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Post by maya55555 on May 24, 2019 19:51:37 GMT
WELL?
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2019 20:02:15 GMT
Don't know who he is...
But the seal of confession is total, it can't be broken.
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Post by maya55555 on May 25, 2019 1:03:04 GMT
The state wants it broken.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 11:23:07 GMT
Seems reasonable. Can anybody give a good reason why clergy should be allowed to let child abuse go unreported?
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Post by Isapop on May 25, 2019 14:16:24 GMT
Interesting fact that I just learned: For about twenty years or more, there have been seven states (New Hampshire, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas and West Virginia) that require priests to report child abuse that they learned about in the confessional. In other words seven states specifically deny the clergy-penitent privilege in child abuse cases.
I'm not aware of the U.S. bishops from those areas fighting against passage of those laws in the past or fighting to repeal them now. So, why should anyone take the objections of clergy in California seriously? (Of course, if you have evidence that those bishops are making such a fight, that would be different.)
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 14:49:10 GMT
Interesting fact that I just learned: For about twenty years or more, there have been seven states (New Hampshire, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas and West Virginia) that require priests to report child abuse that they learned about in the confessional. In other words seven states specifically deny the clergy-penitent privilege in child abuse cases.
I'm not aware of the U.S. bishops from those areas fighting against passage of those laws in the past or fighting to repeal them now. So, why should anyone take the objections of clergy in California seriously? (Of course, if you have evidence that those bishops are making such a fight, that would be different.)
When were those laws passed, though? Lately in the US there is a wide belief that religion is a ticket to being able to do whatever you like, free of all consequence. Times, they are a'changin.
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Post by Isapop on May 25, 2019 15:05:40 GMT
Interesting fact that I just learned: For about twenty years or more, there have been seven states (New Hampshire, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Tennessee, Texas and West Virginia) that require priests to report child abuse that they learned about in the confessional. In other words seven states specifically deny the clergy-penitent privilege in child abuse cases.
I'm not aware of the U.S. bishops from those areas fighting against passage of those laws in the past or fighting to repeal them now. So, why should anyone take the objections of clergy in California seriously? (Of course, if you have evidence that those bishops are making such a fight, that would be different.)
When were those laws passed, though? They were passed before 2002 (that's all I know).Just how much the law should accommodate religion has always been subject to debate, and it always makes the front page whenever some new situation arises. But if the Catholic Church really finds the proposed California bill so abhorrent, where were all their lawsuits claiming freedom of religion from those other 7 states (as well as other evidence of a fight)?
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Post by CrepedCrusader on May 25, 2019 15:55:27 GMT
So...you are in favor of priests being aware of child abuse and doing nothing about it?
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Post by maya55555 on May 25, 2019 17:22:13 GMT
It would seem that no one viewed this video.
Immediately you have turned this case into the only thing that you know.
Idiots.
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Post by Isapop on May 25, 2019 19:25:01 GMT
It would seem that no one viewed this video. You're wrong. I watched it.
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Post by OldSamVimes on May 25, 2019 20:50:48 GMT
Seems reasonable. Can anybody give a good reason why clergy should be allowed to let child abuse go unreported? If the Gods didn't want children to be molested they wouldn't have made them so darn attractive. Is it a sin to eat a ripe fruit? In some cultures children as young as 7 are considered to be fair game sexually.. Much of the world follows a religion where the main prophet boinked children.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 21:28:01 GMT
Seems reasonable. Can anybody give a good reason why clergy should be allowed to let child abuse go unreported? If the Gods didn't want children to be molested they wouldn't have made them so darn attractive. Is it a sin to eat a ripe fruit? In some cultures children as young as 7 are considered to be fair game sexually.. Much of the world follows a religion where the main prophet boinked children. Excuse me, I suddenly feel like I need a shower.
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Post by maya55555 on May 25, 2019 22:59:04 GMT
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Shut up and go to hell!
You will deliberately NEVER understand what is at stake here. All you see is that I posted a video and you click into a hate/attack mode, dolt.
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Post by The Herald Erjen on May 25, 2019 23:01:19 GMT
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Shut up and go to hell!
You will deliberately NEVER understand what is at stake here. All you see is that I posted a video and you click into a hate/attack mode, dolt. It's why I put that trash on ignore, M. He's pure evil straight from Hell.
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Post by OldSamVimes on May 26, 2019 1:12:14 GMT
If the Gods didn't want children to be molested they wouldn't have made them so darn attractive. Is it a sin to eat a ripe fruit? In some cultures children as young as 7 are considered to be fair game sexually.. Much of the world follows a religion where the main prophet boinked children. Excuse me, I suddenly feel like I need a shower. Now you know how the child brides of Muhammad felt. No matter how holy the penis is when you're under ten years old it probably still feels dirty.
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Post by maya55555 on May 26, 2019 1:42:36 GMT
WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING PEDOPHILIA!
WE AQRE DISCUSSING THE ELIMINATION OF ONE OF THE MAJOR TENENTS OF THE RCC BY THE STATE!
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Post by yougotastewgoinbaby on May 26, 2019 9:06:29 GMT
WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING PEDOPHILIA!
WE AQRE DISCUSSING THE ELIMINATION OF ONE OF THE MAJOR TENENTS OF THE RCC BY THE STATE! But pedophilia is a major tenet of the RCC. |
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Post by Zos on May 26, 2019 10:07:09 GMT
Don't know who he is... But the seal of confession is total, it can't be broken. Is there not some form of duty to reveal murder now? Sure I read that somewhere. (I know it doesn't refer to this situation)
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Post by Isapop on May 26, 2019 10:21:20 GMT
WE AQRE DISCUSSING THE ELIMINATION OF ONE OF THE MAJOR TENENTS OF THE RCC BY THE STATE! And I have mentioned "THE ELIMINATION OF ONE OF THE MAJOR TENENTS OF THE RCC" in the past by seven states, and the apparent lack of will by the RCC to mount a fight over it. In view of that, my question remains: why should anyone take the objections of clergy in California seriously now?
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 10:26:13 GMT
WE AQRE DISCUSSING THE ELIMINATION OF ONE OF THE MAJOR TENENTS OF THE RCC BY THE STATE! And I have mentioned "THE ELIMINATION OF ONE OF THE MAJOR TENENTS OF THE RCC" in the past by seven states, and the apparent lack of will by the RCC to mount a fight over it. In view of that, my question remains: why should anyone take the objections of clergy in California seriously now?
They may have passed a law. Priests won't adhere to it... They are sacred bound to keep the confessional secret... even under threat of torture or death. |
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