Post by stargazer1682 on Jun 17, 2019 4:59:28 GMT
Okay, so it's been almost a month since this episode aired and I'm just getting around to watching it now - and yet there's been virtually no discussion about on this board, with one or two notable exceptions. What is it about the CW-DC shows that they can't get people talking about them?
I honest wondered if there were entire threads on here talking about episodes that I just couldn't see, because I had either blocked the user or for some reason the author had blocked me. I mean, I don' t know why they'd block me, but that was the best explanation I had for why there was so little discussion about the shows. Now I know that you can see threads by people you blocked and vice versa, which is profoundly stupid, but that also means there's just that little interest in what's going on in the shows.
So here we go...
Okay, so I haven't even gotten to the start of the actual episode, but rather one of the commercials leading into it and I want to comment on it, because I've seen it before I feel the ending at least is weird and kind of creepy. It's for a cell company in my area, which I'm honestly not sure how prominent it is now; I believe it at least used to be just a regional provider, but I don't know how big US Cellular is now, but I was able to find the commercial on youtube:
Can we talk about how creepy the ending is, where the spokesman discloses the fact that he's not a real doctor and the woman says, "Oh, I know" and the guy acts surprised? Like, what the fuck? So does that mean you were hoping to make her think you were a doctor? And shouldn't that be disclosed before an examine? I don't know how invasive diagnosing "green with new phone envy" is - one would assume not terribly invasive, considering her face is partially green. And yet, she's wearing an exam gown, which isn't typically something I've had to wear for a more routine check-up in the doctor's office. She took off her fucking clothes, or at least most of them, to talk with a guy whom she knows isn't a doctor; and likewise, this guy didn't stop her or at least say something before she got undressed. There's some shady connotations to the premise of this commercial....
Okay, on with the show.
I actually didn't need much of the recap this time around, surprisingly I did remember what happened last time; although I could have done without the reminder of Alex resuscitating Kara with grass....which written out and taken a certain way sounds like a more entertaining episode than we actually got.... but seriously, I don't think I forgot that part per se, so much as tried to forget it because it was so fucking stupid. That's not how photosynthesis work, so fuck all y'all.
Gee, I was hoping we'd get the backstory of Not-Kara going to see Mama Danvers, there's so many questions.
....I can't think of any, but ostensibly if the writers feel the need to fill in those blanks, it must be necessary....
Lex: "Don't worry, it won't hurt."
**Chamber closes, muffled screams**
Lex: "Guess I was wrong."
Dear God, I think this is a prime example of what everyone was afraid they would do with Lex when they cast Jon Cryer in the role - that they would try and make Lex funny. Lex fucking Luthor is not funny. Is a cynical asshole who doesn't give two shits about any other living being; what they think, how they feel, nothing. He's not completely emotionless or humorless, mind you, but he's not supposed to be funny.
Mind you, thinking about how, say, Clancy Brown might have delivered that line as Lex, and I'll admit it might have worked, but arguably because he wouldn't be trying to be funny when he'd say it; it would have been much dryer and matter of fact. And the satisfaction of saying something like that out loud would be more to demonstrate his utter contempt for the people he's hurting, which is what he gets off on. This was more like a Joker line, and a weak one at that.
Now see, Lex talking to the president in the oval office is more of how Lex should be. It really is a fine line; and it's hard to say whether it's the writing or the actor, because it really could go either way, especially given some of the possible nuances mentioned above. So did Jon try hamming it up in the previous seen as his own choice for how the character would deliver those lines, or was he told to?
"My Way"? Seriously? Oh Christ, and Lex is singing along....
Where the hell does Lex keep his super-suit?
I'm sort of on the fence whether to expect this to truly be the end for Not-Kara. It seems too anti-climactic, but on the other hand, so was the majority of her story. They haven't exactly built her up or made much real use of her. Basically I guess I won't be surprised if she's not really dead, but I won't be surprised if she stays dead. Mostly though this seems like bad plotting. There's no reason to have dragged this out from the previous episode; when they probably could have found a way to fit the entirety of first 8 minutes of this episode into the previous episode and made it a more seamless part of the story, instead of doubling back to fill in some of these gaps. The only reason, presumably, is because they didn't want to put Jon Cryer in both episodes. And maybe that's because he doesn't live in Vancouver so it's convenient to put him in an episode, I don't know; I can't imagine it costs the show that much to have him in an episode, though I have long since noticed how far they've gone out of their way not to have him an episode, yet still be at the forefront of the story.
Either way, it would have made much more sense and worked better to contrast the story of Kara and her double to see one Alex bringing their Kara back from near death, while another "Alex" kills their Kara. That seems like that should be basic plot construction.
Well that's convenient; in one shot Lex is flying around with the body of Not-Kara with his helmet on and in the next shot he's flying around carrying her body with his helmet off. It's almost like for some reason they wanted to obscure the actor or something...
Oh my God, they didn't kill Not-Kara! I can't believe it....
Oh, wait, yes I do.
Did Lex forget that Ben has access to super power juice?
And what's the deal with the Tess copies getting caught in a verbal loop? I don't actually remember the episode with the alien with the duplicating powers Tess' powers are based on; so I don't remember if that person had the same tick. I know they said how the original had the ability to make copies that were exponentially stronger, but with each copy, they were dumber or something, but this just makes the Tess copies seem like they're poorly programmed robots.
Why did Luthor's goons allow Dreamer to continue wearing her mask?
Mind you, why are they wearing masks?
Again, why would Kara need Brainy to recover her evidence against Lex, rather than having back-ups before going to see the president???
"It's an invitation to the White House from Lex."
"Lena, you can't possibly be thinking about going?"
"If I don't go, Lex will come after the people I care about, and I can't have that happen."
Seriously, what the hell did I just watch? If they want Lena to go to the fucking white house to meet Lex for some reason, there's like, an infinite number of reasons to have her go than to immediately pull the "will come after the people I care about" bullshit. And if Lex is such a threat that you can't say no to an invitation to come to the white house, then you're setting the bar way too low for the allowances you're now prepared to let Lex get away with, as long as he's free. I mean, why even bother trying to stop him or bring him down if you're that intimidated by him?
And who are these people you care about, that you're so worried for? Half the people you know are in the room with you. You've already saved your mom from Lex and then probably poisoned her to get her to help you. I'm pretty sure you know that Kara is Supergirl.
"Can you believe it sis, three Luthors in the oval office. Only in America."
What?? You say that like you grew up on a poor dirt farm. By all accounts of the background of this iteration of Lex, his family was affluent from the start; it wouldn't have been all that far fetch to suggest his and Lena's dad rubbed elbows with a few presidents and been in that room before.
Again with this "powers" bullshit. I feel like I don't rant about how ambiguous they make this. It might as well be fucking magic, they way they treat aliens having extra-normal abilities. I mean, for one thing, so many extraterrestrial species having "powers" kind of detracts from the relative uniqueness of the likes of Superman or Supergirl; suddenly now everyone has fantastic abilities, which kind of makes Kryptonians sort of run of the mill. Which I guess isn't strictly a bad thing; it's not necessarily contradictory with anything about other species established in the comics and might even explain why Kryptonians wouldn't have just spread throughout the universe as veritable gods if they'd regularly be matched by some measure of power.
If anything, it kind of amplifies the inferiority complex often attributed to humanity in comparison to the likes of Superman or Supergirl. It's one thing for all of Earth's population to feel like it falls short compared to two beings, both of whom are sort of outliers, not just for their immediate surroundings on earth or their planet of origin, but for the rest of the universe. It's something else entirely if humans aren't measuring up to the vast majority of the cosmos. In that light Lena and Lockwood really do have a bit of a point about humans having abilities; not necessarily because humans can be trusted with them, but in the context of Earth being part of a larger cosmic order, surrounded by a universe filled with other species that could just as easily squash us like bugs if they wanted to, or enslave humanity, yeah, humanity kind of needs to up its game. I mean, the implications of extraterrestrial immigration opens a whole host of other talking points about humans being able to similarly leave their planet and travel the universe, but that's another discussion entirely.
The writers treat these abilities in a very hamfisted way. There's no thought behind what these abilities truly are; like I said, they might as well just be magic for all the internal logic that goes into them, rather than them being expressions of biological or technological advancement, like they should be. By all accounts, they're not even meta-human powers like on the Flash - which itself is interesting that, in the course of the discussion about whether humans on Supergirl's earth should have abilities, at no point does Supergirl at least bring up the fact that she's aware of a version of Earth where this is already a reality. Meanwhile over on the Flash, Team Flash spent most of the last season debating whether or not to take away powers from metas or give them the choice to be "cured".
But they treat the aliens as if, for one, they were all generically the same; that by virtue of being an "alien" they have "powers" and while those powers may manifest differently, they're all fundamentally the same - hence Lex somehow being able to harness those powers to turn them into cheap electricity; never mind the power dampening abilities. At least with meta-humans, the idea, I assume, is that the tech somehow inhibits the dark matter that grants a meta their powers...maybe. They seemed amazed at the ability of Cicada's dagger to do exactly that, yet somehow had developed technology to do that years ago.... But when it comes to power dampening for alien abilities, that shouldn't work in the vast the majority of instances. They're not all the same species, they don't all have the same abilities; and most of those abilities shouldn't be classified as a "power" so much as an inherent biological trait. Imagine them saying to someone, "I'm going to put these cuffs on you, and they're going to inhibit your "ability" to digest lactose. And then I'm going to put you in that chamber and turn that ability into electricity." Like, why and or how??
Gee, good thing J'Onn and Nia were there to help lead that distraction at the encampment. No way the rest of those aliens could have pulled off an elaborate plan like that without some very strong leadership....
And how the hell is Nia holding her own this fight without her powers? Shouldn't that mean she just has regular strength, assuming she didn't have regular levels of strength with her powers? I can't remember, was she she even trained to fight?
So if Brainy could predict so accurately when Dreamer would contact them, wouldn't he need to take into account that their powers would continue to be dampened upon arrival at their destination and the need to break free of their guards and shut off the power dampening tech for her to astral project; and as such, through extrapolation of those variables be able to just as easily infer that the most logical facility with the capability of dampening her powers was Shelly Island?
They almost definitely wrote and shot this episode before a certain investigative report was finished and released.... otherwise they wouldn't have put nearly so much stock into a single article accusing a perceived cultural savior of wrong doing and laying out the evidence actually having the desired effects of changing the minds of anyone not already inclined to believe the truth.
Oh for fuck sake.... if Lockwood was really that introspective and upset about being Luthors pawn, would he still spouting his idiocy and Supergirl and the other aliens?
I mean, yeah, I guess, maybe, but they've turned this guy into such a raving idiot - which, I suppose is the point, given the symbolism he's meant to represent - but it's a little too on the nose, you know? And they've taken him so far from where he started, that he just comes off as a punk and a lunkhead who Supergirl should just bitch slap into the sun and be done with it, because he's become so pathetic he shouldn't warrant more any more of her time than that.
"How are you alive! How did you do it??"
I mean, that's basically how it happened....
"How do you think I did it? I'm Supergirl"
Lex: "....with your glossy cape and your perfect hair..."
Okay, i'll give the show this one; I absolutely believe that Lex is solely motivated by his envy of Supergirl and Superman's hair.
Well, not surprisingly, they took the most interesting element of Brainiac's story, his being rebooted, cut it short and gave it an anti-climactic ending. Well done, you had me worried there was a competent writer in the writers room, but ostensibly if there was, you found them and beat them to death.
Needless to say, I'm a little disappointed by the way they realigned Brainiac, especially seeing how no one seemed to truly notice or care that he was acting differently, but also the fact that I don't think they effectively motivated his change back. The whole "boxes and boxes" thing worked only to the point of his ultimate breakdown, because that's arguably not a healthy mentality for dealing with stress or personal difficulties; so him going back to that seems ineffectual at the very least. Brainy noting how their actions make no sense and it being a logical paradox he's trying to reconcile is an intriguing motive, but they introduce part way through his change, as though that was a secondary consequence, instead of being the cause. But the thing that fails for me is how completely useless he ends up being; just bouncing around, making pointless observations and basically being Nia and J'Onn's cheerleader; when it might been better if he reconciled his logical paradox by deciding to make his own contribution to the effort, perhaps even to a degree where he faces an even greater danger and higher probability of dying - like containing all that energy that they're overloading the system with, which was enough to destroy Argos City in space and had to go somewhere. He could have tried to absorb it or redirect it safely somehow, to protect Nia and J'Onn; or at least maybe contain it (I forget if he's supposed to have a personal force field/shield or not. I feel like that's supposed to be something his Legion ring can do; I know Booster Gold can do that, but I don't remember if that's from his stolen Legion ring or something else). Naturally in this scenario Brainy would have been extremely injured, but ultimately survived, but taking on that kind of energy could have caused a system issue they could have followed up next year with him torn between the two Brainiac personas and actual delve into that more. Obviously they could always do that anyway, but there seems less motivation to do so now.
Oh no, they killed Not-Kara again.....or got reabsorbed into real-Kara....because why not?
That is, truly, how the whole thing with Savitar being Other-Future Barry should have played out, with them finding a way of merging the two Barrys back together. This doesn't seem like it was necessary; and they had the perfect setup to make Not-Kara Power Girl. Also, without the doppelganger, who admittedly the world thought was dead anyway, how do they prove to the world that it was the her and not Kara who attacked the white house? I know, Kara's magic article that's going to change history and cure cancer, etc. is all they need....
Yeah, I was just about to say, doesn't Lex still also have powers? Why was Kara worried about dropping him? For that matter, why did he really even need the suit?
So Lena didn't know and Lex is the one to tell her and she feels bad about not figuring out or being told? Bull shit. Fuck you. If they're going to use this as the catalyst for Lena to become a villain, I'm done with this show. I expected all to be revealed by the end of the season, especially the way they were making a big deal about it, and this is predictable, but no less stupid.
And I don't for a second believe Lex is dead; he can almost literally put a mechanical super suit from his ass. Nothing will convince me he didn't have some sort of protection in place, along with probably some blood packs in the eventuality he needed to fake his death.
Because the one dipshit troll posted the fucking spoiler in the God damn title of their thread, I knew James lost an eye in the finale, but seriously, that's it? Were they trying to be clever by making it a blink and you'll miss it? Because even if you rewind it, other than James clutching his eye after being "cured" or whatever, there was no indication that anything actually happened to his eye until much later when he's suddenly wearing an eye patch and Nia makes a comment about the cure having kick-back - which Lockwood didn't appear to suffer an ill effects from....
Oh, yeah... Kelly and Alex.... It's not that I forgot about them, it's that I didn't care.....
If you have to have your characters say a relationship feels like the most naturally thing in the world, it probably isn't.
So what happened to Kara's plan to come out... I mean come on to ... I mean, reveal her true identity to Lena once all this stuff with Lex was over with?
Oh, no, yeah, "not tonight". Hey, look at that, the next scene appears to be the next day; Kara went straight up to Lena and told her she was Supergirl, right? Right???
Would this many people give a shit about what the son of a domestic terrorist like Lockwood has to say? I suppose so, but this press conference style interview seems a bit much. And would his son even want to say it? Would he be comfortable with that kind of scrutiny, let alone feel the need to say such inspiring words? Sure, he'd want to distance himself from his dad, probably; assuming he wouldn't just end up buying into the same bullshit his dad and granddad did, perpetuating the cycle. While they showed indications of him doubting his dad, the fact that an alien murdered his mom should have at least muddied the waters.
I'm not sure Supergirl hovering overhead like a god, literally looking down at the masses while Lockwood's son speaks is quite the imagery of equality they were going for, but alright.
Seriously, Lena just left Lex rotting in the chair; and now the Monitor is come to work some ambiguous magic, that will no doubt bring him back to life.....
...And, oh, shit, I just realized the only reason they're doing Crisis next year is to compete for attention Infinity War/Endgame brought Marvel.....
This episode was definitely not worth the wait or any level of anticipation.....although on the other hand, I expected it to be complete and utter garbage, which it was.... so yay for meeting expectations?
I honest wondered if there were entire threads on here talking about episodes that I just couldn't see, because I had either blocked the user or for some reason the author had blocked me. I mean, I don' t know why they'd block me, but that was the best explanation I had for why there was so little discussion about the shows. Now I know that you can see threads by people you blocked and vice versa, which is profoundly stupid, but that also means there's just that little interest in what's going on in the shows.
So here we go...
Okay, so I haven't even gotten to the start of the actual episode, but rather one of the commercials leading into it and I want to comment on it, because I've seen it before I feel the ending at least is weird and kind of creepy. It's for a cell company in my area, which I'm honestly not sure how prominent it is now; I believe it at least used to be just a regional provider, but I don't know how big US Cellular is now, but I was able to find the commercial on youtube:
Can we talk about how creepy the ending is, where the spokesman discloses the fact that he's not a real doctor and the woman says, "Oh, I know" and the guy acts surprised? Like, what the fuck? So does that mean you were hoping to make her think you were a doctor? And shouldn't that be disclosed before an examine? I don't know how invasive diagnosing "green with new phone envy" is - one would assume not terribly invasive, considering her face is partially green. And yet, she's wearing an exam gown, which isn't typically something I've had to wear for a more routine check-up in the doctor's office. She took off her fucking clothes, or at least most of them, to talk with a guy whom she knows isn't a doctor; and likewise, this guy didn't stop her or at least say something before she got undressed. There's some shady connotations to the premise of this commercial....
Okay, on with the show.
I actually didn't need much of the recap this time around, surprisingly I did remember what happened last time; although I could have done without the reminder of Alex resuscitating Kara with grass....which written out and taken a certain way sounds like a more entertaining episode than we actually got.... but seriously, I don't think I forgot that part per se, so much as tried to forget it because it was so fucking stupid. That's not how photosynthesis work, so fuck all y'all.
Gee, I was hoping we'd get the backstory of Not-Kara going to see Mama Danvers, there's so many questions.
....I can't think of any, but ostensibly if the writers feel the need to fill in those blanks, it must be necessary....
Lex: "Don't worry, it won't hurt."
**Chamber closes, muffled screams**
Lex: "Guess I was wrong."
Dear God, I think this is a prime example of what everyone was afraid they would do with Lex when they cast Jon Cryer in the role - that they would try and make Lex funny. Lex fucking Luthor is not funny. Is a cynical asshole who doesn't give two shits about any other living being; what they think, how they feel, nothing. He's not completely emotionless or humorless, mind you, but he's not supposed to be funny.
Mind you, thinking about how, say, Clancy Brown might have delivered that line as Lex, and I'll admit it might have worked, but arguably because he wouldn't be trying to be funny when he'd say it; it would have been much dryer and matter of fact. And the satisfaction of saying something like that out loud would be more to demonstrate his utter contempt for the people he's hurting, which is what he gets off on. This was more like a Joker line, and a weak one at that.
Now see, Lex talking to the president in the oval office is more of how Lex should be. It really is a fine line; and it's hard to say whether it's the writing or the actor, because it really could go either way, especially given some of the possible nuances mentioned above. So did Jon try hamming it up in the previous seen as his own choice for how the character would deliver those lines, or was he told to?
"My Way"? Seriously? Oh Christ, and Lex is singing along....
Where the hell does Lex keep his super-suit?
I'm sort of on the fence whether to expect this to truly be the end for Not-Kara. It seems too anti-climactic, but on the other hand, so was the majority of her story. They haven't exactly built her up or made much real use of her. Basically I guess I won't be surprised if she's not really dead, but I won't be surprised if she stays dead. Mostly though this seems like bad plotting. There's no reason to have dragged this out from the previous episode; when they probably could have found a way to fit the entirety of first 8 minutes of this episode into the previous episode and made it a more seamless part of the story, instead of doubling back to fill in some of these gaps. The only reason, presumably, is because they didn't want to put Jon Cryer in both episodes. And maybe that's because he doesn't live in Vancouver so it's convenient to put him in an episode, I don't know; I can't imagine it costs the show that much to have him in an episode, though I have long since noticed how far they've gone out of their way not to have him an episode, yet still be at the forefront of the story.
Either way, it would have made much more sense and worked better to contrast the story of Kara and her double to see one Alex bringing their Kara back from near death, while another "Alex" kills their Kara. That seems like that should be basic plot construction.
Well that's convenient; in one shot Lex is flying around with the body of Not-Kara with his helmet on and in the next shot he's flying around carrying her body with his helmet off. It's almost like for some reason they wanted to obscure the actor or something...
Oh my God, they didn't kill Not-Kara! I can't believe it....
Basically I guess I won't be surprised if she's not really dead
Did Lex forget that Ben has access to super power juice?
And what's the deal with the Tess copies getting caught in a verbal loop? I don't actually remember the episode with the alien with the duplicating powers Tess' powers are based on; so I don't remember if that person had the same tick. I know they said how the original had the ability to make copies that were exponentially stronger, but with each copy, they were dumber or something, but this just makes the Tess copies seem like they're poorly programmed robots.
Why did Luthor's goons allow Dreamer to continue wearing her mask?
Mind you, why are they wearing masks?
Again, why would Kara need Brainy to recover her evidence against Lex, rather than having back-ups before going to see the president???
"It's an invitation to the White House from Lex."
"Lena, you can't possibly be thinking about going?"
"If I don't go, Lex will come after the people I care about, and I can't have that happen."
Seriously, what the hell did I just watch? If they want Lena to go to the fucking white house to meet Lex for some reason, there's like, an infinite number of reasons to have her go than to immediately pull the "will come after the people I care about" bullshit. And if Lex is such a threat that you can't say no to an invitation to come to the white house, then you're setting the bar way too low for the allowances you're now prepared to let Lex get away with, as long as he's free. I mean, why even bother trying to stop him or bring him down if you're that intimidated by him?
And who are these people you care about, that you're so worried for? Half the people you know are in the room with you. You've already saved your mom from Lex and then probably poisoned her to get her to help you. I'm pretty sure you know that Kara is Supergirl.
"Can you believe it sis, three Luthors in the oval office. Only in America."
What?? You say that like you grew up on a poor dirt farm. By all accounts of the background of this iteration of Lex, his family was affluent from the start; it wouldn't have been all that far fetch to suggest his and Lena's dad rubbed elbows with a few presidents and been in that room before.
Again with this "powers" bullshit. I feel like I don't rant about how ambiguous they make this. It might as well be fucking magic, they way they treat aliens having extra-normal abilities. I mean, for one thing, so many extraterrestrial species having "powers" kind of detracts from the relative uniqueness of the likes of Superman or Supergirl; suddenly now everyone has fantastic abilities, which kind of makes Kryptonians sort of run of the mill. Which I guess isn't strictly a bad thing; it's not necessarily contradictory with anything about other species established in the comics and might even explain why Kryptonians wouldn't have just spread throughout the universe as veritable gods if they'd regularly be matched by some measure of power.
If anything, it kind of amplifies the inferiority complex often attributed to humanity in comparison to the likes of Superman or Supergirl. It's one thing for all of Earth's population to feel like it falls short compared to two beings, both of whom are sort of outliers, not just for their immediate surroundings on earth or their planet of origin, but for the rest of the universe. It's something else entirely if humans aren't measuring up to the vast majority of the cosmos. In that light Lena and Lockwood really do have a bit of a point about humans having abilities; not necessarily because humans can be trusted with them, but in the context of Earth being part of a larger cosmic order, surrounded by a universe filled with other species that could just as easily squash us like bugs if they wanted to, or enslave humanity, yeah, humanity kind of needs to up its game. I mean, the implications of extraterrestrial immigration opens a whole host of other talking points about humans being able to similarly leave their planet and travel the universe, but that's another discussion entirely.
The writers treat these abilities in a very hamfisted way. There's no thought behind what these abilities truly are; like I said, they might as well just be magic for all the internal logic that goes into them, rather than them being expressions of biological or technological advancement, like they should be. By all accounts, they're not even meta-human powers like on the Flash - which itself is interesting that, in the course of the discussion about whether humans on Supergirl's earth should have abilities, at no point does Supergirl at least bring up the fact that she's aware of a version of Earth where this is already a reality. Meanwhile over on the Flash, Team Flash spent most of the last season debating whether or not to take away powers from metas or give them the choice to be "cured".
But they treat the aliens as if, for one, they were all generically the same; that by virtue of being an "alien" they have "powers" and while those powers may manifest differently, they're all fundamentally the same - hence Lex somehow being able to harness those powers to turn them into cheap electricity; never mind the power dampening abilities. At least with meta-humans, the idea, I assume, is that the tech somehow inhibits the dark matter that grants a meta their powers...maybe. They seemed amazed at the ability of Cicada's dagger to do exactly that, yet somehow had developed technology to do that years ago.... But when it comes to power dampening for alien abilities, that shouldn't work in the vast the majority of instances. They're not all the same species, they don't all have the same abilities; and most of those abilities shouldn't be classified as a "power" so much as an inherent biological trait. Imagine them saying to someone, "I'm going to put these cuffs on you, and they're going to inhibit your "ability" to digest lactose. And then I'm going to put you in that chamber and turn that ability into electricity." Like, why and or how??
Gee, good thing J'Onn and Nia were there to help lead that distraction at the encampment. No way the rest of those aliens could have pulled off an elaborate plan like that without some very strong leadership....
And how the hell is Nia holding her own this fight without her powers? Shouldn't that mean she just has regular strength, assuming she didn't have regular levels of strength with her powers? I can't remember, was she she even trained to fight?
So if Brainy could predict so accurately when Dreamer would contact them, wouldn't he need to take into account that their powers would continue to be dampened upon arrival at their destination and the need to break free of their guards and shut off the power dampening tech for her to astral project; and as such, through extrapolation of those variables be able to just as easily infer that the most logical facility with the capability of dampening her powers was Shelly Island?
They almost definitely wrote and shot this episode before a certain investigative report was finished and released.... otherwise they wouldn't have put nearly so much stock into a single article accusing a perceived cultural savior of wrong doing and laying out the evidence actually having the desired effects of changing the minds of anyone not already inclined to believe the truth.
Oh for fuck sake.... if Lockwood was really that introspective and upset about being Luthors pawn, would he still spouting his idiocy and Supergirl and the other aliens?
I mean, yeah, I guess, maybe, but they've turned this guy into such a raving idiot - which, I suppose is the point, given the symbolism he's meant to represent - but it's a little too on the nose, you know? And they've taken him so far from where he started, that he just comes off as a punk and a lunkhead who Supergirl should just bitch slap into the sun and be done with it, because he's become so pathetic he shouldn't warrant more any more of her time than that.
"How are you alive! How did you do it??"
I mean, that's basically how it happened....
"How do you think I did it? I'm Supergirl"
Lex: "....with your glossy cape and your perfect hair..."
Okay, i'll give the show this one; I absolutely believe that Lex is solely motivated by his envy of Supergirl and Superman's hair.
Well, not surprisingly, they took the most interesting element of Brainiac's story, his being rebooted, cut it short and gave it an anti-climactic ending. Well done, you had me worried there was a competent writer in the writers room, but ostensibly if there was, you found them and beat them to death.
Needless to say, I'm a little disappointed by the way they realigned Brainiac, especially seeing how no one seemed to truly notice or care that he was acting differently, but also the fact that I don't think they effectively motivated his change back. The whole "boxes and boxes" thing worked only to the point of his ultimate breakdown, because that's arguably not a healthy mentality for dealing with stress or personal difficulties; so him going back to that seems ineffectual at the very least. Brainy noting how their actions make no sense and it being a logical paradox he's trying to reconcile is an intriguing motive, but they introduce part way through his change, as though that was a secondary consequence, instead of being the cause. But the thing that fails for me is how completely useless he ends up being; just bouncing around, making pointless observations and basically being Nia and J'Onn's cheerleader; when it might been better if he reconciled his logical paradox by deciding to make his own contribution to the effort, perhaps even to a degree where he faces an even greater danger and higher probability of dying - like containing all that energy that they're overloading the system with, which was enough to destroy Argos City in space and had to go somewhere. He could have tried to absorb it or redirect it safely somehow, to protect Nia and J'Onn; or at least maybe contain it (I forget if he's supposed to have a personal force field/shield or not. I feel like that's supposed to be something his Legion ring can do; I know Booster Gold can do that, but I don't remember if that's from his stolen Legion ring or something else). Naturally in this scenario Brainy would have been extremely injured, but ultimately survived, but taking on that kind of energy could have caused a system issue they could have followed up next year with him torn between the two Brainiac personas and actual delve into that more. Obviously they could always do that anyway, but there seems less motivation to do so now.
Oh no, they killed Not-Kara again.....or got reabsorbed into real-Kara....because why not?
That is, truly, how the whole thing with Savitar being Other-Future Barry should have played out, with them finding a way of merging the two Barrys back together. This doesn't seem like it was necessary; and they had the perfect setup to make Not-Kara Power Girl. Also, without the doppelganger, who admittedly the world thought was dead anyway, how do they prove to the world that it was the her and not Kara who attacked the white house? I know, Kara's magic article that's going to change history and cure cancer, etc. is all they need....
Yeah, I was just about to say, doesn't Lex still also have powers? Why was Kara worried about dropping him? For that matter, why did he really even need the suit?
So Lena didn't know and Lex is the one to tell her and she feels bad about not figuring out or being told? Bull shit. Fuck you. If they're going to use this as the catalyst for Lena to become a villain, I'm done with this show. I expected all to be revealed by the end of the season, especially the way they were making a big deal about it, and this is predictable, but no less stupid.
And I don't for a second believe Lex is dead; he can almost literally put a mechanical super suit from his ass. Nothing will convince me he didn't have some sort of protection in place, along with probably some blood packs in the eventuality he needed to fake his death.
Because the one dipshit troll posted the fucking spoiler in the God damn title of their thread, I knew James lost an eye in the finale, but seriously, that's it? Were they trying to be clever by making it a blink and you'll miss it? Because even if you rewind it, other than James clutching his eye after being "cured" or whatever, there was no indication that anything actually happened to his eye until much later when he's suddenly wearing an eye patch and Nia makes a comment about the cure having kick-back - which Lockwood didn't appear to suffer an ill effects from....
Oh, yeah... Kelly and Alex.... It's not that I forgot about them, it's that I didn't care.....
If you have to have your characters say a relationship feels like the most naturally thing in the world, it probably isn't.
So what happened to Kara's plan to come out... I mean come on to ... I mean, reveal her true identity to Lena once all this stuff with Lex was over with?
Oh, no, yeah, "not tonight". Hey, look at that, the next scene appears to be the next day; Kara went straight up to Lena and told her she was Supergirl, right? Right???
Would this many people give a shit about what the son of a domestic terrorist like Lockwood has to say? I suppose so, but this press conference style interview seems a bit much. And would his son even want to say it? Would he be comfortable with that kind of scrutiny, let alone feel the need to say such inspiring words? Sure, he'd want to distance himself from his dad, probably; assuming he wouldn't just end up buying into the same bullshit his dad and granddad did, perpetuating the cycle. While they showed indications of him doubting his dad, the fact that an alien murdered his mom should have at least muddied the waters.
I'm not sure Supergirl hovering overhead like a god, literally looking down at the masses while Lockwood's son speaks is quite the imagery of equality they were going for, but alright.
Seriously, Lena just left Lex rotting in the chair; and now the Monitor is come to work some ambiguous magic, that will no doubt bring him back to life.....
...And, oh, shit, I just realized the only reason they're doing Crisis next year is to compete for attention Infinity War/Endgame brought Marvel.....
This episode was definitely not worth the wait or any level of anticipation.....although on the other hand, I expected it to be complete and utter garbage, which it was.... so yay for meeting expectations?