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Post by masterofallgoons on Jun 13, 2019 17:24:24 GMT
It seems to be leaning very heavily on Kubrick.
I find that somewhat surprising, since as I understand the book is rather clearly a sequel to the book and would sort of clash with the original movie.
It should be interesting to see how that goes, and to see how Stephen King reacts since he's basically the only person that thinks the Kubrick film isn't any good.
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Post by cryptoflovecraft on Jun 13, 2019 21:39:46 GMT
Looks like it might be an interesting film. I just hope it doesn't rely too heavily on flashbacks from The Shining.
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Post by Anonymous Andy on Jun 13, 2019 21:42:05 GMT
Hmmm.
Never read the novel, so I don't know what to expect. Trailer looks passable, but no one can out Kubrick Stanley Kubrick, so if they think they're going to get by just from huffing on his fumes, they're bound to fail.
I'm not opposed to a sequel to The Shining, and this hasn't swayed me in one direction or the other. Anyone who's read the novel who could possibly offer some insight on what to expect? Is the story even any good in the first place?
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Post by rogerthat on Jun 13, 2019 21:54:50 GMT
It looks good to me. Since I read the book I was glad to see some things I recognized from it. Fingers crossed.
As far as what the story (novel) is about - Danny is now a full grown adult and a recovering alcoholic. He meets Abra a young girl who is more powerful in shining then he ever was. The villians of the story are a group of vampire like creatures who feed off the steam /life force of people (mainly children) who Shine.
It is a little whacky in the plot but a decent read.
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Post by politicidal on Jun 13, 2019 23:22:14 GMT
They tried hard to replicate Kubrick's style and it shows. Looks better the second time.
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Post by James on Jun 13, 2019 23:32:01 GMT
Interesting. I still haven't read the novel (then again I don't read very much) but I am hoping as a movie on its own it will be great. Kubrick's movie turned out that way.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jun 13, 2019 23:37:10 GMT
I'd have to look at it again, but are those clips from the original film or recreations?
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jun 14, 2019 1:18:16 GMT
Looks like it might be an interesting film. I just hope it doesn't rely too heavily on flashbacks from The Shining. My guess the flashbacks will seem heavy because with the trailer they'll want people to know it's something to do with The Shining. The Shining is iconic and people know the scenes even if they've never seen it. Should be enough there to satisfy all. if I recall from the novel the final showdown was on the grounds of The Overlook(?). At least they didn't go for The Shining 2 as the title.
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Post by poelzig on Jun 14, 2019 6:46:13 GMT
Hmmm. Never read the novel, so I don't know what to expect. Trailer looks passable, but no one can out Kubrick Stanley Kubrick, so if they think they're going to get by just from huffing on his fumes, they're bound to fail. I'm not opposed to a sequel to The Shining, and this hasn't swayed me in one direction or the other. Anyone who's read the novel who could possibly offer some insight on what to expect? Is the story even any good in the first place? The book isn't terrible but it's not great either. Typical latter day King. Sadly he's a obsessive writer and no matter how shitty a particular book of his is it will still well. Thus he rarely puts any effort it any more or maybe he needs to start drinking and drugging again. Think about it. He gets to get drunk and/or high again and we get some good King novels before he dies. It's a win win.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jun 17, 2019 19:33:22 GMT
I heard earlier that all of the flashbacks are recreations. I thought they looked a little different, but they seem to have done a really solid job of it.
Everything except the blood coming from the elevator.
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Post by OffTheBoatPsycho on Jun 18, 2019 4:40:28 GMT
Hmmm. Never read the novel, so I don't know what to expect. Trailer looks passable, but no one can out Kubrick Stanley Kubrick, so if they think they're going to get by just from huffing on his fumes, they're bound to fail. I'm not opposed to a sequel to The Shining, and this hasn't swayed me in one direction or the other. Anyone who's read the novel who could possibly offer some insight on what to expect? Is the story even any good in the first place? The book isn't terrible but it's not great either. Typical latter day King. Sadly he's a obsessive writer and no matter how shitty a particular book of his is it will still well. Thus he rarely puts any effort it any more or maybe he needs to start drinking and drugging again. Think about it. He gets to get drunk and/or high again and we get some good King novels before he dies. It's a win win. He still spins a good yarn. For sure his classics are from quite a time ago. Doctor Sleep is an average ok read when comparing it to The Shining. Not sure if the booze and drugs helped better his writing. Maybe a lot of artists are at their best fuelled with drugs and booze.The Beatles went through a drug period which I believe gave the world Sgt Peppers. Pollock seemed to be sh!tfaced quite a bit. Hemingway?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 7:56:37 GMT
Thanks for sharing that. As somebody who enjoyed the novel I have been looking forward to seeing a movie adaption of it and I think it might have been a mistake to make it before having another remake of 'The Shining' with Stephen King in charge of it so he could tell it the way it is supposed to be told in a shorter version than the miniseries but I think this could be good and stand alone as its own movie. There are heaps and heaps of Stephen King adaptions coming out and the new TV Shows of 'The Dark Tower' and 'The Stand' and the remake of 'Firestarter' are the ones I am looking forward to the most and I hope we get 'The Regulators' and 'Duma Key' next. 'Duma Key' is long overdue and some of my friends who are Stephen King fans can't believe it hasn't been adapted yet 'cause they think it is one of his best novels.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2019 7:59:48 GMT
Interesting. I still haven't read the novel (then again I don't read very much) but I am hoping as a movie on its own it will be great. Kubrick's movie turned out that way.
Have you watched the miniseries James? It is more similar to the novel than the movie was and is longer and it is worth checking out if you haven't. I liked the miniseries more 'cause it was more like the novel and while I didn't hate Kubrick's movie I have never been a fan of Hollywood taking writer's stories and changing them to the point where they are very different than the original story and the Author hates them. Stephen King has called it and 'Needful Things' the two worst adaptions of his books but thinks 'Needful Things' needs another adaption and I agree with him 'cause the last one didn't do any justice to the novel.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jun 19, 2019 15:09:51 GMT
Thanks for sharing that. As somebody who enjoyed the novel I have been looking forward to seeing a movie adaption of it and I think it might have been a mistake to make it before having another remake of 'The Shining' with Stephen King in charge of it so he could tell it the way it is supposed to be told in a shorter version than the miniseries but I think this could be good and stand alone as its own movie. I think that would be a huge, terrible mistake. Whatever any fan, or Stephen King himself, may think, the movie is revered as an all time great film by one of the top masters of the medium. Making a remake would be a completely thankless job that would be doomed to have a really shaky reception, at best. Even if it was really good, so much of the audience would write it off as a typical, lame remake, but even worse as it's a lame remake of a movie that's thought to be untouchable and transcendent of genre, source, and time and on a level of greatness beyond other horror movies. And if that was received the way it almost certainly would be, it would make it more difficult to get this sequel made and accepted. This approach actually makes a lot of sense. I thought maybe they'd allude to the Kubrick film in vague terms, but not do so quite as literally and directly, so that it was still more a direct book adaptation but could pass as a sequel to the movie too. Doing it this way, and trying to skirt both issues and make it work as a true adaptation and a sequel to a movie that wasn't a faithful adaptation of the original book seems like a daunting task, but if it could work it might actually be able to satisfy all camps.. Even Stephen King himself signed off on the approach.. somehow.
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Post by anthonyrocks on Jun 19, 2019 16:41:52 GMT
I always felt so bad for Scatman Crothers character in "THE SHINING".
The poor guy travels all the way from Miami to Denver, and then from Denver to the Hotel, and not even 10 Minutes after he finally gets there.....Jack Nicholson puts an axe into his chest!
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Post by Fetzer Zinfandel on Sept 19, 2019 22:20:36 GMT
Late to the discussion, but I just saw the preview for Doctor Sleep last night when I was seeing It. Doctor Sleep is, imho, King's best book in years, and one of the best popular fiction books I've read in a long long time.
I can't WAIT to see what they do with this. So much so, I'm going to re-read and re-watch The Shining!
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Sept 20, 2019 14:16:10 GMT
It looks good to me. Since I read the book I was glad to see some things I recognized from it. Fingers crossed. As far as what the story (novel) is about - Danny is now a full grown adult and a recovering alcoholic. He meets Abra a young girl who is more powerful in shining then he ever was. The villians of the story are a group of vampire like creatures who feed off the steam /life force of people (mainly children) who Shine. It is a little whacky in the plot but a decent read. From watching the trailer, I did note some departures from the book. I'm hoping it's good. I loved the book.
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Sept 20, 2019 14:18:09 GMT
Thanks for sharing that. As somebody who enjoyed the novel I have been looking forward to seeing a movie adaption of it and I think it might have been a mistake to make it before having another remake of 'The Shining' with Stephen King in charge of it so he could tell it the way it is supposed to be told in a shorter version than the miniseries but I think this could be good and stand alone as its own movie. There are heaps and heaps of Stephen King adaptions coming out and the new TV Shows of 'The Dark Tower' and 'The Stand' and the remake of 'Firestarter' are the ones I am looking forward to the most and I hope we get 'The Regulators' and 'Duma Key' next. 'Duma Key' is long overdue and some of my friends who are Stephen King fans can't believe it hasn't been adapted yet 'cause they think it is one of his best novels. Duma Key has supplanted The Stand in my overall favorite book of King's. It's a wonderful novel with a lot of heart. I think his best. Doctor Sleep runs a close second.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2019 13:15:15 GMT
Thanks for sharing that. As somebody who enjoyed the novel I have been looking forward to seeing a movie adaption of it and I think it might have been a mistake to make it before having another remake of 'The Shining' with Stephen King in charge of it so he could tell it the way it is supposed to be told in a shorter version than the miniseries but I think this could be good and stand alone as its own movie. There are heaps and heaps of Stephen King adaptions coming out and the new TV Shows of 'The Dark Tower' and 'The Stand' and the remake of 'Firestarter' are the ones I am looking forward to the most and I hope we get 'The Regulators' and 'Duma Key' next. 'Duma Key' is long overdue and some of my friends who are Stephen King fans can't believe it hasn't been adapted yet 'cause they think it is one of his best novels. Duma Key has supplanted The Stand in my overall favorite book of King's. It's a wonderful novel with a lot of heart. I think his best. Doctor Sleep runs a close second. I totally agree which is why I am surprised we haven't already had a movie or TV adaption of 'Duma Key' 'cause I think it could be good done on screen and I remember reading there was talk about an adaption of it a few years ago but I haven't heard any updates about it again so I think it must have been put on hold. Some people hate on Stephen King's latest work and don't say it is as good as the novels he released earlier in his career but I have liked a few of the latest ones. I liked 'Doctor Sleep' too and another one I liked was 'Cell' but I was disappointed with the movie of that and I feel they cut it too much and by doing so they kinda sucked the life of it. I didn't feel like we really got to know the characters as well as we did in the book 'cause it was rushed and the deaths of some characters weren't as significant because of that. Did you like 'Under the Dome?'
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Post by TheOriginalPinky on Sept 21, 2019 17:36:22 GMT
Duma Key has supplanted The Stand in my overall favorite book of King's. It's a wonderful novel with a lot of heart. I think his best. Doctor Sleep runs a close second. I totally agree which is why I am surprised we haven't already had a movie or TV adaption of 'Duma Key' 'cause I think it could be good done on screen and I remember reading there was talk about an adaption of it a few years ago but I haven't heard any updates about it again so I think it must have been put on hold. Some people hate on Stephen King's latest work and don't say it is as good as the novels he released earlier in his career but I have liked a few of the latest ones. I liked 'Doctor Sleep' too and another one I liked was 'Cell' but I was disappointed with the movie of that and I feel they cut it too much and by doing so they kinda sucked the life of it. I didn't feel like we really got to know the characters as well as we did in the book 'cause it was rushed and the deaths of some characters weren't as significant because of that. Did you like 'Under the Dome?' Up until the end, I enjoyed Under the Dome. I expect that any treatment they do of Duma Key is going to be touchy.
I also liked the Mr. Mercedes trilogy.
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