if its not happening for you and you wanted some sugarcoated dany but fact is she came to winterfell like a bitch scaring poor people with her lizards , im glad sansa doesnt fall for her crap and looks like dany is loosing it everyday and now looks like she may fight jon for the iron throne thats reality deal with it Well, you will have a good point when that actually happens. So far only Jonerys. Bookmark this thread and get back to me when it happens. I will give you the title of best poster on the board and convert to Jonsaism. i dont need any titles my name says it all and i can ship whatever i want , when i want ,where ever i want , better yet bookmark this thread imdb2.freeforums.net/thread/166084/any-chance-jonsa-happeningand bring it up so you can refresh your memory what you posted
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