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Post by Sulla on Apr 11, 2017 12:39:46 GMT
I like them, too. Sometimes they make me want to visit a place or learn more about a legend. I've always thought the works of Aaron Copland are good musical representations of Americana.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 19:47:41 GMT
I like Copland. Funny, I never thought of him as nationalistic. When I hear that word I think of fascist countries. Over here we say "patriotic" , a word I don't use so much because I find it somewhat vague. But I know what "nationalistic" means, and to answer the OQ, my favorite composer is Jean Sibelius whose music was all about love for his homeland. Finlandia, Karelia, Tapiola and Kullervo are what I like to call "sound paintings", the latter being based on an earlier literary work. They all give stunning mental images of Finland. I can't think of any other nationalistic composers, though. Might the OP name a few?
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Post by general313 on Jan 12, 2018 1:08:59 GMT
I think Dvorak can be classified as nationalistic. His stature is up there with Sibelius, and he had a similar ability to embrace nationalistic traits at times, and transcend them at others. The Slavonic Dances are examples of the former, the symphonies and cello concerto examples of the latter.
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Post by bravomailer on Jan 15, 2018 21:02:39 GMT
Sibelius's Finlandia is one of my favorite classical works and perhaps the best known nationalistic pieces.
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Post by ellynmacg on Mar 24, 2018 9:05:37 GMT
Borodin, Mussorgsky, and Rimsky-Korsakov (arguably the most famous of the Russian "Five") are often considered nationalistic composers. And while it's understandable, given all the horrible connotations the term has acquired, that nationalism might be viewed negatively, I prefer to look on it in this context as a cultural term. Many of my favorite composers--including the Russians listed above--composed pieces of a nationalistic nature. Another of these was Grieg, who reportedly believed his native country, Norway, needed its own specific national style or school of music. (Please understand I'm writing this off the cuff, very early in the morning, without resorting to Wikipedia or any other documentation, so don't judge me too harshly if I've stirred a few inaccuracies into the mix. )
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Mar 27, 2018 13:15:17 GMT
I think Bartok was the greatest nationalist composer. Especially when held up against Kodaly, (and perhaps Rosza) who can sometime seem weaker versions of the same thing.
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Post by thornberry on Mar 29, 2018 17:36:32 GMT
Try Czech composer Bedrich Smetana's "Ma Vlast". The well-known "Moldau" (aka "Vltava") is one part. You're in for a treat. Wikipedia: "Má vlast (Czech pronunciation: [maː vlast], meaning "My homeland" in the Czech language) is a set of six symphonic poems composed between 1874 and 1879 by the Czech composer Bedřich Smetana. While it is often presented as a single work in six movements and – with the exception of Vltava – is almost always recorded that way, the six pieces were conceived as individual works. They had their own separate premieres between 1875 and 1880; the premiere of the complete set took place on 5 November 1882 in Žofín Palace, Prague,[1] under Adolf Čech, who had also conducted two of the individual premieres. In these works Smetana combined the symphonic poem form pioneered by Franz Liszt with the ideals of nationalistic music which were current in the late nineteenth century. Each poem depicts some aspect of the countryside, history, or legends of Bohemia." www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzHeEoFtnLg
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Post by Sulla on Apr 5, 2018 10:20:26 GMT
I like Copland. Funny, I never thought of him as nationalistic. When I hear that word I think of fascist countries. Over here we say "patriotic" , a word I don't use so much because I find it somewhat vague. But I know what "nationalistic" means, and to answer the OQ, my favorite composer is Jean Sibelius whose music was all about love for his homeland. Finlandia, Karelia, Tapiola and Kullervo are what I like to call "sound paintings", the latter being based on an earlier literary work. They all give stunning mental images of Finland. I can't think of any other nationalistic composers, though. Might the OP name a few?
I agree with you. I just noticed the original poster deleted his/her post. I can't recall who it was. I would've chosen the word "patriotic" or a word which denotes a representation of a country, not necessarily a superiority.
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Post by thornberry on Apr 7, 2018 20:39:23 GMT
Borodin, Mussorgsky, and Rimsky-Korsakov (arguably the most famous of the Russian "Five") are often considered nationalistic composers. And while it's understandable, given all the horrible connotations the term has acquired, that nationalism might be viewed negatively, I prefer to look on it in this context as a cultural term. Many of my favorite composers--including the Russians listed above--composed pieces of a nationalistic nature. Another of these was Grieg, who reportedly believed his native country, Norway, needed its own specific national style or school of music. (Please understand I'm writing this off the cuff, very early in the morning, without resorting to Wikipedia or any other documentation, so don't judge me too harshly if I've stirred a few inaccuracies into the mix. ) Just composing in the style of one's country or culture isn't the same as writing nationalistic compositions.
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Post by bluerisk on Apr 11, 2018 18:36:05 GMT
"Cantata on the 20th Anniversary of the October Revolution"
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Post by ellynmacg on Apr 22, 2018 19:21:33 GMT
I disagree. Much depends on one's definition of nationalistic. To me, it doesn't have to be a synonym for "patriotic" or necessarily carry the connotations of "I'm composing this piece to demonstrate the superiority of my country to all others."
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Post by thornberry on Apr 23, 2018 23:32:28 GMT
I disagree. Much depends on one's definition of nationalistic. To me, it doesn't have to be a synonym for "patriotic" or necessarily carry the connotations of "I'm composing this piece to demonstrate the superiority of my country to all others." Unless they make a conscious effort not to, most composers write in the style they grew up hearing. Why isn't all their music nationalistic, then?
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Post by President Ackbar™ on Apr 23, 2018 23:41:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2018 1:59:01 GMT
Is the Copeland, related to the police member?
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