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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2019 9:55:15 GMT
Why are people like Chris Evans and AOC bashing a bunch of Heterosexuals who are proud of their sexuality and want to have a parade march?
So it's okay if you're
- Lesbian - Bi-Sexual - Gay - Trans - Queer
etc...
but if you're straight... you're not allowed to be proud and celebrate? I don't get it.
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Post by kls on Jun 7, 2019 10:02:23 GMT
Isn't pride more typical for those belonging to unique groups or groups that had to overcome hardship? Not that it's something to feel shame about, but what's special or an accomplishment about being straight?
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Post by Lebowskidoo š¦ on Jun 7, 2019 12:21:25 GMT
Every day everywhere is a celebration of straight people. They have never had to hide who they are or have been persecuted. To insist on being recognized this way comes across as ignorant of history and a bit stupid.
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Post by kuatorises on Jun 7, 2019 12:29:21 GMT
Every day everywhere is a celebration of straight people. They have never had to hide who they are or have been persecuted. To insist on being recognized this way comes across as ignorant of history and a bit stupid. That's not really true.
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Post by kuatorises on Jun 7, 2019 12:32:01 GMT
Because liberal logic. Gay pride good, straight pride bad. Black power good, white power bad; particularly if you are a man. Remember, white males are the worst. THE. WORST.
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Post by kuatorises on Jun 7, 2019 12:37:57 GMT
Isn't pride more typical for those belonging to unique groups or groups that had to overcome hardship? Not that it's something to feel shame about, but what's special or an accomplishment about being straight?Nothing, but what's special about being gay? Or black? Being special comes from your character, accomplishments, how you treat people, etc., not your race or sexual preference.
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Post by vegalyra on Jun 7, 2019 13:02:27 GMT
Simple solution. Ban all parades. It's going to upset a certain group of people regardless of what group is parading. Streets are for driving on anyways.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jun 7, 2019 14:06:26 GMT
Why are people like Chris Evans and AOC bashing a bunch of Heterosexuals who are proud of their sexuality and want to have a parade march?
So it's okay if you're
- Lesbian - Bi-Sexual - Gay - Trans - Queer
etc...
but if you're straight... you're not allowed to be proud and celebrate? I don't get it. Who says they're "not allowed?" Evans and AOC? I'd be surprised if the three guys organizing the Boston parade follow their dictates. My questions to them, or you or anyone asking similar questions, are these: - Straight people have been around just as long as gay ones, and have never had to hide their orientation; what took so long to think of organizing their own parade? - Will people of all orientations be welcome both as attendants and participants in their parade, as they are at gay pride ones? Of course, the guys organizing the straight pride parade have stated that theirs is a reaction to gay pride ones, so it comes off as rather provocative and confrontational. But the whole thing may be moot. The turnout for the Aug 31 event may give a self-evident answer to any questions about why they haven't happened before; they'll have to attract crowds in the hundreds of thousands to match last year's gay pride event in Boston. If there's one thing no one can do better than gay people, it's throwing a party.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jun 7, 2019 14:10:02 GMT
Every day everywhere is a celebration of straight people. They have never had to hide who they are or have been persecuted. To insist on being recognized this way comes across as ignorant of history and a bit stupid. That's not really true. Of course it is. Every day, everywhere one looks - advertising, TV and film, all manner of public spaces - heterosexuality is openly displayed and celebrated.* Do you really disagree? *Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jun 7, 2019 14:18:33 GMT
Because liberal logic. Gay pride good, straight pride bad. Black power good, white power bad; particularly if you are a man. Remember, white males are the worst. THE. WORST. "Because [ conservatives' idea of] liberal logic." FIFY.
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Post by Doghouse6 on Jun 7, 2019 14:28:14 GMT
Isn't pride more typical for those belonging to unique groups or groups that had to overcome hardship? Not that it's something to feel shame about, but what's special or an accomplishment about being straight?Nothing, but what's special about being gay? Or black? Being special comes from your character, accomplishments, how you treat people, etc., not your race or sexual preference. It's not necessarily that there's anything "special" about being gay. It's simply that, for decades prior, gay Americans had been given "special" treatment - and not in a good way - by law and society. The pride parades began in 1970, a year following the notorious Stonewall uprising, as political statements of visibility, activism and organization to attract attention to the issue of equal treatment under law. And they became so big, widespread and, frankly, so popular and fun that they established a celebratory tradition.
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Post by kuatorises on Jun 7, 2019 14:37:11 GMT
Of course it is. Every day, everywhere one looks - advertising, TV and film, all manner of public spaces - heterosexuality is openly displayed and celebrated.* Do you really disagree? *Not that there's anything wrong with that. Two very different things. To celebrate means to acknowledge something of significance with a public event or some kind of accolades. Is being straight a an accomplishment? No. No it is not (neither is being gay btw). Being straight is acknowledged, not celebrated.
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Post by Jep Gambardella on Jun 7, 2019 15:02:50 GMT
This whole debate stems from a fundamental misunderstanding of the meaning of the word āprideā in the expression āgay prideā (or āblack prideā, for that matter). Itās not supposed to be interpreted literally as āI am proud to be gayā. What it means, in context, is this: since basically forever, gays risked being insulted, ostracized, fired, beaten, imprisoned or worse if they revealed their homosexuality. Now in some countries after decades of struggle, that is no longer the case. āGay Prideā means simply āFuck you, we arenāt going to be ashamed of being gay anymoreā. Since no straight person has ever risked anything by being straight, or been insulted or beaten for being straight, or being made to feel ashamed of being straight, āstraight prideā makes no sense whatsoever.
The ONLY possible motivation for a "straight pride" event is as a backlash against the acceptance of homosexuality. That is why it is not OK.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jun 7, 2019 15:07:55 GMT
If straight people donāt join or support the march would this be perceived as admitting to feeling shame?
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Post by MooseNugget on Jun 7, 2019 15:13:14 GMT
Weird that it's happening right now during gay pride month.
The problem is it's a counter to being gay when it shouldn't be.
And there's no need for a straight pride march. They have a stranglehold on daily life on America and media. I imagine the a lot of the gay pride marches is a way to say "we're here and we're queer! Get use to it." I think most people wanting a straight pride march want to counter it.
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Post by MooseNugget on Jun 7, 2019 15:15:31 GMT
If straight people donāt join or support the march would this be perceived as admitting to feeling shame? Probably to the people who are marching yes.
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Post by MooseNugget on Jun 7, 2019 15:18:06 GMT
Because liberal logic. Gay pride good, straight pride bad. Black power good, white power bad; particularly if you are a man. Remember, white males are the worst. THE. WORST. This is such projection. Marches have been happening forever so why is it recently that anyone cared to march for straight pride? Because people want to counter a gay march.
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Post by Stammerhead on Jun 7, 2019 15:25:09 GMT
If straight people donāt join or support the march would this be perceived as admitting to feeling shame? Probably to the people who are marching yes. Iām wondering if not feeling shame means not feeling bad about things your group of people have done against other groups of people. It might help if this march had a āyes, but...ā section somewhere at at the back.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jun 7, 2019 16:00:09 GMT
Why are people like Chris Evans and AOC bashing a bunch of Heterosexuals who are proud of their sexuality and want to have a parade march?
So it's okay if you're
- Lesbian - Bi-Sexual - Gay - Trans - Queer
etc...
but if you're straight... you're not allowed to be proud and celebrate? I don't get it. That you even have to ask this question shows how far up your own @$$ your thinking is. A straight pride parade may be the single stupidest concept I've ever heard of.
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Post by MooseNugget on Jun 7, 2019 16:13:38 GMT
Probably to the people who are marching yes. Iām wondering if not feeling shame means not feeling bad about things your group of people have done against other groups of people. I don't know how you come to that conclusion. Maybe I misinterpreted your first question?
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