jamescfinn
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Post by jamescfinn on May 16, 2019 13:13:15 GMT
A user who names himself after a violent, murderous mobster is concerned about morals. Ha!
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 16, 2019 13:14:05 GMT
Lol something I noticed about preach is he loves to use the strawman argument tactic. This is very common with SJW's. He's a troll. He argues just to argue. Liar. I seem to recall someone advocating for children being human shields. Tsk, tsk.
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Post by movieliker on May 16, 2019 14:53:17 GMT
A user who names himself after a violent, murderous mobster is concerned about morals. Ha! Who would that be? I Googled Preach Caleb, Caleb, Toasted Cheese and movieliker. I couldn't find anything. Who are you referring to?
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Post by movieliker on May 16, 2019 14:58:01 GMT
No, it's based on science. The study of genetics has proven that once the human sperm penetrates the human egg, a human zygote is produced with the DNA structure that will determine the physical, mental and psychological characteristics of that unique individual. That particular human being only has one chance at life. And if killed, that distinct individual will never have another chance at life. That human zygote is a human being. An innocent, vulnerable and dependent human being. I am not putting the rights of the unborn over the rights of the mother. I am putting the life of the unborn over the convenience of the mother. A mother who in most cases made a decision to have sex. Usually without protection (birth control). If she didn't want to get pregnant, she shouldn't have had sex. Certainly without protection. Most abortions are performed on women who didn't practice birth control. And who find a pregnancy to be inconvenient. Not life threatening. And not a result of rape or incest. I know libs love to throw out "What about rape? What about incest? What if the birth control failed?" But those are just smoke screens. Most women seeking abortions don't fall into those categories. "WHY DO WOMEN WOMEN HAVE ABORTIONS
12% say possible problems with their health
1% of women said they were aborting because they were raped
Less than .05% of women gave the reason because of incest"illinoisrighttolife.org/why-do-women-have-abortions/I have been having sex for 45 years. I have never gotten a female pregnant. And I know lots of people --- male and female --- who say the same thing. You don't reward irresponsibility with the right to kill an innocent baby. Sorry, abortion is wrong. The science of human embryo conception is irrelevant to you judging and condemning women who chose to terminate this process. People do not have sex just for pro-creation and you wouldn't possibly know of how many women WERE using contraceptives, or men and they are not always entirely fail safe. Some things are planned, some aren't. If the child is not wanted in any immediate family unit, it is none of your freakin' business what they choose to do.
Yes, I know you are wrongheaded and obtuse at the best of times.
I wouldn't know, but abortion providers would. And my opinion is based on their experience. It is my business what happens to innocent and vulnerable children. And it should be yours. Killing little babies --- are you a monster Toasted Cheese?
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 16, 2019 15:53:54 GMT
A user who names himself after a violent, murderous mobster is concerned about morals. Ha! Who would that be? I Googled Preach Caleb, Caleb, Toasted Cheese and movieliker. I couldn't find anything. Who are you referring to? Liar. You wanted children to be human shields.
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Post by movieliker on May 16, 2019 16:13:00 GMT
Who would that be? I Googled Preach Caleb, Caleb, Toasted Cheese and movieliker. I couldn't find anything. Who are you referring to? Liar. You wanted children to be human shields. Ha ha ha . . . You're a troll Preach. This is not an intelligent or mature response. And you getting personal is a troll tactic. (Nevermind what you are accusing me of is not even true.)
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 16, 2019 16:14:27 GMT
Liar. You wanted children to be human shields. Ha ha ha . . . You're a troll Preach. This is not an intelligent or mature response. And you getting personal is a troll tactic. (Nevermind what you are accusing me if is not even true.) Liar. It's true. Don't make your lies so obvious when you troll. It shows you can't even troll properly.
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Post by movieliker on May 18, 2019 4:33:29 GMT
I wouldn't know, but abortion providers would. And my opinion is based on their experience. It is my business what happens to innocent and vulnerable children. And it should be yours. Killing little babies --- are you a monster Toasted Cheese? Stop it with the posturing and virtue signalling and making out you are one concerned individual for some abstract lifeform. You can come across as one of the most deceptive, dishonest and insincere posters on here, that is why another poster, with far more compassion and insight than you, constantly calls you out as a liar.
It is NONE of your business what goes on in someone else's life and how they choose to live it, WHEN IT DOESN'T AFFECT YOUR OWN. And as I thought, since you pretend to care so much, you don't take in and provide for ANY unwanted children in this world because you are a phony. I even seriously doubt you have been having sex for the past 45yrs.
Don't get mad at me. I am just stating facts. If you cannot accept the truth, get mad at yourself for being in serious denial.
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Post by itsmagic on May 18, 2019 8:25:16 GMT
The Bible also said women were property. A man could beat and kill his wife. Yep. Which is why it's a crock to reference it in 2019. nowhere in the bible do i see where women are treated as property according to God's decrees and those following His
authority. the nations in Idolatry abused women. nowhere does God allow a man to abuse or murder his wife.
only in the teaches of radical islam do you see women treated as objects. they abuse them by treating them as property.
denying them the right to even be seen expressing themselves as individual women-since sharia law requires them to be
in traditional coverings. radical islam teaches beatings. radical islam even Allows husbands to Murder their wives !!
they seek to enslave us all with their lies. they trained and marched with the nazi waffen ss troops who murdered millions.
a thorough understanding of God's word is always relevant. it reveals true darkness
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Post by HumanFundRecipient on May 18, 2019 11:44:02 GMT
A user who names himself after a violent, murderous mobster is concerned about morals. Ha! Who would that be? I Googled Preach Caleb, Caleb, Toasted Cheese and movieliker. I couldn't find anything. Who are you referring to? The source material has lots of death within its nearly three hour timeframe.
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Post by theravenking on May 19, 2019 20:38:27 GMT
I'll never understand why some people are bothered by abortion. Often these same people treat other human beings like crap, but are upset when some insignificant piece of organic matter is kept from developing into a living person.
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Post by movieliker on May 20, 2019 22:53:32 GMT
I'll never understand why some people are bothered by abortion. Often these same people treat other human beings like crap, but are upset when some insignificant piece of organic matter is kept from developing into a living person. Because innocent little babies are murdered. If you aren't bothered by that, what's wrong with you?
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 21, 2019 13:11:14 GMT
Yep. Which is why it's a crock to reference it in 2019. nowhere in the bible do i see where women are treated as property according to God's decrees and those following His
authority. the nations in Idolatry abused women. nowhere does God allow a man to abuse or murder his wife.
only in the teaches of radical islam do you see women treated as objects. they abuse them by treating them as property.
denying them the right to even be seen expressing themselves as individual women-since sharia law requires them to be
in traditional coverings. radical islam teaches beatings. radical islam even Allows husbands to Murder their wives !!
they seek to enslave us all with their lies.
a thorough understanding of God's word is always relevant. it reveals true darkness
Then you haven't read your bible carefully.
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Post by klandersen on May 21, 2019 19:38:23 GMT
So how many late abortions are performed for the mother's health reason, as opposed to those that are doing it out of callous cold blooded reasons for murder? The overwhelming number of abortions are performed on women who see their pregnancy as an inconvenience. The rape, incest victim and the mother whose life or health is at risk, is a myth used by pro abortion advocates. Yes, it happens. But not as much as pro abortionists pretend. On the radio (about a day or two ago) they said that the percentage of abortions from incest and rape is less than 1% of all abortions.
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Post by klandersen on May 21, 2019 20:13:46 GMT
Exactly. So that baby has a right. Let me ask you this question, and this is not out of anger or spite. This is an honest scenario. I'm only using this for debate. If a mother kills her 3 day old triplets tomorrow on the news and says, "They were in my body, I made them. I decided I couldn't handle triplets. So I cut their throats." Everyone would mourn the loss of those babies and ask for that evil woman to be put to death. Five days earlier she asks for an abortion while they are in her belly. That makes it okay? Because there is a layer of skin over them? If an abortion can be performed without killing the fetus/baby then I’m for it. So long as there’s someone to take care of it via adoption, orphanage, whatever. It would be nice if there were a way to remove the fetus without killing it. With modern medical technology you would think there would be some way of doing that and transferring it to another womb or an artificial womb to bring the infant to full term. Wed can fertilize eggs via In Vitro Ferilization to help couples get pregnant, but we can't remove a living/developing fetus and transplant it elsewhere to let it complete the development process without killing it?
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Post by Fox in the Snow on May 21, 2019 21:25:23 GMT
I'll never understand why some people are bothered by abortion. Often these same people treat other human beings like crap, but are upset when some insignificant piece of organic matter is kept from developing into a living person. The people against abortion see that "insignificant piece of organic matter" as a human life. That's the whole basis of the debate, people draw the line of when a human life begins at a different point.
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Post by itsmagic on May 22, 2019 1:05:22 GMT
nowhere in the bible do i see where women are treated as property according to God's decrees and those following His
authority. the nations in Idolatry abused women. nowhere does God allow a man to abuse or murder his wife.
only in the teaches of radical islam do you see women treated as objects. they abuse them by treating them as property.
denying them the right to even be seen expressing themselves as individual women-since sharia law requires them to be
in traditional coverings. radical islam teaches beatings. radical islam even Allows husbands to Murder their wives !!
they seek to enslave us all with their lies.
a thorough understanding of God's word is always relevant. it reveals true darkness
Then you haven't read your bible carefully. i have read, studied and taught scripture for many years. name a passage or question we can discuss
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Post by PreachCaleb on May 22, 2019 13:28:54 GMT
Then you haven't read your bible carefully. i have read, studied and taught scripture for many years. name a passage or question we can discuss Peter 2:18: Slaves should obey even their cruel masters. Ephesians 5:22: Women should be obedient to their husbands. Timothy 2:12: Women must be silent. Numbers 5:12-28: Women are property. Ephesians 5:22-23: Rape victims are to be stoned.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on May 22, 2019 20:12:25 GMT
Editing for clarity: mine i have read, studied and taught scripture for many years. name a passage or question we can discuss Peter 2:18: Slaves should obey even their cruel masters.
Ephesians 5:22: Women should be obedient to their husbands.
Timothy 2:12: Women must be silent.
Numbers 5:12-28: Women are property.
Ephesians 5:22-23: Rape victims are to be stoned.
Touche, PreachCaleb. I just had to have this entire exchange in one post. And WTF does this even mean? Seriously? Muslims trained and marched with the Nazis? Now, that's just plain delusional.
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Post by itsmagic on May 23, 2019 2:32:23 GMT
i have read, studied and taught scripture for many years. name a passage or question we can discuss Peter 2:18: Slaves should obey even their cruel masters. Ephesians 5:22: Women should be obedient to their husbands. Timothy 2:12: Women must be silent. Numbers 5:12-28: Women are property. Ephesians 5:22-23: Rape victims are to be stoned. * any understanding of scripture must proceed from the context of who it was written to, when and why specifically.
comparing scripture with scripture.* 1 Pet 2:18,19 - slavery had existed for thousands of years among warring nations.
it existed long after this was written. God is telling slaves to -18 "accept the authority of your masters with all deference"
-19 "it is a credit to you if...you endure while suffering unjustly". God knew their anguish and he sought to prevent them
from suffering even more by defying cruel and evil people to no avail. {of course God never wanted for there to be slavery.
or the cruelty and suffering and wars that resulted from the battles against oppression and tyranny justly fought}
God rescued his people from the cruelty of the egyptians who had enslaved them for centuries. He then showed later
how Jesus suffered unjustly when He was accused, (though He was sinless), beaten and murdered by evil men.
He gave Himself as a sacrifice for the sins of all. He will be back to punish all the evils of men for all time.
[Acts 2:37,38 to be saved - Peter told the people on the day of Pentecost they had murdered the sinless Son of God.
they said "bretheren, what shall we do ? And Peter said to them" repent, and let each of you be baptized in the name of
Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins, and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit".]
1 Tim 2:12- the church was being disrupted by false teachings and practices from Idolatry. from 2:10-14 " as befits women
making a claim to godliness. Let a woman quietly receive instruction with entire submissiveness. I do not allow a
woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. For it was Adam who was first created,
and then Eve. And it was not Adam who was deceived, but the woman being quite deceived, fell into transgression".
God Made this universe. His Rules - we just live in this world for a little while. because of Eve's sin in Gen 3 sin entered
the world. because of this God cursed the serpent who had deceived them. Eve was told Gen 3:16 - "your desire shall be for
your husband, and he shall rule over you".
Eph 5:22 from 21- be subject to one another in the fear of Christ. Wives, be subject to your own husbands, as to the Lord.
For the husband is the head of the wife, as Christ is also head of the church,...24-But as the church is subject to Christ, so also
the wives ought to be to their husbands in everything. 28- "So husbands ought also to love their own wives as their own bodies.
He who loves his own wife loves himself". only a misapplication or twisting of scripture would cause anyone to mistreat
anyone. a husband who truly loves his wife will thank God every day for the blessing of a godly woman as a gift from God.
when we submit ourselves to each other in love, we find our greatest joys
{ I shall address the last two of your passages from the old testament separately, as i need the exact passage for the last one.
that is not Ephesians }
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