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Post by msdemos on Jun 11, 2019 22:05:42 GMT
SAVE FERRIS
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Post by kls on Jun 11, 2019 22:10:02 GMT
I've had 2 male bosses. Nether were favorites or least favorites. I've had female bosses who were wonderful and let's just say others not wonderful.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2019 22:13:00 GMT
male...i haven't had much of a problem with male employers
females can be huge bitches..they don't forget anything...they passively exact revenge....women are the worst especially with each other...and we don't forget a thing...that's what makes us the worst...as a female employee i much prefer a male boss
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Post by Feologild Oakes on Jun 11, 2019 22:24:40 GMT
A Boss Is A Boss, So It Really Doesn't Matter To Me
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Post by mecano04 on Jun 12, 2019 0:12:57 GMT
A competent and just boss.
The plumbing and how they identify doesn't matter.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 0:17:22 GMT
A competent and just boss. The plumbing and how they identify doesn't matter. bull...ever notice how men can argue about anything...sports, work, i fucked your wife, etc...and 5 minutes later, they're laughing over beers? Men can compartmentalize.... women can't...we are ruled be emotions...everything is intertwined....if you do anything bad to me, i will remember and you will suffer...
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Post by kls on Jun 12, 2019 0:18:33 GMT
A competent and just boss. The plumbing and how they identify doesn't matter. bull...ever notice how men can argue about anything...sports, work, i fucked your wife, etc...and 5 minutes later, they're laughing over beers? Men can compartmentalize.... women can't...we are ruled be emotions...everything is intertwined....if you do anything bad to me, i will remember and you will suffer... Then maybe I have the wrong plumbing. That doesn't describe me at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 0:22:18 GMT
bull...ever notice how men can argue about anything...sports, work, i fucked your wife, etc...and 5 minutes later, they're laughing over beers? Men can compartmentalize.... women can't...we are ruled be emotions...everything is intertwined....if you do anything bad to me, i will remember and you will suffer... Then maybe I have the wrong plumbing. That doesn't describe me at all. yes, kls, we all know you're the perfect woman...seriously, i haven't taken revenge on what my ex did to me...but i have seen with my own eyes too many instances of women being dicks to other women for no other reason then just to be a dick.....
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Post by kls on Jun 12, 2019 0:23:31 GMT
Then maybe I have the wrong plumbing. That doesn't describe me at all. yes, kls, we all know you're the perfect woman...seriously, i haven't taken revenge on what my ex did to me...but i have seen with my own eyes too many instances of women being dicks to other women for no other reason then just to be a dick..... Never said I'm perfect.
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Post by mstreepsucks on Jun 12, 2019 0:31:23 GMT
Goes without saying, since i'm slow my opinion matters less. But: Either one is fine. With me.
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Post by mecano04 on Jun 12, 2019 0:53:43 GMT
A competent and just boss. The plumbing and how they identify doesn't matter. bull...ever notice how men can argue about anything...sports, work, i fucked your wife, etc...and 5 minutes later, they're laughing over beers? Men can compartmentalize.... women can't...we are ruled be emotions...everything is intertwined....if you do anything bad to me, i will remember and you will suffer... You're only looking at differences in the way men and women approach relations with other people, or in this case, employees.
That's only one part of a boss job. There is also managing resources (inventory, money, building, whatever..).
Some men and women can do all those things well while others fail on every aspect. It has nothing to do with sex but everything to do with approach and skills.
I've seen the whole spectrum and I'll stick with my firs statement.
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Post by movieliker on Jun 12, 2019 0:58:32 GMT
The best bosses I had were all female. Females manage. Males boss.
Females work with you, show respect and consideration. Males say, "I don't pay you to think. Do what I say, or you're fired."
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Jun 12, 2019 1:01:37 GMT
I've had good and bad in each gender.
I don't think it can be divided by gender. I think it depends on each individual as a person. The very best boss I ever had was a woman, but the very worst boss I had was also a woman - an undiagnosed and unmedicated person with (I think) bipolar disorder.
I've had a few good male bosses, and some scum-sucking low-life male bosses with testosterone issues. One of them could have been my worst boss ever, but the bipolar woman was hard to beat. She was seriously mentally ill, other co-workers quit because of her, and I never could understand why management didn't let her go. Rumor was that she had something on the owner of the company, and in some kind of settlement, she could never be fired. I quit because of her. That was 5 years ago, since then, all my other co-workers have left because of her or she has fired them, but she still remains employed. One of life's little mysteries. But thankfully, no longer my problem.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 12, 2019 1:17:23 GMT
Either or.
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Post by lenlenlen1 on Jun 12, 2019 18:41:08 GMT
They can both be good or assholes, so gender doesn't matter.
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Post by movieliker on Jun 12, 2019 20:00:10 GMT
They can both be good or assholes, so gender doesn't matter. They both can be. And both have. But women are generally better at communication and cooperation. Less likely to be insensitive and disrespectful.
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Post by someguy on Jun 12, 2019 21:21:49 GMT
I’ve had a mixed bag of bosses with both genders. As for people who say that female bosses take things more personally, and are argumentative for no rational reason, I’ve had that experience mostly with male co-workers (but not male bosses).
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Post by mslo79 on Jun 12, 2019 21:25:05 GMT
Whomever is decent with employee's. I did not vote in the poll but I would guesstimate, on an average, a female boss will probably be better than a male boss from a male employee perspective and I would not be surprised if some of this is due to females would probably be nicer to us males and male bosses will probably be generally nicer to female employee's than they will to males since I suspect this comes back to nature with males liking females and females liking males thing. but with that said... I can easily see how things will vary from one persons opinion to another given their experiences as both can be quite bad or quite good depending on how good they are with people and whether they are that type who abuse their authority over others etc. but I think in general it depends on how selfish that person is as some like authority over others etc and should never be given a position of power as they will abuse it and will make a miserable work atmosphere for the typical employee. like some can be two faced... like they pretend to be a decent person to the high ups but anyone who's lower than them they treat like crap which shows what kind of person they really are as the decent people will still treat others with at least a basic level of respect regardless if they are higher or lower than them on a job etc. because while I understand sometimes a boss has to put their foot down, as we all are going to take some crap here and there, if they are constantly screwing with people then it's pretty safe to say the boss is the villain. because the way I see it... if a boss is a good boss, then they can generally keep at least a decent working atmosphere for the workers as a whole. but if they are that power hungry type of boss who dictates every little thing, then it's going to bring everyone down and is worse for the company as a whole as the way I see it... the happier the average employee is the better it is for the company as a whole. because if the workers are miserable they are likely to do a poorer job than those who are a bit happier. or another thing I dislike is when you got those bosses who micro-manage every little petty thing where there is minimal benefit for the company but puts quite a bit more load on the employee's, as it's not worth it overall and the higher ups are better off backing off for the peace of everyone. because after a certain point the bosses are nitpicking and it's natural for the employee's to largely ignore their BS. I understand the boss might have a higher-up boss than them breathing down their necks but I would not be surprised if many of those higher-up bosses never worked as a average employee and they just don't care, or get it, that you cant just treat the average employee like total crap even though it seems some high ups do this. or some of them expect certain things to get done in a short period of time when it's just not possible etc and when it's not done they think your slacking off but it's obvious they just don't know the job as even if someone is a quick/above average worker, there is a limit on how much one can do in a certain time period and on an average job it's not realistic to expect the average employee to work at their max capacity all of the time, especially if they ain't getting paid decently, and especially on more of a manual labor type of job etc.
That's what sucks with many jobs is having to work with others as someone always thinks they are getting screwed over or someone does screw someone and won't acknowledge it etc etc. basically there is likely going to be some level of drama on many jobs especially if one person can potentially have a negative effect on another etc. so I guess just about everyone is going to have to take some crap here and there but you just hope it's nothing to extreme.
or those who are good at kissing up to the higher ups so they get favored even though they do less actual work than those who don't get favored etc. basically more drama.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2019 21:31:10 GMT
Well, I've got a controversial answer so I'll apologize in advance if what I have to say offends anybody.
I largely prefer a male boss for one primary reason: female bosses are far more likely to either get walked all over or disrespected by male and female co-workers alike in my experience. As a female boss, you have to work much, much harder to keep order in the workplace. Their orders are more likely to be challenged by employees, they are more likely to have employees attempt to cajole them into favors (time off and the like), and all around they have to work harder to gain and keep respect from both above and below than men do. It's sexist as hell but women are still seen as having a more empathetic and nurturing demeanor than men and that perception often works against them in the workplace. If they're not being walked over for being considerate, they're reviled for being "bossy" and not fitting that preconception.
I wish that weren't true but it so often is. You have to have a resolve of steel to manage successfully as a woman and even then cards are stacked against you. I'm a team player and in the situations where I've had female bosses, I've almost always had to take up the slack of others or act as an enforcer at times because some co-workers do not take their orders as seriously and since I want my boss to do well (assuming I like them), it makes additional work for me.
It has nothing to do with the quality of their work or their characteristics as people. I've had male and female bosses that were too nice, male and female bosses that were too demanding, but if you were to compare those archetypes based on sex, the men always have an easier time getting people to do what they want. And frankly, that makes a job easier to accomplish.
It's not at all fair and hopefully it's not the norm but that's been my experience.
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Post by mslo79 on Jun 12, 2019 21:52:56 GMT
bartlesby I would not apologize for what you said as you got some truth to it as it's not like your just talking out of your @$$, but just giving your observations based on your experiences. I can easily see that because by nature men are supposed to be more of a authority figure (like even in terms of basic family, males are the head of the family and when a female tries to run things, things tend to get out of whack and cause further conflict etc(I know people are people and no ones perfect so there is going to be some sort of conflict here and there)) where as females are more towards the empathetic/nurturing kind of thing. so when females basically try to be the male, with authority etc in the general family, that's naturally going to cause conflict with the male since males are supposed to be generally the head of the family. NOTE: I am not saying this is a excuse for the male to treat the female like crap or anything, but you get the gist of it as things are ordered a certain way by nature and if you venture too far away from those norms, things tend to get a bit disordered and conflict rises etc. some might see it as 'sexist' etc but there are just certain things males do better than females, by nature, and vice versa. it's not sexist, it's just the way things are by nature. just some thoughts but even the whole gender thing aside... it seems like there is a fine line between being too nice and too bossy as you can't please everyone but I guess the main thing is the boss does not abuse their authority over others, at least not too much, otherwise they are the villain. but I guess some bosses are more of a people person than others which will probably help quite a bit to be a people person if your a boss vs those types who just want to go higher up so they can get more $ and make things easier on themselves and don't give a rip about anyone else and treat the typical employee like crap but act like they are a decent person to those higher than themselves in the work place.
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