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Post by goz on May 5, 2019 23:25:54 GMT
or restricted on here and people would have to post using...you know...language!
I realise that some posters would lose 90% of their content, however hopefully the discussions on the Boards would be improved.
I don't mind YouTube vids that are film clips, music, comedy routines or historical and factual documentary content however it would be no loss to remove all the conspiracy theory crapola and the blatant propaganda. I mean anyone can post anything on YouTube and some schmuck will believe it!
Occasionally a good vid or more likely an article can lead a discussion however the quantity of bigoted conspiracy theory propaganda and claptrap, that is posted here, we could certainly do without. IMHO.
Yes, I know I don't have to click on them, so mostly...
I don't.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on May 6, 2019 0:31:21 GMT
That's too bad, Goz. YouTube videos can often be quite informative. You might learn something.  |
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Post by goz on May 6, 2019 1:32:55 GMT
That's too bad, Goz. YouTube videos can often be quite informative. You might learn something. Did I ever say that they couldn't be informative? It is just those who post the really crappy ones, that this applies to.
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Post by clusium on May 6, 2019 4:01:32 GMT
That's too bad, Goz. YouTube videos can often be quite informative. You might learn something. Did I ever say that they couldn't be informative? It is just those who post the really crappy ones, that this applies to. Hey!!! What could possibly be so crappy about Carrie Underwood teaching us how to get revenge on cheaters?!?!?! 
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Post by phludowin on May 6, 2019 5:38:22 GMT
I agree that some posters here often start threads with idiotic videos; but I'm against banning them.
Stupid conspiracy theories also exist in writing; links to them could be posted too.
When I see that a poster posts a link instead of text, then I find it easier to dismiss that poster's opinion.
This does not mean that I automatically take written opinions seriously.
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Post by geode on May 6, 2019 7:00:05 GMT
or restricted on here and people would have to post using...you know...language! I realise that some posters would lose 90% of their content, however hopefully the discussions on the Boards would be improved. I don't mind YouTube vids that are film clips, music, comedy routines or historical and factual documentary content however it would be no loss to remove all the conspiracy theory crapola and the blatant propaganda. I mean anyone can post anything on YouTube and some schmuck will believe it! Occasionally a good vid or more likely an article can lead a discussion however the quantity of bigoted conspiracy theory propaganda and claptrap, that is posted here, we could certainly do without. IMHO. Yes, I know I don't have to click on them, so mostly... I don't. I have posted on message boards where just posting a video with no explanation why it is being linked is against the forum rules and anybody that posts these finds they are removed. I think in general this is a good idea, especially if the post is made to start a thread. Just posting a link to a youtube video with no explanation of the purpose in doing so is a very poor practice and basically is just spamming the board. This really becomes the case if the videos promote conspiracy theories or are propaganda for one cause or another. I make it a general practice of not participating in threads started in this manner.
Posting a video with a single word such as "Thoughts?" does not make for a valid OP in my opinion. If the one starting a thread does not begin with their own thoughts it shows that they either have no thoughts on the content of the video, perhaps lacking the intellectual capacity to formulate them, or they are unwilling to share them for one reason or another. I think at times the motivation is to stir up trouble but maintain plausible deniability. The poster thinks they can just say, "Hey, that isn't what I think, it is just the guy in the video making that claim."
I admit that I have posted videos with no explanation as later comments in a thread that already has many responses. I had a point in doing so, to be inane and bereft of any intellectual activity to point out that the comments in an opposing thread were inane and lacking in any intellectual content. In other words my posts were a parody, but they have been confined to one thread on a different board and most importantly were not the OP.
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Post by rizdek on May 6, 2019 12:01:34 GMT
I could see the benefit and in addition, I think it'd be great if folks had to rephrase any cut and paste in their own words while getting the gist of what they're referencing. Videos and cut n paste are just the lazy way of making a post.
At least it would be more interesting if folks who post videos and/or cut and paste would present the point(s) they are making in their own words and justify their position(s) instead of just a wall of text with no, or a one line, comment.
Maybe the only exception might be some inspirational video/essay which isn't meant to "make a political pt."
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Post by Stammerhead on May 6, 2019 13:26:51 GMT
That's too bad, Goz. YouTube videos can often be quite informative. You might learn something. I agree and we can also point out the flaws in those videos (even when the OP ignores the flaws).
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Post by Winter_King on May 6, 2019 13:36:46 GMT
or restricted on here and people would have to post using...you know...language! I realise that some posters would lose 90% of their content, however hopefully the discussions on the Boards would be improved. I don't mind YouTube vids that are film clips, music, comedy routines or historical and factual documentary content however it would be no loss to remove all the conspiracy theory crapola and the blatant propaganda. I mean anyone can post anything on YouTube and some schmuck will believe it!Occasionally a good vid or more likely an article can lead a discussion however the quantity of bigoted conspiracy theory propaganda and claptrap, that is posted here, we could certainly do without. IMHO. Yes, I know I don't have to click on them, so mostly... I don't. No loss for you. For me, I would lose hours of unintentional comedy. Having Alex Jones telling that "they are putting chemicals in the water that turn the frigging frogs gay" is not something I can find on other comedy websites. Plus I don't want to live in world where Ray Comfort and Kirk Cameron can't spread the news about crocoducks and bananas being perfectly designed for the human mouth...
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2019 15:26:28 GMT
I'd just like to see the results of a week or two Facebook collapse.
Seriously, trauma centers and hotlines would seize up.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on May 6, 2019 16:25:33 GMT
That's too bad, Goz. YouTube videos can often be quite informative. You might learn something. I agree and we can also point out the flaws in those videos (even when the OP ignores the flaws). Yes. Several times I've posted videos just to point out the flaws, and I have even pointed out the flaws in videos I agreed with, but the evil ones on this board ignore this, because it contradicts their portrayal of me as a lunatic who will believe anything simply because he saw it on YouTube.
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Post by Stammerhead on May 6, 2019 17:51:24 GMT
I agree and we can also point out the flaws in those videos (even when the OP ignores the flaws). Yes. Several times I've posted videos just to point out the flaws, and I have even pointed out the flaws in videos I agreed with, but the evil ones on this board ignore this, because it contradicts their portrayal of me as a lunatic who will believe anything simply because he saw it on YouTube. My only real issue with YouTube threads is that they alter my recommended video streams and I often fall down the rabbit hole but even that can bring up some entertainment.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on May 6, 2019 17:56:12 GMT
Yes. Several times I've posted videos just to point out the flaws, and I have even pointed out the flaws in videos I agreed with, but the evil ones on this board ignore this, because it contradicts their portrayal of me as a lunatic who will believe anything simply because he saw it on YouTube. My only real issue with YouTube threads is that they alter my recommended video streams and I often fall down the rabbit hole but even that can bring up some entertainment. Same here. Goz is a sadist, and she started this thread as a callout against Maya and me, and maybe Clusium too, but she was careful not to mention names like she did last time. My take on it is as follows. The thread is here, so as long as it's here let's discuss it like adults, and maybe something can be done to turn this negative into a positive.
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Post by lowtacks86 on May 6, 2019 18:37:23 GMT
Sorry but no, can't really get on board with that. I only think extreme cases should call for censorship/banning (child porn, doxxing, etc). Besides where do you draw the line on "conspiracy theories"? There's a lot of people (both on the left and right) that think Russiagate is just an overblown nothingburger, should we ban videos talking about that? Is it a "conspiracy theory" to say Dick Cheyney was basically bribed by Hallibruton to push for the Iraq War (something that's painfully obvious)? Some Bush era apologists might still argue yes.
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Post by goz on May 6, 2019 21:20:21 GMT
Sorry but no, can't really get on board with that. I only think extreme cases should call for censorship/banning (child porn, doxxing, etc). Besides where do you draw the line on "conspiracy theories"? There's a lot of people (both on the left and right) that think Russiagate is just an overblown nothingburger, should we ban videos talking about that? Is it a "conspiracy theory" to say Dick Cheyney was basically bribed by Hallibruton to push for the Iraq War (something that's painfully obvious)? Some Bush era apologists might still argue yes. I said it would be funny. I didn't recommend it as I don't have to open those threads or look at those videos. My point is the dependence on these visual communications on a message board where it is traditional to make point is language yourself and not let others speak for you. To me YouTube vids can be an adjunct to communication however I am critical of those who rely on them to spam the Boards.
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Post by goz on May 6, 2019 21:40:10 GMT
My only real issue with YouTube threads is that they alter my recommended video streams and I often fall down the rabbit hole but even that can bring up some entertainment. Same here. Goz is a sadist, and she started this thread as a callout against Maya and me, and maybe Clusium too, but she was careful not to mention names like she did last time. My take on it is as follows. The thread is here, so as long as it's here let's discuss it like adults, and maybe something can be done to turn this negative into a positive. My answer to this post is going to be of a statistical nature. Any fair minded person looking at the Board history will notice one thing. The vast number of YouTube driven threads, with no commentary from the OP where there is no interest beyond a private conversation between usually the same two posters. There are even a plethora of such posts with 0 replies and only a few viewings where other posters perhaps had hoped for a decent topic to start a conversation. I do not include Clusium in this thread because she s a student of World Religions and always has relevant and pertinent things to say on most subjects. I don't always agree however we have 'a conversation' I call this spamming the Boards and these posts could well be made in private messages. Since 'that poster' was temporarily banned from this Board for her persistent relentless and nasty persecution of me, I notice that this trend has increased. How childish. . Anyone who consistenlyl bothers to open your multitudinal YouTube vids must INDEED be ' a sadist' My suggestion would be that posters stop trolling and spamming the Boards with their agenda driven YouTube videos, unless they make some form of commentary to lead to discussion of whatever points they wish to emphasise or why they picked that particular video. Even childish adults can tell when maybe 70% of their posts get one or zero replies due to lack of interest. To persist in doing this must have some ulterior motive. It is a however a free forum and as long as people post within the terms and conditions AND the instuctions of the admin, there is freedom of speech however you shouldn't mind criticism from the those who have posted on this thread already, who find it either tiresome or a waste of everyone's time and bandwidth. [/quote]
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Post by goz on May 6, 2019 21:47:30 GMT
That's too bad, Goz. YouTube videos can often be quite informative. You might learn something. I agree and we can also point out the flaws in those videos (even when the OP ignores the flaws). This post is too ironically funny! ...especially seeing who liked it! 
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