Post by stargazer1682 on May 2, 2019 20:48:47 GMT
Ralph's literal playbook for relationships was dumb the first time around with Cisco, it's twice as dumb with Shirley - a nickname for Sherloque I am absolutely picking up on. So I guess that makes Ralph 1-2.
The playbook is beyond cartoonish; it was bad enough when they had Barney Stinson do something like on HIMYM. And when they going to have him meet Sue?? That's the relationship I've been patiently waiting for. Similarly, and perhaps morbidly, I've also been keen to see how they might reconcile the relationship Ray is supposed to have had with Jean Loring. In the comics, Jean of course is Ray's ex-wife who kicks off Identity Crisis when she accidentally (I think) kills Sue Dibney, using an older version of the Atom suit, in a bid to somehow get back together with Ray..... it was weird.....and she might have gone insane.
Arrow viewers may know that they've introduced a woman by the name of Jean Loring on Arrow, who has played Olvier's laywer, but is perhaps....a tad on the mature side for Ray.
Don't get me wrong, Teryl Rothery was great on SG1, but I just don't see them pairing her with Brandon Routh (and certainly not now that they've started this stuff with Nora Darhk)..... And now that I look it up, it seems the name they gave Ray's deceased fiance was Anna Loring, which seems like an anticlimactic cheat, but whatever....
Back on topic, I suppose if they make use of the rule of three, then when they get around to Ralpha starting a relationship with Sue and Shirley and Cisco try passing off the book to him, he does the smart thing and not use it.
So Thawne has had a negative-speed force this whole time (I'm seriously contemplating call him Negaduck now...). This NSF uses negative tachyons to siphon regular tachnyons from the regular speed force; and rather than negating them like anti-matter would with regular matter, they somehow feed the speed of someone like Thawne and now Nora? So why did Thawne need a tachyon generator (catcher?) in season 1 in order to regain or stabilize his speed? Did he loose his connection to the negative speed force?
I suppose it might make sense if this is accessed through negative emotions, that upon killing Barry's mother and preventing him from becoming the Flash, the level of satisfaction and fulfillment might factor into him accessing the NSF, but it doesn't contradict what they had said before, that it was an alternation to the timeline too far; and it undermined his own future and powers. On the other hand, if Barry doesn't become a speedster, a lot of other people don't become speedsters either, or they don't travel to Earth-1; so it's plausible there aren't as many tachyons for Thawne to leach from the speed forceif no one is actively using it.
I'm already bored with this team up of the Lametastic Four.
Jesus, why do any of them care if they can't murder people? Maybe I'm naive, but I'm pretty sure there are plenty of bad people willing to steal and do a lot of shady shit, yet would still draw the line at murder; and wouldn't lose respect for another person for not killing someone else. Don't get me wrong, there definitely others who probably at least scoff at someone who intentionally avoided killing Nora when she was working with the Flash, but it seems dubious it would be a deal breaker to be told they couldn't kill.
Okay, Rag Doll in the elevator was sufficiently and effectively creepy.
Where have I seen that escalation of a monologue, where the one person becomes more agitated and their eyes turn red?
Oh, yeah...
Did we know Renee (Shirley's girlfriend) was a meta? Did we see him find that out? I honestly don't remember.
So yet again, Iris and Barry have it out over what to do about Nora; and I can't say I entirely agree with either of them. I think the initiative Barry wants to take to stop Nora from doing something rash and bringing her in is probably prudent; she may not technically be a "Rogue" yet, but she's definitely gone argue and ostensibly under the influence of the NSF, which is clouding her judgment. So yeah, use all the tech and resources to stop a speedster in their tracks and stop her before she does something stupid.
But Barry's motivation is a bit too extreme. I get his fears and suspicions about Thawne he's not totally unjustified to think Thawne might somehow be using Nora to do his bidding, but his first and only concern right now should be Nora and making sure she doesn't do something she can't take back. What her current motivations are, whether or not she's being manipulated by anyone or anything should be second to that. Get her some place safe, where her powers are neutralized; then hash everything else out.
"Having Nora in our lives has made us better people," Really? I mean, you weren't perfect, and you still aren't, but it's not like you were assholes or anything. At best it's been a lateral move with Nora around. She's mostly made the rest of you look better by comparison, but I think it might be a stretch to say she made you "better"...
Not going to lie, I'm kind of shipping Nora and Weather Witch....
Augh...but I could do without the heartfelt exchange. Feels like an after school special.
Cisco's figured out at this point to sabotage tech he's kidnapped to hack, right?
Wait, when the hell did Barry ever call Joe, "Dad"? I don't remember that happening. It's possible he said it once, as sort of a sentimental thing, but it just seems weird as hell, all things considered.
Okay, so Nora had this elaborate plan of sneaking into this presentation dressed as military personnel. But earlier they acted like her taking off the mask when she did was some grand reveal after being outed by Weather Witch and the whole thing about "you don't trust us, but we know who you are," yet she wouldn't have to wear her mask when they dressed in their military disguise....
Well, they clearly weren't wearing those costumes under the form fitting uniforms, like they imply....
Of course, no matter how flexible he is, Rag Doll would not fit inside that suitcase, unless it's also a TARDIS.
I'm calling bullshit on the pipe thing too. I know it's fantasy, but come on.
It's a good thing Weather Witch and.... the other one... double crossed Nora; otherwise Nora wouldn't have made up with her dad.
So she was good all along? ...Meh... I thought she went off the rails a little easy, but all things considered I'd have taken that and Iris and Barry needing to bring her back down to earth over this, which is much more anticlimactic.
Why would Cisco keep the failed prototypes instead of destroying them? I suppose their's a logical, scientific reason to keep them around; maybe to know when you've already gone down a certain road before, but once he had the cure, why keep the other stuff? It might have worked better if Ralph and Caitlyn hadn't been so sure of the implications of what they found; and it was only when Cisco gets their report that he puts it together and says how one of his failed cures had the makings of a meta-virus.
The playbook is beyond cartoonish; it was bad enough when they had Barney Stinson do something like on HIMYM. And when they going to have him meet Sue?? That's the relationship I've been patiently waiting for. Similarly, and perhaps morbidly, I've also been keen to see how they might reconcile the relationship Ray is supposed to have had with Jean Loring. In the comics, Jean of course is Ray's ex-wife who kicks off Identity Crisis when she accidentally (I think) kills Sue Dibney, using an older version of the Atom suit, in a bid to somehow get back together with Ray..... it was weird.....and she might have gone insane.
Arrow viewers may know that they've introduced a woman by the name of Jean Loring on Arrow, who has played Olvier's laywer, but is perhaps....a tad on the mature side for Ray.
Don't get me wrong, Teryl Rothery was great on SG1, but I just don't see them pairing her with Brandon Routh (and certainly not now that they've started this stuff with Nora Darhk)..... And now that I look it up, it seems the name they gave Ray's deceased fiance was Anna Loring, which seems like an anticlimactic cheat, but whatever....
Back on topic, I suppose if they make use of the rule of three, then when they get around to Ralpha starting a relationship with Sue and Shirley and Cisco try passing off the book to him, he does the smart thing and not use it.
So Thawne has had a negative-speed force this whole time (I'm seriously contemplating call him Negaduck now...). This NSF uses negative tachyons to siphon regular tachnyons from the regular speed force; and rather than negating them like anti-matter would with regular matter, they somehow feed the speed of someone like Thawne and now Nora? So why did Thawne need a tachyon generator (catcher?) in season 1 in order to regain or stabilize his speed? Did he loose his connection to the negative speed force?
I suppose it might make sense if this is accessed through negative emotions, that upon killing Barry's mother and preventing him from becoming the Flash, the level of satisfaction and fulfillment might factor into him accessing the NSF, but it doesn't contradict what they had said before, that it was an alternation to the timeline too far; and it undermined his own future and powers. On the other hand, if Barry doesn't become a speedster, a lot of other people don't become speedsters either, or they don't travel to Earth-1; so it's plausible there aren't as many tachyons for Thawne to leach from the speed forceif no one is actively using it.
I'm already bored with this team up of the Lametastic Four.
Jesus, why do any of them care if they can't murder people? Maybe I'm naive, but I'm pretty sure there are plenty of bad people willing to steal and do a lot of shady shit, yet would still draw the line at murder; and wouldn't lose respect for another person for not killing someone else. Don't get me wrong, there definitely others who probably at least scoff at someone who intentionally avoided killing Nora when she was working with the Flash, but it seems dubious it would be a deal breaker to be told they couldn't kill.
Okay, Rag Doll in the elevator was sufficiently and effectively creepy.
Where have I seen that escalation of a monologue, where the one person becomes more agitated and their eyes turn red?
Oh, yeah...
Did we know Renee (Shirley's girlfriend) was a meta? Did we see him find that out? I honestly don't remember.
So yet again, Iris and Barry have it out over what to do about Nora; and I can't say I entirely agree with either of them. I think the initiative Barry wants to take to stop Nora from doing something rash and bringing her in is probably prudent; she may not technically be a "Rogue" yet, but she's definitely gone argue and ostensibly under the influence of the NSF, which is clouding her judgment. So yeah, use all the tech and resources to stop a speedster in their tracks and stop her before she does something stupid.
But Barry's motivation is a bit too extreme. I get his fears and suspicions about Thawne he's not totally unjustified to think Thawne might somehow be using Nora to do his bidding, but his first and only concern right now should be Nora and making sure she doesn't do something she can't take back. What her current motivations are, whether or not she's being manipulated by anyone or anything should be second to that. Get her some place safe, where her powers are neutralized; then hash everything else out.
"Having Nora in our lives has made us better people," Really? I mean, you weren't perfect, and you still aren't, but it's not like you were assholes or anything. At best it's been a lateral move with Nora around. She's mostly made the rest of you look better by comparison, but I think it might be a stretch to say she made you "better"...
Not going to lie, I'm kind of shipping Nora and Weather Witch....
Augh...but I could do without the heartfelt exchange. Feels like an after school special.
Cisco's figured out at this point to sabotage tech he's kidnapped to hack, right?
Wait, when the hell did Barry ever call Joe, "Dad"? I don't remember that happening. It's possible he said it once, as sort of a sentimental thing, but it just seems weird as hell, all things considered.
Okay, so Nora had this elaborate plan of sneaking into this presentation dressed as military personnel. But earlier they acted like her taking off the mask when she did was some grand reveal after being outed by Weather Witch and the whole thing about "you don't trust us, but we know who you are," yet she wouldn't have to wear her mask when they dressed in their military disguise....
Well, they clearly weren't wearing those costumes under the form fitting uniforms, like they imply....
Of course, no matter how flexible he is, Rag Doll would not fit inside that suitcase, unless it's also a TARDIS.
I'm calling bullshit on the pipe thing too. I know it's fantasy, but come on.
It's a good thing Weather Witch and.... the other one... double crossed Nora; otherwise Nora wouldn't have made up with her dad.
So she was good all along? ...Meh... I thought she went off the rails a little easy, but all things considered I'd have taken that and Iris and Barry needing to bring her back down to earth over this, which is much more anticlimactic.
Why would Cisco keep the failed prototypes instead of destroying them? I suppose their's a logical, scientific reason to keep them around; maybe to know when you've already gone down a certain road before, but once he had the cure, why keep the other stuff? It might have worked better if Ralph and Caitlyn hadn't been so sure of the implications of what they found; and it was only when Cisco gets their report that he puts it together and says how one of his failed cures had the makings of a meta-virus.
