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Post by lordarvidthexiii on May 31, 2019 21:02:03 GMT
Why couldn’t the Faceless Men refuse a dragon? It doesn’t matter if they have access to the Iron Bank if she simply destroys the ruler asking for money. That money becomes her money. Of course the debt would becomes hers too. To chase after the Iron Bank as some kind of weird go around would be as bizarre as trying to force the Faceless Men to kill for you 1. Because it would destroy thier temple. 2. Yeah, it does since someone could always hire hitmen and they could very likely use Iron Bank gold. 3. Which makes it nice to get rid of. 4. Nope, it isn't chasing, its doing a quick action to gain advantages, including a way to get allies indebted to you.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on May 31, 2019 21:27:42 GMT
Why couldn’t the Faceless Men refuse a dragon? It doesn’t matter if they have access to the Iron Bank if she simply destroys the ruler asking for money. That money becomes her money. Of course the debt would becomes hers too. To chase after the Iron Bank as some kind of weird go around would be as bizarre as trying to force the Faceless Men to kill for you 1. Because it would destroy thier temple. 2. Yeah, it does since someone could always hire hitmen and they could very likely use Iron Bank gold. 3. Which makes it nice to get rid of. 4. Nope, it isn't chasing, its doing a quick action to gain advantages, including a way to get allies indebted to you. 1. So you think Dany can force them to assassinate someone and then they would never do anything about it? 2. Again the Iron Bank does not just have money sitting in a vault. You could destroy the building and never touch the money. 3. Again to get rid of the Iron Bank, even if it were possible which it’s not, would be getting rid of credit options. 4. It would be quicker to destroy KL with dragons than stealing money from the bank, destroy Braavos (a city that survived a country full of dragons), and forcing assassins to kill for you. But congratulations you have managed to create a whole other season of material!
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Post by lordarvidthexiii on Jun 2, 2019 16:54:41 GMT
1. Because it would destroy thier temple. 2. Yeah, it does since someone could always hire hitmen and they could very likely use Iron Bank gold. 3. Which makes it nice to get rid of. 4. Nope, it isn't chasing, its doing a quick action to gain advantages, including a way to get allies indebted to you. 1. So you think Dany can force them to assassinate someone and then they would never do anything about it? 2. Again the Iron Bank does not just have money sitting in a vault. You could destroy the building and never touch the money. 3. Again to get rid of the Iron Bank, even if it were possible which it’s not, would be getting rid of credit options. 4. It would be quicker to destroy KL with dragons than stealing money from the bank, destroy Braavos (a city that survived a country full of dragons), and forcing assassins to kill for you. But congratulations you have managed to create a whole other season of material! Dani wouldn't be that rich since Meeren was a poor city. She got rid of their chief export and industry. So no, she could use the money. 1. Yes when you are staring down 50,000+ Dothraki and 3 dragons. 10,000+Dothraki are always viewed as too much trouble and are bribed off. 50,000+ and 3 dragons will get a much higher price. 2. The Iron bank will have at least a million on hand given the size and power of the bank. Take it, and make other agreements. 3. Threaten and get what you want. 4. No, it wouldn't. 10,000 Dothraki are always paid off. 50,000+ and 3 dragons will do better.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Jun 2, 2019 17:01:51 GMT
1. So you think Dany can force them to assassinate someone and then they would never do anything about it? 2. Again the Iron Bank does not just have money sitting in a vault. You could destroy the building and never touch the money. 3. Again to get rid of the Iron Bank, even if it were possible which it’s not, would be getting rid of credit options. 4. It would be quicker to destroy KL with dragons than stealing money from the bank, destroy Braavos (a city that survived a country full of dragons), and forcing assassins to kill for you. But congratulations you have managed to create a whole other season of material! Dani wouldn't be that rich since Meeren was a poor city. She got rid of their chief export and industry. So no, she could use the money. 1. Yes when you are staring down 50,000+ Dothraki and 3 dragons. 10,000+Dothraki are always viewed as too much trouble and are bribed off. 50,000+ and 3 dragons will get a much higher price. 2. The Iron bank will have at least a million on hand given the size and power of the bank. Take it, and make other agreements. 3. Threaten and get what you want. 4. No, it wouldn't. 10,000 Dothraki are always paid off. 50,000+ and 3 dragons will do better. 1. Mereen was not a poor city. The slavers homes were several hundred feet tall pyramids. It was the wealthiest city in Slaver Bay. On top of that she had she already had money by taking the richest man in Qarth's riches plus the wealth of Astapor. Dany was as wealthy as a Lannister if not more so (Although in the show, the Lannisters are actually broke). 2. She doesn;t need the Iron Bank's money. Of course, she could certainly pretend to rob it for a fraction of their money for no reason whatsoever since it's your story. 3.Threaten and receive more threats 4. 2 seasons?
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Post by lordarvidthexiii on Jun 2, 2019 17:37:00 GMT
Dani wouldn't be that rich since Meeren was a poor city. She got rid of their chief export and industry. So no, she could use the money. 1. Yes when you are staring down 50,000+ Dothraki and 3 dragons. 10,000+Dothraki are always viewed as too much trouble and are bribed off. 50,000+ and 3 dragons will get a much higher price. 2. The Iron bank will have at least a million on hand given the size and power of the bank. Take it, and make other agreements. 3. Threaten and get what you want. 4. No, it wouldn't. 10,000 Dothraki are always paid off. 50,000+ and 3 dragons will do better. 1. Mereen was not a poor city. The slavers homes were several hundred feet tall pyramids. It was the wealthiest city in Slaver Bay. On top of that she had she already had money by taking the richest man in Qarth's riches plus the wealth of Astapor. Dany was as wealthy as a Lannister if not more so (Although in the show, the Lannisters are actually broke). 2. She doesn;t need the Iron Bank's money. Of course, she could certainly pretend to rob it for a fraction of their money for no reason whatsoever since it's your story. 3.Threaten and receive more threats 4. 2 seasons? "1. Mereen was not a poor city. The slavers homes were several hundred feet tall pyramids. It was the wealthiest city in Slaver Bay." And much of that wealth was tied up in the form of slaves. "On top of that she had she already had money by taking the richest man in Qarth's riches" He wasn't the richest man, only a con man who had convinced everyone he was the richest. His vault was empty. "plus the wealth of Astapor." Again, slaves were the primary form of wealth. "Dany was as wealthy as a Lannister if not more so" Doubtful, given she was feeding her army and all those refugees, along with a large mercenary army. "(Although in the show, the Lannisters are actually broke)." Not so much broke, but becoming bankers. They are dipping into their savings. "2. She doesn;t need the Iron Bank's money." What is needed and what is helpful are 2 different things. "3.Threaten and receive more threats" Only if the demands are too painful. Otherwise, Bravos will be happy to pay greenmail if it stops Dani. "4. 2 seasons?" Not if the maneuver is done right.
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Post by pk9 on Jul 23, 2019 23:00:04 GMT
The best use of that secret entrance would be to hire 3 facelessmen, have them slip Cersia a nasty aborticant and let nature kill 2 birds with one stone. Or the hitmen could kidnap Cersie. "Regarding what actually happened, I was not aware that people were actually thinking Dany had to do what she did and thus was offering the stealth version as an alternative." I was thinking more what they should have done with a little planning and forthought. Speaking of forthought, Dani shouldn't have went straight to Dragonstone, but did a supply raid of Bravos. She could have demanded money from the Iron Bank, demand all debts owed by Westross to the Iron Bank be transfered to her (she can then forgive or reduce the debts as way to gain popularity[If she really wants to be diplomatic, take over the Iron Bank's franchise in Westross]) and she could hire some facelessmen. Or, yknow, she could have used the one FM that she already had, who already had made it know that it was her intention to kill Cersei, and also coincidentally already knew about the secret passage into the Red Keep.
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