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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 13, 2019 14:36:49 GMT
I want to see more before writing it off completely, but this looks terrible. And I actually liked the film despite it being a mess and the complete bastardization of Ozymandias.
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Post by sdrew13163 on May 13, 2019 21:30:38 GMT
So is this using bits of Doomsday Clock? Because I definitely don’t remember any of that in Watchmen.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on May 13, 2019 21:39:32 GMT
I want to see more before writing it off completely, but this looks terrible. And I actually liked the film despite it being a mess and the complete bastardization of Ozymandias. Agreed, and I was really looking forward to this, too.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2019 18:31:28 GMT
I'll give it a shot for sure. The show runner is the dude behind The Leftovers (which I quite liked) . Plus it has Don fucking Johnson in it!
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2019 23:14:27 GMT
I saw this the other day. Is it supposed to be a sequel or something? I have no idea what this has to do with Watchmen.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on May 17, 2019 1:25:17 GMT
I saw this the other day. Is it supposed to be a sequel or something? I have no idea what this has to do with Watchmen. It is a present-day-set sequel, but to the comic book, not the movie. |
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 17, 2019 12:13:48 GMT
I saw this the other day. Is it supposed to be a sequel or something? I have no idea what this has to do with Watchmen. It is a present-day-set sequel, but to the comic book, not the movie. This has me wanting to read the comic again, I just realized how long it's been.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 23, 2019 1:30:57 GMT
Well, I hated the movie. This looks interesting, but there's not a lot to go on. The Rorschach cult seems more V For Vendetta than Watchmen.
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Post by kuatorises on May 29, 2019 2:48:38 GMT
I think it looks great.
I have a love/hate opinion with both the book and the movie.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 29, 2019 12:56:01 GMT
I think it looks great. I have a love/hate opinion with both the book and the movie. There's certainly stuff to love and hate about both. I'm going to give the show a chance, I hope the next trailer tells us more. Jeremy Irons as an aging Ozy is genius casting, I'll say that.
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Post by kuatorises on May 29, 2019 15:41:10 GMT
I think it looks great. I have a love/hate opinion with both the book and the movie. There's certainly stuff to love and hate about both. I'm going to give the show a chance, I hope the next trailer tells us more. Jeremy Irons as an aging Ozy is genius casting, I'll say that. That's who he's playing?! Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Fuck me, that is brilliant.
I had never really heard the graphic novel until I saw the trailer for the movie. I remember catching back on the old IMDb and saying, "Wow what is this?" The movie wasn't out yet and then I started delving into the history of the graphic novel, so I decided to check it out.
It's been a very long time since I read it, but here's what I remember.
It probably would not have been a factor had I read it for the first time back then, but because of the vast improvement in the quality of artwork in comics and graphic novels, I am a bit of an art snob in that sense. I read comics when I was a kid, but nothing serious or consistent. I got back into it when I was about 25 or 26. I just love the newer stuff so much more. It's so colorful and detailed, but I don't remember artwork for the Watchmen being a big distraction, because I found the story so engrossing. I had never read anything like it. It was so dark and graphic for a superhero story.It was different and new to me, but most importantly very engaging. The mystery of all was a very engrossing.
But then there's the things that I didn't like. The little side stories? I found them tedious and painful to read after a certain point. At first I thought they were interesting, but after a while they just seemed like something that was preventing me from reading the important stuff – kind of like the poems and songs in Lord of the Rings. If I ever went back and read the book again, I'd skip them.
Then came that damn squid.You turn the page and you are smacked in the face with it. It was just so… Goofy. Using Doc Manhattan in the movie was a very smart move IMO. It worked soooooo much better.I also wasn't a huge fan of the climax. For starters, I found it quite unbelievable how easily Veidt dispatched them all. I hated it. Then Dan and Laurie just smile and walk off into the sunset. WTF?
Ironically, I am reading some of those follow-up comics where DC connected Watchmen to their main universe. I'm really digging it and am reminded of how engrossed I was in the watchmen all those years ago.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 29, 2019 16:04:55 GMT
There's certainly stuff to love and hate about both. I'm going to give the show a chance, I hope the next trailer tells us more. Jeremy Irons as an aging Ozy is genius casting, I'll say that. That's who he's playing?! Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Fuck me, that is brilliant.
I had never really heard the graphic novel until I saw the trailer for the movie. I remember catching back on the old IMDb and saying, "Wow what is this?" The movie wasn't out yet and then I started delving into the history of the graphic novel, so I decided to check it out.
It's been a very long time since I read it, but here's what I remember.
It probably would not have been a factor had I read it for the first time back then, but because of the vast improvement in the quality of artwork in comics and graphic novels, I am a bit of an art snob in that sense. I read comics when I was a kid, but nothing serious or consistent. I got back into it when I was about 25 or 26. I just love the newer stuff so much more. It's so colorful and detailed, but I don't remember artwork for the Watchmen being a big distraction, because I found the story so engrossing. I had never read anything like it. It was so dark and graphic for a superhero story.It was different and new to me, but most importantly very engaging. The mystery of all was a very engrossing.
But then there's the things that I didn't like. The little side stories? I found them tedious and painful to read after a certain point. At first I thought they were interesting, but after a while they just seemed like something that was preventing me from reading the important stuff – kind of like the poems and songs in Lord of the Rings. If I ever went back and read the book again, I'd skip them.
Then came that damn squid.You turn the page and you are smacked in the face with it. It was just so… Goofy. Using Doc Manhattan in the movie was a very smart move IMO. It worked soooooo much better.I also wasn't a huge fan of the climax. For starters, I found it quite unbelievable how easily Veidt dispatched them all. I hated it. Then Dan and Laurie just smile and walk off into the sunset. WTF?
Ironically, I am reading some of those follow-up comics where DC connected Watchmen to their main universe. I'm really digging it and am reminded of how engrossed I was in the watchmen all those years ago.
Agreed with the superfluous side stories in the original comic. Just unnecessary and kind of pretentious of Moore to include them. Sure the pirate story gives nuance to Ozy's motivation if you pay attention, but do you really need it? Doesn't his arc in the story do that well enough? I just remember being absolutely fascinated with the character of Ozymandias, especially after the turn I didn't see coming at all. It seems like the ultimate outcome of 'the world's smartest man;' to view things like a god or a computer would-- to remove his emotions and morality from the equation. As he expounds his argument for his actions, talking about taking a step back to see the bigger picture, then taking another step back, to see more, etc. He's removing his own humanity one step at a time; brilliantly written. (For the record I think he was right to do what he did within the context of the story.) It's the little things I enjoy most when I think about the original story. Like how frightened Rorschach and Dan are when they realize Adrian is the villain. Rorschach acknowledges he can't think of a more dangerous opponent. Dan says something like, "This must be how regular people feel around us." All of the characters felt so real. Even DM wasn't as detached from humanity as he thought he was. More like his power had made him morally ambivalent, not much different from Ozymandias or even the Comedian-- the difference being the Comedian didn't try to fool himself into thinking he was a hero. Ironically I enjoyed movie because it had this strange ethereal quality to it; it completely ruined Ozy and turned him into a stock James Bond villain; but as you said the Doc Manhattan frame job is superior to the giant squid, that never would've worked on screen. The characters in the film have nowhere near the depth they have on the page, but the film really nails a few key moments that cut to the essence of the characters. You're taking a hell of a lot of material and cramming it into a few hours, it was never going to be of the same quality in a single film. Some people think it was a disaster but I'm glad Snyder tried. Maybe someday the studio will take a chance and remake it as a trilogy.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 21, 2019 13:31:42 GMT
Well so far the show is as terrible as the trailers made it look. It seems to be a lazy commentary on race relations in the US, a topic that has been done to death over the last 5 years in tv and cinema. I'll give it one more episode to do something interesting, otherwise I'm out.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on Oct 30, 2019 19:07:24 GMT
Two episodes in and no sign of improvement. Looks like Silk Spectre shows up next episode. I have the feeling I'm going to suffer through this series looking forward to the nods to the source material while getting nothing out of the story itself.
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