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Post by goz on May 25, 2019 8:25:57 GMT
I feel your pain. As an animal lover, a greenie dedicated to lessening my footprint on the earth (says she who is about to travel on a long flight and back) and also for health reasons, I can understand where you are coming from.
My solution ( and I am a pretty good cook) is to not make a grand statement, just lessen the amount of meat I actually eat. Given an option, I take the one with the most vegetables and the least meat. I probably eat meat about once a week, chicken once and fish once and the rest is vegetarian. It is lucky that I adore fruit and veggies and love to prepare them. It is true that vegetarian recipes take a bit more effort, though ANYONE can boil or microwave or bake vegetables in the oven in a little oliveoil. ANYONE can make a great salad of all the healthy things with a tasty dressing on it to wash it down.
My friends laugh at me when I am travelling as I order the vegetarian breakfast with bacon occasionally, and it really annoys me in restaurants where you only get the 'meat main' and have to order veges on the side, as I prefer it the other way around.
So my advice to you is to cut down on your meat. Use eggs and avocado for protein and fish and have at least 5 different veges on your plate for variety and health. It is summer in the US, get a good salad book and buy heaps of fresh veges on hand to play with. It can be really fun. Also don't sniff your nose up at frozen veg. They are snap frozen and very nutritious.
Also to be able to cook vegetarian, you don't actually need to be able to cook very well, it is just as good to 'assemble' food into tasty salads and vegetable dishes with the right ingredients.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 8:58:05 GMT
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 25, 2019 12:18:34 GMT
While have no issues eating meat, I think Americans at least are probably eating too much of it.
I basically cut all my meat options in half (1/2 a breast instead of a whole, 1 or 2 pieces of bacon instead of 3 or 4, etc...) as a start and we usually have a veggie night for dinner.
But again, I have no reason to stop eating meat.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 12:31:47 GMT
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Post by Zos on May 25, 2019 12:37:50 GMT
Have been Vegetarian for coming up to 40 years now. I feel it impossible to understand how any supposed animal lovers could eat meat when there are so many healthy alternatives available. When I started it was very difficult as you were considered almost an extremist but now the choice of alternatives available is massive and there is no excuse at all if you care for animals lives and suffering. My wife is full vegan, suffers from bad COPD and switched from vegetarian to vegan actually through medical consultation. I am probably about 80% vegan now but can't see me switching entirely.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on May 25, 2019 15:09:06 GMT
Green Giant has just now come out with three vegetable protein bowls, frozen. Easy, peasy! And, yeah, peas are protein! Legumes, grains and veggies equal complete vegetable protein.
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Post by Catman on May 25, 2019 20:59:15 GMT
Catman uses MorningStar Farms products. Lately they have been reformulating their products to be vegan.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 21:07:23 GMT
Catman uses MorningStar Farms products. You buy your food from Lucifer 😲
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Post by Catman on May 25, 2019 21:09:03 GMT
Catman uses MorningStar Farms products. You buy your food from Lucifer 😲 Hey, it tastes good, so ...
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Post by OldSamVimes on May 25, 2019 21:13:14 GMT
From my perspective death is an illusion and militant vegans are basically preaching spiritual regression.
Ironically, vegans are one of the most bloodthirsty groups on the internet, figuratively speaking.
If you don't like things eating other things you must really hate the Universe.
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Post by goz on May 25, 2019 21:57:23 GMT
I don't get why you have to be 'vegan'. Milk and eggs are some of the best foods available to humans and don't harm animals.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2019 22:43:09 GMT
I don't get why you have to be 'vegan'. Milk and eggs are some of the best foods available to humans and don't harm animals. Bloody hell... don't harm animals. You've got to be shitting me... You really believe that?
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Post by goz on May 26, 2019 4:44:54 GMT
I don't get why you have to be 'vegan'. Milk and eggs are some of the best foods available to humans and don't harm animals. Bloody hell... don't harm animals. You've got to be shitting me... You really believe that? Milking a cow (goat sheep ect) is an age old tradition on which many cultures have survived, that does no harm to that animal, neither does keeping chickens for their eggs. I have until recently done it myself until the bloody fox had a go at them...bloody Englishmen bring their bloody foxes and rabbits to our unprepared land!
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 5:37:57 GMT
Bloody hell... don't harm animals. You've got to be shitting me... You really believe that? Milking a cow (goat sheep ect) is an age old tradition on which many cultures have survived, that does no harm to that animal, neither does keeping chickens for their eggs. I have until recently done it myself until the bloody fox had a go at them...bloody Englishmen bring their bloody foxes and rabbits to our unprepared land! Jesus... How naive are you? What do you think happens to all the male chicks born in the egg industry? I'll warn you, it's not pleasant.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 5:45:28 GMT
Milking a cow (goat sheep ect) is an age old tradition on which many cultures have survived, that does no harm to that animal, neither does keeping chickens for their eggs. I have until recently done it myself until the bloody fox had a go at them...bloody Englishmen bring their bloody foxes and rabbits to our unprepared land! Jesus... How naive and brainwashed are you? What do you think happens to all the male chicks born in the egg industry? I'll warn you, it's not pleasant. Once that's sunk in, we shall move on to the horrors of dairy. Dairy and eggs is as violent, cruel, and murderous as meat. To not eat meat on the grounds of compassion, but continuing to eat eggs and dairy is insane, and the realm of self delusion. They are equally horrific.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on May 26, 2019 13:57:37 GMT
Jesus... How naive and brainwashed are you? What do you think happens to all the male chicks born in the egg industry? I'll warn you, it's not pleasant. Once that's sunk in, we shall move on to the horrors of dairy. Dairy and eggs is as violent, cruel, and murderous as meat. To not eat meat on the grounds of compassion, but continuing to eat eggs and dairy is insane, and the realm of self delusion. They are equally horrific. No way am I watching that, Ned. I already know. I will never forget the time I went with my veterinarian to a pig farm; he had developed some new way of preg-checking pigs earlier, and he wanted a video shot for promotional purposes. I could barely stand it. I shot the film, but as we were leaving, the constant screaming got to me, and I blurted out, "Now do you know why I'm vegetarian?" He just said, "What?" He couldn't hear me over the screaming. It was a business to him, he had come to terms with it, but I just couldn't.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 14:15:54 GMT
Once that's sunk in, we shall move on to the horrors of dairy. Dairy and eggs is as violent, cruel, and murderous as meat. To not eat meat on the grounds of compassion, but continuing to eat eggs and dairy is insane, and the realm of self delusion. They are equally horrific. No way am I watching that, Ned. I already know. I will never forget the time I went with my veterinarian to a pig farm; he had developed some new way of preg-checking pigs earlier, and he wanted a video shot for promotional purposes. I could barely stand it. I shot the film, but as we were leaving, the constant screaming got to me, and I blurted out, "Now do you know why I'm vegetarian?" He just said, "What?" He couldn't hear me over the screaming. It was a business to him, he had come to terms with it, but I just couldn't. You should hear mother cows and calves screaming after being torn apart at birth, so that vile humans can steal the calf's milk. The male calf's are killed as 'waste'. The mother is then raped again, and again, and again. You aren't a baby cow... Ditch dairy!
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on May 26, 2019 18:18:19 GMT
Catman uses MorningStar Farms products. You buy your food from Lucifer 😲 Really? I thought Morningstar Farms is a good thing...
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2019 18:23:52 GMT
You buy your food from Lucifer 😲 Really? I thought Morningstar Farms is a good thing... It was a flippant religious comment (this is the RFS board)... Lucifer is the morning star.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on May 26, 2019 18:53:50 GMT
Really? I thought Morningstar Farms is a good thing... It was a flippant religious comment (this is the RFS board)... Lucifer is the morning star. Ah hah! I did not know that! They didn't talk much about Lucifer in Southern Baptist Sunday School.
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