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Post by permutojoe on May 22, 2019 1:31:48 GMT
How would it work. Why would it work?
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 22, 2019 1:33:45 GMT
No
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Post by maya55555 on May 22, 2019 1:38:39 GMT
No.
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Post by MCDemuth on May 22, 2019 1:52:57 GMT
"Unsolved Mysteries" back in the 1990s featured some stories about reincarnation, that seemed very convincing...
If reincarnation is BS, then I can't understand how those people were able to come up with many of the personal details of these past lives, that was impossible to find simply by going to their local libraries...
"Breaking open a bagged loaf of bread to eat the ends of the bread first"?
Come On, I've never heard of anyone doing that... So this person, just coincidentally happens to pick the one guy in all of history that actually did that extremely rare act, as his past life self?
There must be "something" legit going on with that phenomenon.
Maybe not souls living again... but being able to see into the past, at least.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on May 22, 2019 2:05:53 GMT
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Post by Eλευθερί on May 22, 2019 2:25:26 GMT
All living things are recycled collections of atomic particles and energy. Think of a face in a cloud. It is just what forms when a certain collection of elements combine in a particular way. The winds shift, and the face disappears. But another one can form from the same elements, over time. Or a tornado. Again, just a collection of elements combined in a particular way at a particular place and time. But just transiently. A few minutes later, and it disappears. But another one can form from the same elements. Or a rainbow. Or a flash of lightning. Or the sound of thunder. A human body is formed from proteins gathered together in a particular way, dictated by human DNA molecules, along with a collection of bacteria and other microbes that live on and within the human scaffolding and that are necessary for the human to thrive. The human being exists transiently. The human dies, the molecules of its body decompose into baser elements, which are recycled, and other beings can form from the same materials.
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Post by President Ackbar™ on May 22, 2019 4:28:11 GMT
Yes.
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Post by RiP, IMDb on May 22, 2019 4:30:39 GMT
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Post by goz on May 22, 2019 6:02:28 GMT
No. It can't work, for SO many reasons.
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Post by Vegas on May 22, 2019 8:27:33 GMT
No.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on May 22, 2019 9:13:06 GMT
I'm not sure, but then again I'm still not clear on the difference (if any) between the spirit and the soul.
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Post by permutojoe on May 22, 2019 11:28:56 GMT
All living things are recycled collections of atomic particles and energy. Think of a face in a cloud. It is just what forms when a certain collection of elements combine in a particular way. The winds shift, and the face disappears. But another one can form from the same elements, over time. Or a tornado. Again, just a collection of elements combined in a particular way at a particular place and time. But just transiently. A few minutes later, and it disappears. But another one can form from the same elements. Or a rainbow. Or a flash of lightning. Or the sound of thunder. A human body is formed from proteins gathered together in a particular way, dictated by human DNA molecules, along with a collection of bacteria and other microbes that live on and within the human scaffolding and that are necessary for the human to thrive. The human being exists transiently. The human dies, the molecules of its body decompose into baser elements, which are recycled, and other beings can form from the same materials. Seems like kind of an abstract definition of the term. If I build a sand castle and it washes away some time later, then someone a few beaches over builds another castle of the same type a week later, is that reincarnation? Not sure I see the point in even labeling it that.
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Post by The Lost One on May 22, 2019 11:35:23 GMT
How would it work. Why would it work? Western ideas of reincarnation are usually some variation of that if you conceive of people as being composed of mind and matter, and that the two can exist independently of one another, then in theory the mind could leave one set of matter and combine with another. The Vedanta idea of reincarnation is that the self (Atman) partakes of, or may even be identical with, eternal reality (Brahman). Therefore the Atman is itself eternal and cannot die though it may take many forms. Of course, the concept requires making some pretty hefty metaphysical assumptions to get it working. If you make those assumptions though I wouldn't say it's illogical (in the sense that I don't think there's any logical contradictions in accepting it).
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2019 15:03:33 GMT
How would it work. Why would it work? No I don't. Although the evidence is not conclusive, all evidence we have indicates that the mind is a product of the brain. As such there is no evidence for any kind of afterlife. Death is death, and that's the end of it.
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Post by lowtacks86 on May 22, 2019 17:34:26 GMT
No, so many things that don't make any sense.
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Post by heeeeey on May 22, 2019 18:55:21 GMT
How would it work. Why would it work? Yes, I believe some souls reincarnate. It's like a cycle or a trap that is difficult to escape. Jesus came here to teach people how.
That's one.
Two, it could be that this world is for evolving the soul through different life experiences.
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Post by Feologild Oakes on May 22, 2019 20:28:46 GMT
If there is something after death my guess would be on reincarnation.
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Post by goz on May 22, 2019 21:09:51 GMT
How would it work. Why would it work? Yes, I believe some souls reincarnate. It's like a cycle or a trap that is difficult to escape. Jesus came here to teach people how.
That's one.
Two, it could be that this world is for evolving the soul through different life experiences.
You didn't answer the OP's questions. What is the soul, and where is it located between hosts or bodies. Is the physical DNA of the bodies the same, since much of what makes us who we are is in our DNA? We inherit these abilities and ways of processing information in our brain due to the unique blend of our parent's DNA creating a new entity. How does this work with a new body?
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Post by heeeeey on May 22, 2019 21:56:01 GMT
Yes, I believe some souls reincarnate. It's like a cycle or a trap that is difficult to escape. Jesus came here to teach people how.
That's one.
Two, it could be that this world is for evolving the soul through different life experiences.
You didn't answer the OP's questions. What is the soul, and where is it located between hosts or bodies. Is the physical DNA of the bodies the same, since much of what makes us who we are is in our DNA? We inherit these abilities and ways of processing information in our brain due to the unique blend of our parent's DNA creating a new entity. How does this work with a new body? The soul is not a flesh body with DNA. You can't think outside of materialism.
The soul is energy and exists in an ethereal field or some other kind of energy field.
Aside from that, as the Trinity symbolizes, there are three bodies--the material, the soul, and the spirit body.
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Post by goz on May 22, 2019 22:05:16 GMT
You didn't answer the OP's questions. What is the soul, and where is it located between hosts or bodies. Is the physical DNA of the bodies the same, since much of what makes us who we are is in our DNA? We inherit these abilities and ways of processing information in our brain due to the unique blend of our parent's DNA creating a new entity. How does this work with a new body? The soul is not a flesh body with DNA. You can't think outside of materialism.
The soul is energy and exists in an ethereal field or some other kind of energy field.
Aside from that, as the Trinity symbolizes, there are three bodies--the material, the soul, and the spirit body.
How are the characteristics which make up the individual transferred, when they are the result of the mix of DNA? BTW materialism is provable or otherwise. 'ethereal fields 'are not, just fanciful, especially when they are diametrically opposed to actual evidence in the materialism.. Where is the source, carrier and focus of this 'energy'? (What kind of energy is it?) Graham recently gave you the low down on what ' electrical energy' is and that is the one which is the relevant one in this conversation because it is the one that powers the body, heart brain etc When that ceases we are dead.
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