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Post by mikef6 on May 17, 2019 4:23:50 GMT
There is some anecdotal evidence (most of it old) about voters giving their ballots to their grandchildren (the same stories keep getting repeated year after year) but there is no reason to believe that it is widespread. The comment about "reasons other than being deserving" is usually reserved for wins by minority (and sometimes women) actors and directors. In those cases I either ignore the comment or call out the commentator. I disagree. The Academy was intimidated into nominating more minorities as of late. This isn't speculation, this is an absolute fact. #Oscarssowhite ring a bell? I rest my case.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 17, 2019 4:27:53 GMT
Yes, every problem that ever was is because of liberals trying to show representation to people. Ugh. She had a big year between Annie Hall and Mr. Goodbar. Since Annie Hall was already the big Oscar favorite, she likely was nominated and won for it instead, but the win was really for both performances. That's my theory. His point still stands. That at least half the time the winners are chosen for reasons that have more to do with politics than actually being the best. Basically the reason I don't watch the Oscars anymore. Certainly, like when your boy Sean Penn won for turning Harvey Milk into a camp gay stereotype over the far superior Mickey Roarke who happened to be a Bush supporter. But Diane Keaton winning because her character was vaguely feminist? That's the kind of nutty, paranoid MRA sh*t that gets tiring on this board. And from what I can tell, you support her win, so what are we talking about here?
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Post by moviemouth on May 17, 2019 6:19:24 GMT
His point still stands. That at least half the time the winners are chosen for reasons that have more to do with politics than actually being the best. Basically the reason I don't watch the Oscars anymore. Certainly, like when your boy Sean Penn won for turning Harvey Milk into a camp gay stereotype over the far superior Mickey Roarke who happened to be a Bush supporter. But Diane Keaton winning because her character was vaguely feminist? That's the kind of nutty, paranoid MRA sh*t that gets tiring on this board. And from what I can tell, you support her win, so what are we talking about here? All I was commenting on is that he has a point in not trusting the reasons for any choices the Oscars make. Whether I agree with certain wins or not is beside the point. I wasn't saying that Diane Keaton won because of politics specifically. Sean Penn probably did win because he is a liberal, but that has nothing to do with why he is my favorite lead male performance of that year. I don't much care what you find tiring.
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Post by moviemouth on May 17, 2019 6:37:05 GMT
I disagree. The Academy was intimidated into nominating more minorities as of late. This isn't speculation, this is an absolute fact. #Oscarssowhite ring a bell? I rest my case. You just said that you don't take that claim seriously. There are other reasons in the past - Crash winning over Brokeback because it was too gay, actors winning because they are old and haven't won yet over much more deserving performances, nominations by association etc.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 17, 2019 6:42:44 GMT
Certainly, like when your boy Sean Penn won for turning Harvey Milk into a camp gay stereotype over the far superior Mickey Roarke who happened to be a Bush supporter. But Diane Keaton winning because her character was vaguely feminist? That's the kind of nutty, paranoid MRA sh*t that gets tiring on this board. And from what I can tell, you support her win, so what are we talking about here? All I was commenting on is that he has a point in not trusting the reasons for any choices the Oscars make. Whether I agree with certain wins or not is beside the point. I wasn't saying that Diane Keaton won because of politics specifically. Sean Penn probably did win because he is a liberal, but that has nothing to do with why he is my favorite lead male performance of that year. I don't much care what you find tiring. K. Have you considered not inserting yourself into my arguments with other people?
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Post by moviemouth on May 17, 2019 6:54:29 GMT
All I was commenting on is that he has a point in not trusting the reasons for any choices the Oscars make. Whether I agree with certain wins or not is beside the point. I wasn't saying that Diane Keaton won because of politics specifically. Sean Penn probably did win because he is a liberal, but that has nothing to do with why he is my favorite lead male performance of that year. I don't much care what you find tiring.K. Have you considered not inserting yourself into my arguments with other people? I am happy to ignore everything you say from now on.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 17, 2019 7:07:54 GMT
K. Have you considered not inserting yourself into my arguments with other people? I am happy to ignore everything you say from now on. Alright. Talk to ya in a couple days.
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Post by darksidebeadle on May 17, 2019 10:31:36 GMT
77 is a great year
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