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Post by Agent of Chaos on May 22, 2019 11:32:21 GMT
She laughed along with the other lords at Sam’s suggestion of democracy. This is basically what she was thinking.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 22, 2019 12:31:51 GMT
I love a woman with common sense
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 22, 2019 13:21:40 GMT
Yeah I have mixed feeling on her arc. (For the record the entire final season was a disaster.) I hated her in the books (and obviously the show in the early seasons), but she really turned it around these last two seasons. Sansa was one of the better characters this season, in all honesty. She argued and schemed in favor of her homeland and her people, not just herself (or so it seemed). Then when Bran inexplicably gets nominated for kingship, she decides the North should remain independent anyway. The North produces the new king and then immediately secedes from the union to protect its own interests. I don't know what's more hilarious, how selfish it makes Sansa look or how everyone else on the council accepts it without question.
Ultimately I enjoy how her journey as a character ends, but you can't help but question her motives in those final scenes.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 22, 2019 14:58:23 GMT
Yeah, and she got what she wanted too, didn't she?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 22, 2019 15:01:43 GMT
...how everyone else on the council accepts it without question. ^^^That's SOOOO what I thought! With Bran, a Stark, on the throne, what could be better to keep the entire realm together?!
But... wrap it up, I guess.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 22, 2019 15:30:14 GMT
Ultimately I enjoy how her journey as a character ends, but you can't help but question her motives in those final scenes. She's a good girl.
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Post by Rey Kahuka on May 22, 2019 15:49:40 GMT
Ultimately I enjoy how her journey as a character ends, but you can't help but question her motives in those final scenes. She's a good girl.
You raise an interesting point. I'm going to head canon Bran legally declaring her still a Stark.
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Post by Winter_King on May 22, 2019 16:17:30 GMT
...how everyone else on the council accepts it without question. ^^^That's SOOOO what I thought! With Bran, a Stark, on the throne, what could be better to keep the entire realm together?!
But... wrap it up, I guess.
Well one could assume that Jon is going to become King Beyond the Wall so you have Starks ruling the entire continent. A Time for Wolves indeed.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 22, 2019 16:28:30 GMT
You raise an interesting point. I'm going to head canon Bran legally declaring her still a Stark. I don't think he cares. He's busy looking for his air force. The marriage was never annulled so whenever a Maester writes the next History book, that's the name which will go down. And who knows, when Tyrion travels north to visit Jon, he's definitely going to stop at Winterfell and anything can happen. Bring on the sequel!
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Post by bluerisk on May 22, 2019 17:36:00 GMT
You raise an interesting point. I'm going to head canon Bran legally declaring her still a Stark. I don't think he cares. He's busy looking for his air force. The marriage was never annulled so whenever a Maester writes the next History book, that's the name which will go down. And who knows, when Tyrion travels north to visit Jon, he's definitely going to stop at Winterfell and anything can happen. Bring on the sequel! Yeah, the expensive chars are all death and beyond the wall. Tyrion can also die within the next few years...Sansa saving the rest of the realm, and uniting it after all. Dealing with the Iron Bank, which financed the enemies of the people of Westeros. From the War of the Roses to the Golden Age (=> Elizabeth I of England and the new World/ the Americas) There is an entire continent to discover (=> Sothoryos), and Arya is in her way to it...she could bring the news to Sansa. In history, we also did not develop democracy at once, but there were steps in between: like the prince electors of the Holy Roman Empire of German nation, or the Magna Charta in England. Step by step.
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Post by Leo of Red Keep on May 22, 2019 17:45:37 GMT
I don't think he cares. He's busy looking for his air force. The marriage was never annulled so whenever a Maester writes the next History book, that's the name which will go down. And who knows, when Tyrion travels north to visit Jon, he's definitely going to stop at Winterfell and anything can happen. Bring on the sequel! Yeah, the expensive chars are all death and beyond the wall. Tyrion can also die within the next few years...Sansa saving the rest of the realm, and uniting it after all. Dealing with the Iron Bank, which financed the enemies of the people of Westeros. The Iron Bank financed the defence against the foreign invader and tyrant. Bless them.
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Post by Marendil on May 22, 2019 18:08:45 GMT
I don't think he cares. He's busy looking for his air force. The marriage was never annulled so whenever a Maester writes the next History book, that's the name which will go down. And who knows, when Tyrion travels north to visit Jon, he's definitely going to stop at Winterfell and anything can happen. Bring on the sequel! Yeah, the expensive chars are all death and beyond the wall. Tyrion can also die within the next few years...Sansa saving the rest of the realm, and uniting it after all. Dealing with the Iron Bank, which financed the enemies of the people of Westeros. From the War of the Roses to the Golden Age (=> Elizabeth I of England and the new World/ the Americas) There is an entire continent to discover (=> Sothoryos), and Arya is in her way to it...she could bring the news to Sansa. In history, we also did not develop democracy at once, but there were steps in between: like the prince electors of the Holy Roman Empire of German nation, or the Magna Charta in England. Step by step. That's an old map, officially it's not known how far Essos extends eastward, it might be like Asia and be quite a bit more extensive. The Jade Sea might be more akin to the Black Sea. Here's a map that's more likely to be up to date:
I don't think she's headed to Southyros, I think she's going west and it's not inconceivable she could run into relatives there:
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 22, 2019 18:39:03 GMT
Ultimately I enjoy how her journey as a character ends, but you can't help but question her motives in those final scenes. She's a good girl.
shes a very good girl and a very good ruler /queen , its always funny when some fans criticize her or complain about her and usually they cant even justify as to why . dany/jonerys fans got a big time slap in the face, first sansa survives and then she became QUEEN that is priceless , for years fans would put down sansa say the most despicable things and wanted her dead in fact they were predicting her death since season 1 and she did survive them all and she did it in a way that is admirable unlike others who went on burning rants.
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Post by jon snow loves sansa on May 22, 2019 18:41:07 GMT
You raise an interesting point. I'm going to head canon Bran legally declaring her still a Stark. I don't think he cares. He's busy looking for his air force. The marriage was never annulled so whenever a Maester writes the next History book, that's the name which will go down. And who knows, when Tyrion travels north to visit Jon, he's definitely going to stop at Winterfell and anything can happen. Bring on the sequel! the story is definitely not over- door is open and kit harinton expressed interest working with Sophie again. if they do a sequel hope they bring back same actors i think years from now when the frenzy dies down a bit anything can happen .
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 22, 2019 19:23:24 GMT
^^^That's SOOOO what I thought! With Bran, a Stark, on the throne, what could be better to keep the entire realm together?!
But... wrap it up, I guess.
Well one could assume that Jon is going to become King Beyond the Wall so you have Starks ruling the entire continent. A Time for Wolves indeed. Thats another thing. The Free Folk had already accepted Jon as King in the North so wtf? With the whole council having chosen Bran he could have ruled the whole shebang, Westeros, the North and the Far North.
It wasn't enough for Sansa to be Lady of Winterfell? They wrote Sansa to be a bit self serving and a bit of a trouble maker at the end there. Why didn't anybody ever tell her to just shut up?
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Post by lenlenlen1 on May 22, 2019 19:26:06 GMT
Ultimately I enjoy how her journey as a character ends, but you can't help but question her motives in those final scenes. She's a good girl.
Yeah, and technically Sansa and Tyrion are still MARRIED!!! There was never a divorce or annulment, disolusion or anything. They're married!
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Post by pk9 on May 22, 2019 20:07:24 GMT
The showrunners would like us to believe that the new ruling arrangements resulted in the end of bloodshed in Westeros, except from all we know of Sansa, you gotta think her first act as Queen in the North will be to inspire someone to write "The Rains of Deepwood Motte"...
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Post by shinnickneth on May 22, 2019 21:08:14 GMT
Yeah, and technically Sansa and Tyrion are still MARRIED!!! There was never a divorce or annulment, disolusion or anything. They're married! No, they wouldn't be. They never consummated the marriage (that's why they have the "bedding ceremony" in Westeros so there's proof of the act), so that's why Sansa was able to marry Ramsay...she's a widow though.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on May 22, 2019 22:05:34 GMT
Yeah I have mixed feeling on her arc. (For the record the entire final season was a disaster.) I hated her in the books (and obviously the show in the early seasons), but she really turned it around these last two seasons. Sansa was one of the better characters this season, in all honesty. She argued and schemed in favor of her homeland and her people, not just herself (or so it seemed). Then when Bran inexplicably gets nominated for kingship, she decides the North should remain independent anyway. The North produces the new king and then immediately secedes from the union to protect its own interests. I don't know what's more hilarious, how selfish it makes Sansa look or how everyone else on the council accepts it without question. Ultimately I enjoy how her journey as a character ends, but you can't help but question her motives in those final scenes. I agree with all of this, actually.
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Post by Marv on May 22, 2019 22:36:01 GMT
I didn’t get that vibe at all.
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