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Post by louise on Jun 14, 2019 21:05:56 GMT
I don't remember any woodshed scenes in films, but I do remember William Powell saying something about a woodshed before he spanks Myrna Loy will a rolled up newspaper in The Thin Man Goes Home.
In general though I don't think corporal punishment is likely to make children better behaved. Certainly it’s true that it was just as common in past times in Britain as in America, definitely not just an America’s thing.
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Post by louise on Jun 14, 2019 21:09:07 GMT
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Post by The Herald Erjen on Jun 15, 2019 0:06:08 GMT
This is the only one I can remember, doc. Didn't know it had a different connotation for Yanks than Brits, but I do remember some rather brutal child-beating scenes from "Young Winston," "Damn the Defiant," and "Mutiny in the Trenches," so how about do us all a favor and not pretend that beating kids is an American-only thing?
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Post by snsurone on Jun 15, 2019 23:57:25 GMT
Boy, do I remember that episode of THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW! How can an otherwise intelligent father be so clueless? I like to think that spoiled brat received the "whupping" of his life!
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Post by mattgarth on Jun 16, 2019 0:16:51 GMT
GOODBYE MR. CHIPS (1939) -- temporary Headmaster Mr. Chips (Robert Donat) does apply punishment to a Brookfield student who falsefy accuses WW1-era instructors of shirking their patriotic duty.
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Post by louise on Jun 16, 2019 12:45:16 GMT
GOODBYE MR. CHIPS (1939) -- temporary Headmaster Mr. Chips (Robert Donat) does apply punishment to a Brookfield student who falsefy accuses WW1 instructors of shirking their patriotic duty. Corporal punishment was commonplace in British schools up until the 1970s. In independent schools, the prefect system meant that not only teachers but older pupils who were prefects had license to beat younger pupils. I think there is a scene in some film set in a school where prefects are shown beating another pupil, possibly If, or maybe it was Another Country.
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Post by snsurone on Jun 16, 2019 13:43:00 GMT
Probably the best example was HOW GREEN WAS MY VALLEY, where Huw is brutally beaten by the sadistic schoolmaster for taking on the school bully. What was unusual is that the bully (who apparently received the same whippings) helped Huw by pushing his handkerchief into Huws mouth to muffle his cries--which was what the schoolmaster thrived on. The following scene showed Huw's relatives beating the schoolmaster to a bloody pulp!
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Post by mattgarth on Jun 16, 2019 14:07:16 GMT
More educational caning -- in THE ADVENTURES OF TOM SAWYER, cruel schoolmaster Olin Howland punishes Tom for the unflattering slate drawing (he was covering for Becky Thatcher). "How could you be so noble," she messages him afterwards.
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Post by snsurone on Jun 20, 2019 15:31:28 GMT
I don't think that Becky would have been whipped on her behind, as Tom was. Most likely, she would have been hit on her hand.
It's like an early scene in LITTLE WOMEN, where Amy was whipped on her hand.
In most 19th century schools, girls were taught by women while the boys were taught (and disciplined) by men. Only in poorer rural areas were there co-ed classrooms.
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Post by divtal on Jun 20, 2019 19:53:42 GMT
The only such scene that I can remember from a serious plot line is Sally Field having to discipline her son in Places in the Heart, which Matt Garth already mentioned. I further remember that, as she was recently widowed and physical discipline fell to her husband, she had to ask her son's instruction on how it was done. How did he position himself? How many lashes would the transgression have received from his father?
The closing credits in The Bad Seed feature an absolutely ridiculous over-the-knee spanking, administered by film mother, Nancy Kelly, to film daughter, Patty McCormick. It's wholly out of context with the film, being carried out with "good natured" giggles. So stupid ... but, I guess a "sign of the times," from the early 50's.
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Post by snsurone on Jul 9, 2019 17:21:22 GMT
The only such scene that I can remember from a serious plot line is Sally Field having to discipline her son in Places in the Heart, which Matt Garth already mentioned. I further remember that, as she was recently widowed and physical discipline fell to her husband, she had to ask her son's instruction on how it was done. How did he position himself? How many lashes would the transgression have received from his father? The closing credits in The Bad Seed feature an absolutely ridiculous over-the-knee spanking, administered by film mother, Nancy Kelly, to film daughter, Patty McCormick. It's wholly out of context with the film, being carried out with "good natured" giggles. So stupid ... but, I guess a "sign of the times," from the early 50's. As far as I know, THE BAD SEED was the only movie that resorted to such foolishness. I suppose the reason was to prevent audiences from taking the plot too seriously. It's possible that the original stage play had an identical "curtain call", although in the play, the killer brat escaped punishment, while the film, under the rules of the Hay's Office, would never permit that. As a result, Rhoda Pembroke was struck dead by a lightening bolt! How ridiculous and unimaginative could producers be??
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