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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Oct 28, 2023 3:29:55 GMT
So instead of hiring people who are already small and can act they intentionally blew their budget up to create badly looking CGI characters. Genius.
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Post by darkpast on Oct 28, 2023 6:00:49 GMT
So instead of hiring people who are already small and can act they intentionally blew their budget up to create badly looking CGI characters instead. Genius. i think they shot the movie with real actors, but after backlash changed to keebler elves/ dwarfs freaks
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Post by forca85 on Oct 28, 2023 17:16:54 GMT
Anand now it's delayed to 2025... They are probably breathing a sigh of relief that Rachel can't go on the Promo circuit.
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Post by Roberto on Oct 28, 2023 22:24:57 GMT
Is that real? They did reshoots and changed the weirdo humans back to dwarves?
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Post by darkpast on Oct 29, 2023 5:46:55 GMT
Anand now it's delayed to 2025... They are probably breathing a sigh of relief that Rachel can't go on the Promo circuit. it was shot in early 2022, unless its an Avatar film , we know something is definitely wrong
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Post by Pangolin on Oct 29, 2023 14:57:26 GMT
Alternative Snow White played by a conservative Youtube commentator:
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Post by amyghost on Oct 29, 2023 15:44:49 GMT
The damn thing looks godawful and ill-conceived. Best they just bury it altogether and move on to something else.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Nov 2, 2023 23:22:32 GMT
Anand now it's delayed to 2025... They are probably breathing a sigh of relief that Rachel can't go on the Promo circuit. Her vanilla, circa 1992 feminst statements are just too edgy for this world.
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Post by moviebuffbrad on Nov 2, 2023 23:25:38 GMT
Alternative Snow White played by a conservative Youtube commentator: More importantly, played by someone who's all European. So if you got shitty live action remake needs but can't handle diversity, this is the movie for you.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 3, 2023 21:11:53 GMT
The funniest thing about the outrage against Rachel Zegler has been all these people acting like they give a shit about Snow White, as if she and Sleeping Beauty weren’t the most boring Disney Princesses of all time. At least with Ariel, I could sort of buy that some people might’ve been genuinely angry, but since when was it sacrilege to point out that Snow White is a story that hasn’t aged especially well?
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Post by Pangolin on Nov 3, 2023 22:40:59 GMT
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 3, 2023 22:49:13 GMT
The funniest thing about the outrage against Rachel Zegler has been all these people acting like they give a shit about Snow White, as if she and Sleeping Beauty weren’t the most boring Disney Princesses of all time. At least with Ariel, I could sort of buy that some people might’ve been genuinely angry, but since when was it sacrilege to point out that Snow White is a story that hasn’t aged especially well? Because Snow White and the Seven Dwarves is an iconic motion picture that was historically the first full-length animated feature produced and it has stayed relatively fresh in the general public's conscious for nearly 100 years. While the movie is fairly old, there is something quite rich about its simplicity that is largely missing from many other fairy tale based films that have come out since then, including other adaptations of the original story. For example, the film can be viewed as a biblical allegory of sorts (which is quite fitting, as the original Brothers Grimm tale also has allusions to the Bible), linkSometimes, less is more. You don't need to explore every detail.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 4, 2023 0:58:50 GMT
The funniest thing about the outrage against Rachel Zegler has been all these people acting like they give a shit about Snow White, as if she and Sleeping Beauty weren’t the most boring Disney Princesses of all time. At least with Ariel, I could sort of buy that some people might’ve been genuinely angry, but since when was it sacrilege to point out that Snow White is a story that hasn’t aged especially well? Because Snow White and the Seven Dwarves is an iconic motion picture that was historically the first full-length animated feature produced and it has stayed relatively fresh in the general public's conscious for nearly 100 years. While the movie is fairly old, there is something quite rich about its simplicity that is largely missing from many other fairy tale based films that have come out since then, including other adaptations of the original story. For example, the film can be viewed as a biblical allegory of sorts (which is quite fitting, as the original Brothers Grimm tale also has allusions to the Bible), linkSometimes, less is more. You don't need to explore every detail. I’m aware of the history of the movie. That doesn’t mean all these people mad about Rachel Zegler and the remake actually gave a crap about Snow White. Sorry, but I don’t at all believe that the Daily Wire movie exists for any reason other than pure spite.
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Post by pennypacker on Nov 4, 2023 1:16:49 GMT
The funniest thing about the outrage against Rachel Zegler has been all these people acting like they give a shit about Snow White, as if she and Sleeping Beauty weren’t the most boring Disney Princesses of all time. At least with Ariel, I could sort of buy that some people might’ve been genuinely angry, but since when was it sacrilege to point out that Snow White is a story that hasn’t aged especially well? I respect Snow White’s place in cinema history - but no one cares about the character. She was never anyone’s favourite princess, she is the least interesting thing about her own story.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 4, 2023 16:32:27 GMT
The funniest thing about the outrage against Rachel Zegler has been all these people acting like they give a shit about Snow White, as if she and Sleeping Beauty weren’t the most boring Disney Princesses of all time. At least with Ariel, I could sort of buy that some people might’ve been genuinely angry, but since when was it sacrilege to point out that Snow White is a story that hasn’t aged especially well? I respect Snow White’s place in cinema history - but no one cares about the character. She was never anyone’s favourite princess, she is the least interesting thing about her own story. My point exactly. Snow White is a boring blank slate of a character, so the idea that people would be outraged at Disney and Rachel Ziegler for supposedly bastardizing her is ridiculous. People are just using the Disney remake as more fodder in their culture war crap, because they have a bone to pick with Disney. I seriously doubt that Ben Shapiro is making a Snow White movie because he’s passionate about the material.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 4, 2023 17:35:25 GMT
Because Snow White and the Seven Dwarves is an iconic motion picture that was historically the first full-length animated feature produced and it has stayed relatively fresh in the general public's conscious for nearly 100 years. While the movie is fairly old, there is something quite rich about its simplicity that is largely missing from many other fairy tale based films that have come out since then, including other adaptations of the original story. For example, the film can be viewed as a biblical allegory of sorts (which is quite fitting, as the original Brothers Grimm tale also has allusions to the Bible), linkSometimes, less is more. You don't need to explore every detail. I’m aware of the history of the movie. That doesn’t mean all these people mad about Rachel Zegler and the remake actually gave a crap about Snow White. Sorry, but I don’t at all believe that the Daily Wire movie exists for any reason other than pure spite. Well, from my perspective nine times out of 10 the criticisms directed towards the movie are its deviations from the original movie and that it is yet another unnecessary and bloated retelling that Disney has been frequently making. Besides that? Not everyone likes Zegler's personality- I have already given reasons why earlier in this very topic. As for The Daily Wire version I did not really comment about it, I personally do not expect much out of it to be honest, I would be more interested if it were Angel Studios behind it though.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 4, 2023 17:47:28 GMT
The funniest thing about the outrage against Rachel Zegler has been all these people acting like they give a shit about Snow White, as if she and Sleeping Beauty weren’t the most boring Disney Princesses of all time. At least with Ariel, I could sort of buy that some people might’ve been genuinely angry, but since when was it sacrilege to point out that Snow White is a story that hasn’t aged especially well? I respect Snow White’s place in cinema history - but no one cares about the character. She was never anyone’s favourite princess, she is the least interesting thing about her own story. I would have to kindly disagree, Disney's Snow White might not be the most complex of the Disney Princesses that would come later on, but like with DC's Superman is to the idea of the superhero, Snow White is to the fairy tale princess. She is an idealistic presentation of a character archetype, displaying kindness, acceptance, responsibility, and care for others. Her royalty does not define who she is, which is a contrast to the story's villain. In terms of relevance, most merchandise being sold with Disney's Princesses typically include her, and she often feels like a must-have at Disney's theme parks. She is still pretty well-liked.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Nov 4, 2023 17:53:19 GMT
I’m aware of the history of the movie. That doesn’t mean all these people mad about Rachel Zegler and the remake actually gave a crap about Snow White. Sorry, but I don’t at all believe that the Daily Wire movie exists for any reason other than pure spite. Well, from my perspective nine times out of 10 the criticisms directed towards the movie are its deviations from the original movie and that it is yet another unnecessary and bloated retelling that Disney has been frequently making. Besides that? Not everyone likes Zegler's personality- I have already given reasons why earlier in this very topic. As for The Daily Wire version I did not really comment about it, I personally do not expect much out of it to be honest, I would be more interested if it were Angel Studios behind it though. The animated movie already deviated from the original fairytale. Disney movies do this all the time. As for the remake being unnecessary, I don’t disagree. Basically all of Disney’s live action remakes have been unnecessary. I just find it ridiculous to act like the problem with these movies is that they’re “woke” and not that they’re cynical cashgrabs. Disney isn’t trying to push an agenda with these remakes. They’re trying to make a quick buck off of recognizable IP’s.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 4, 2023 17:58:30 GMT
I respect Snow White’s place in cinema history - but no one cares about the character. She was never anyone’s favourite princess, she is the least interesting thing about her own story. My point exactly. Snow White is a boring blank slate of a character, so the idea that people would be outraged at Disney and Rachel Ziegler for supposedly bastardizing her is ridiculous. People are just using the Disney remake as more fodder in their culture war crap, because they have a bone to pick with Disney. I seriously doubt that Ben Shapiro is making a Snow White movie because he’s passionate about the material. I think more people would be fine with the movie if more of the live-action remakes were of better quality, Disney was more trusted as a company by more consumers, if the likes of Bob Iger does not try to use the company as a building block to his political aspiration, and Rachel Zegler was more likeable of a personality. As for The Daily Wire production, last I checked Ben Shapiro isn't in charge of the entertainment division of the company, I believe that would be Jeremy Boreing(?). I think the movie was hoped to be seen as an alternative to Disney's new retelling but with it being released later on attempts to steal thunder won't be there. I would have personally produced another movie based on a different, little known Grimm fairy tale that few to none have adapted yet.
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Nov 4, 2023 18:07:43 GMT
Well, from my perspective nine times out of 10 the criticisms directed towards the movie are its deviations from the original movie and that it is yet another unnecessary and bloated retelling that Disney has been frequently making. Besides that? Not everyone likes Zegler's personality- I have already given reasons why earlier in this very topic. As for The Daily Wire version I did not really comment about it, I personally do not expect much out of it to be honest, I would be more interested if it were Angel Studios behind it though. The animated movie already deviated from the original fairytale. Disney movies do this all the time. As for the remake being unnecessary, I don’t disagree. Basically all of Disney’s live action remakes have been unnecessary. I just find it ridiculous to act like the problem with these movies is that they’re “woke” and not that they’re cynical cashgrabs. Disney isn’t trying to push an agenda with these remakes. They’re trying to make a quick buck off of recognizable IP’s. Yes, but for most people their introduction to Snow White was the Disney version and the same can also be said with regard to other fairy tales and novel adaptations the company has done over the years. It would be one thing if the new movie was going off of the original fairy tale, but they're using the Disney classic as its primary source, and some of the people involved have said things with regard to the Walt Disney original in that it is dated and dull, which rub long time Disney fans the wrong way.
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