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Post by darkpast on Jun 10, 2019 3:13:41 GMT
Shed a tear today watching Dark Phoenix, thanks for the memories, will be missed
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 10, 2019 3:29:45 GMT
Yeah Fox, so long and thanks for all the fish!
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Post by egon1982 on Jul 7, 2019 22:41:57 GMT
Shed a tear today watching Dark Phoenix, thanks for the memories, will be missed Your a Fox shill, at least Deadpool 1 and 2 are unashamed Fox films unlike Bryan Singer
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Post by politicidal on Jul 8, 2019 0:22:07 GMT
Brave soul.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 8, 2019 0:44:19 GMT
Btw, have you need it yet?
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Post by scabab on Jul 8, 2019 23:37:55 GMT
Your a Fox shill, at least Deadpool 1 and 2 are unashamed Fox films unlike Bryan Singer Is that you Sam?
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Post by politicidal on Jul 8, 2019 23:54:20 GMT
Your a Fox shill, at least Deadpool 1 and 2 are unashamed Fox films unlike Bryan Singer Is that you Sam? That'd be amazing.
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Post by politicidal on Jul 9, 2019 0:52:28 GMT
Btw, have you need it yet? No and I won't ever need it.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 9, 2019 12:01:47 GMT
Btw, have you need it yet? No and I won't ever need it. Well that was an embarrassing typo.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 9, 2019 13:57:04 GMT
No and I won't ever need it. Well that was an embarrassing typo. The premise of this thread is more embarrassing.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 9, 2019 14:00:33 GMT
Thank you India
Thank you terror
Thank you disillusionment
Thank you frailty
Thank you consequence
Thank you thank you silence
Thank you Fox for those sweet X-Men movies
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 9, 2019 20:57:52 GMT
Meh. Good riddance. Fox wasted so much potential with these characters.
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Post by Grabthar's Hammer on Jul 9, 2019 23:07:21 GMT
Yeah Fox, so long and thanks for all the fish!
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Post by ShrunkenHeadonKnightBus on Jul 10, 2019 1:55:33 GMT
Yeah Fox, so long and thanks for all the fish!
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Post by egon1982 on Jul 18, 2019 17:15:51 GMT
Meh. Good riddance. Fox wasted so much potential with these characters. I agree except they did good with Deadpool
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 18, 2019 17:25:38 GMT
Meh. Good riddance. Fox wasted so much potential with these characters. I agree except they did good with Deadpool I don't really give Fox credit for doing Deadpool. Ryan Reynolds begged them for years to do that movie and when that didn't work, had to beg Hugh Jackman to speak to Fox on his behalf. Even after Fox finally agreed, they gave him a pittance of a budget for the movie. It was obvious that Fox wasn't really interested in making that movie and should be proof of how bad their decision-making skills are when it comes to cbms. Deadpool came about (and ended up being good) because of Ryan Reynolds. Without him I'm pretty sure Fox would have thrown that idea in the garbage without a 2nd thought.
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Post by bud47 on Jul 19, 2019 18:04:06 GMT
I agree except they did good with Deadpool I don't really give Fox credit for doing Deadpool. Ryan Reynolds begged them for years to do that movie and when that didn't work, had to beg Hugh Jackman to speak to Fox on his behalf. Even after Fox finally agreed, they gave him a pittance of a budget for the movie. It was obvious that Fox wasn't really interested in making that movie and should be proof of how bad their decision-making skills are when it comes to cbms. Deadpool came about (and ended up being good) because of Ryan Reynolds. Without him I'm pretty sure Fox would have thrown that idea in the garbage without a 2nd thought. I agree. Like all other aspects of the X-Men, Fox didn't really have that much faith or confidence in the material, which is why they never aimed higher than they did and never achieved greater success. Their direction with the franchise was always short-sighted and aimless and always lacked the imagination, scope and creativity that the material requires. There's a reason why the mainline films never ventured very far beyond what was introduced in X2 and why continued focus was always put on Xavier, Magneto, Mystique and Wolverine (not to mention the never-ending appearances and references to Colonel Stryker). They just didn't know what else to do. It was clear to me since X3 that the proper handling of the material and characters was just beyond their capabilities.
With Deadpool, it was nothing more than a happy accident for Fox. That film would have never been made if it weren't for Reynolds' efforts, which many believe included the leaking of test footage. The immediate positive and loud reaction from fans resulted in the film finally getting the green light, but only with a small budget, obviously to minimize risk.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 19, 2019 19:24:48 GMT
I don't really give Fox credit for doing Deadpool. Ryan Reynolds begged them for years to do that movie and when that didn't work, had to beg Hugh Jackman to speak to Fox on his behalf. Even after Fox finally agreed, they gave him a pittance of a budget for the movie. It was obvious that Fox wasn't really interested in making that movie and should be proof of how bad their decision-making skills are when it comes to cbms. Deadpool came about (and ended up being good) because of Ryan Reynolds. Without him I'm pretty sure Fox would have thrown that idea in the garbage without a 2nd thought. I agree. Like all other aspects of the X-Men, Fox didn't really have that much faith or confidence in the material, which is why they never aimed higher than they did and never achieved greater success. Their direction with the franchise was always short-sighted and aimless and always lacked the imagination, scope and creativity that the material requires. There's a reason why the mainline films never ventured very far beyond what was introduced in X2 and why continued focus was always put on Xavier, Magneto, Mystique and Wolverine (not to mention the never-ending appearances and references to Colonel Stryker). They just didn't know what else to do. It was clear to me since X3 that the proper handling of the material and characters was just beyond their capabilities.
With Deadpool, it was nothing more than a happy accident for Fox. That film would have never been made if it weren't for Reynolds' efforts, which many believe included the leaking of test footage. The immediate positive and loud reaction from fans resulted in the film finally getting the green light, but only with a small budget, obviously to minimize risk. Xavier, Magneto and Mystique were not focal characters in X2. They didn't become that until First Class and by Dark Phoenix 2/3 were side characters. No offence but I think you are suffering from confirmation bias.
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Post by bud47 on Jul 19, 2019 20:33:55 GMT
I agree. Like all other aspects of the X-Men, Fox didn't really have that much faith or confidence in the material, which is why they never aimed higher than they did and never achieved greater success. Their direction with the franchise was always short-sighted and aimless and always lacked the imagination, scope and creativity that the material requires. There's a reason why the mainline films never ventured very far beyond what was introduced in X2 and why continued focus was always put on Xavier, Magneto, Mystique and Wolverine (not to mention the never-ending appearances and references to Colonel Stryker). They just didn't know what else to do. It was clear to me since X3 that the proper handling of the material and characters was just beyond their capabilities.
With Deadpool, it was nothing more than a happy accident for Fox. That film would have never been made if it weren't for Reynolds' efforts, which many believe included the leaking of test footage. The immediate positive and loud reaction from fans resulted in the film finally getting the green light, but only with a small budget, obviously to minimize risk. Xavier, Magneto and Mystique were not focal characters in X2. They didn't come that until First Class and by Dark Phoenix 2/3 were side characters. No offence but I think you are suffering from confirmation bias. They may not always be the primary focal point when it comes to the plot, but they're definitely given the bulk of the screen-time and attention. I can't speak for Dark Phoenix since I haven't seen it and refuse to subject myself to it, but the bottom line is that Xavier, Magneto, Mystique and Wolverine could easily be labeled as the star characters of the franchise when looking back at the films as a whole, while other (equally important) characters were largely ignored/sidelined. Even some of the actors themselves have complained about it.
When Mystique (largely driven by J-Law's now fading star power) is given more attention than characters like Cyclops and Storm, not to mention being given a leadership position over them no less, these films have done something very wrong.
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Post by Skaathar on Jul 19, 2019 21:05:16 GMT
I agree. Like all other aspects of the X-Men, Fox didn't really have that much faith or confidence in the material, which is why they never aimed higher than they did and never achieved greater success. Their direction with the franchise was always short-sighted and aimless and always lacked the imagination, scope and creativity that the material requires. There's a reason why the mainline films never ventured very far beyond what was introduced in X2 and why continued focus was always put on Xavier, Magneto, Mystique and Wolverine (not to mention the never-ending appearances and references to Colonel Stryker). They just didn't know what else to do. It was clear to me since X3 that the proper handling of the material and characters was just beyond their capabilities.
With Deadpool, it was nothing more than a happy accident for Fox. That film would have never been made if it weren't for Reynolds' efforts, which many believe included the leaking of test footage. The immediate positive and loud reaction from fans resulted in the film finally getting the green light, but only with a small budget, obviously to minimize risk. Xavier, Magneto and Mystique were not focal characters in X2. They didn't come that until First Class and by Dark Phoenix 2/3 were side characters. No offence but I think you are suffering from confirmation bias. Xavier and Magneto were definitely major characters in both X1 and X2. Magneto was a major player in X3 and all the other movies save Logan if I'm not mistaken. Xavier was a major player in all the movies except X3 I think. Mystique was a focal character from First Class onwards but she played no small part in X1 and X2 as well. Wolverine was always a focal character in any movie he was in.
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