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Post by darkpast on Jun 30, 2019 4:50:27 GMT
they could maybe do a tv series not dumbed down for the masses, but movies would be out of the question
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Post by alpha128 on Jun 30, 2019 14:23:44 GMT
they could maybe do a tv series not dumbed down for the masses, but movies would be out of the question Hollywood never leaves franchises alone. For example, after a series of Charlie's Angels reboot movies in the early 2000s, they're re-rebooting the series this year (as someone posted on Film General). I never saw any of these films, but somebody must watch them because Hollywood keeps making them. It's going to be the same with the POTA franchise. Within twenty years, it will be re-rebooted.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jul 8, 2019 13:17:17 GMT
they could maybe do a tv series not dumbed down for the masses, but movies would be out of the question Why? This last trilogy was pretty good.
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Post by darkpast on Jul 8, 2019 15:10:22 GMT
they could maybe do a tv series not dumbed down for the masses, but movies would be out of the question Why? This last trilogy was pretty good. they were made by 20th century Fox, don't trust Mickey |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Jul 8, 2019 15:41:46 GMT
Why? This last trilogy was pretty good. they were made by 20th century Fox, don't trust Mickey Why not? The MCU's been a huge hit. And of course, there's Pixar.
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Post by DarkManX on Jul 12, 2019 0:24:37 GMT
I still want the series to continue, at the very least I want to see how the ape society progresses until Taylor shows up.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 7, 2019 22:52:35 GMT
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 7, 2019 23:19:34 GMT
I don’t understand why. The last one didn’t even do that well.
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Post by darkpast on Aug 8, 2019 3:09:19 GMT
they better still use Weta , Di$ney don't own them
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Post by sdrew13163 on Aug 9, 2019 1:24:07 GMT
I don’t understand why. The last one didn’t even do that well. That’s because it was essentially an art house film. Disney will ditch that mentality quick. |
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 13, 2019 13:37:37 GMT
I don’t understand why. The last one didn’t even do that well. Because collectively, it's a multi-million dollar franchise.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 13, 2019 14:47:03 GMT
I don’t understand why. The last one didn’t even do that well. Because collectively, it's a multi-million dollar franchise. But why make a continuation of the most recent series? The last film was a disappointment, and Caesar is now dead. What else is there to do with that story? Disney doesn’t even need this franchise. They have a million other more valuable properties to reap the benefits of.
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 13, 2019 16:34:04 GMT
Because collectively, it's a multi-million dollar franchise. But why make a continuation of the most recent series? The last film was a disappointment, and Caesar is now dead. What else is there to do with that story? Disney doesn’t even need this franchise. They have a million other more valuable properties to reap the benefits of. I disagree. The last film was a fitting pay off to Caesar's story with some great moments, incredible performances, and haunting imagery. There is always more to do with a story. This last Apes trilogy showed that to be true. We can follow other apes and see if and how the rest learn to speak. We can follow Caesar's son and watch as he tries to live up to his father's legacy. And yes, Disney has plenty of other franchises, but that doesn't mean they have to ignore this one. They paid a lot of money for Fox and its properties. They want a return on all their investments. It's business.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 13, 2019 17:45:26 GMT
But why make a continuation of the most recent series? The last film was a disappointment, and Caesar is now dead. What else is there to do with that story? Disney doesn’t even need this franchise. They have a million other more valuable properties to reap the benefits of. I disagree. The last film was a fitting pay off to Caesar's story with some great moments, incredible performances, and haunting imagery. There is always more to do with a story. This last Apes trilogy showed that to be true. We can follow other apes and see if and how the rest learn to speak. We can follow Caesar's son and watch as he tries to live up to his father's legacy. And yes, Disney has plenty of other franchises, but that doesn't mean they have to ignore this one. They paid a lot of money for Fox and its properties. They want a return on all their investments. It's business. I don’t mean it was a disappointment in terms of quality (although I didn’t think it was anything special). I meant that financially speaking, it performed below expectations. I disagree that there’s always more to do with a story. What worthwhile stories are there left to tell in that universe? How many stories of humans fighting apes can you feasibly tell before it gets stale? Disney got the X-Men, the Fantastic Four, Hulu, Simpsons, and the Avatar franchise out of their deal with Fox, not to mention more content to put on Disney+. What could the Planet of the Apes franchise have to offer?
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 13, 2019 17:52:51 GMT
I disagree. The last film was a fitting pay off to Caesar's story with some great moments, incredible performances, and haunting imagery. There is always more to do with a story. This last Apes trilogy showed that to be true. We can follow other apes and see if and how the rest learn to speak. We can follow Caesar's son and watch as he tries to live up to his father's legacy. And yes, Disney has plenty of other franchises, but that doesn't mean they have to ignore this one. They paid a lot of money for Fox and its properties. They want a return on all their investments. It's business. I don’t mean it was a disappointment in terms of quality (although I didn’t think it was anything special). I meant that financially speaking, it performed below expectations. I disagree that there’s always more to do with a story. What worthwhile stories are there left to tell in that universe? True, it did under perform, but so did several of the original Apes movies. It's not a death sentence. After all, it still made a profit and did better than the first one.
They could've said the first thing after the first Apes movie. They don't have to be carbon copies. They can explore other themes, other characters. And if it gets stale, the series lies low for a while and then a reboot for a new generation.
More money. A business doesn't just stop wanting to make a profit. There are lots of avenues for merchandising and licenses to bring in more revenue. The Apes films are a well known and profitable brand. That's what Disney (and any good business) looks for.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 13, 2019 17:53:37 GMT
I don’t understand why. The last one didn’t even do that well.  .
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 13, 2019 18:05:45 GMT
I don’t mean it was a disappointment in terms of quality (although I didn’t think it was anything special). I meant that financially speaking, it performed below expectations. I disagree that there’s always more to do with a story. What worthwhile stories are there left to tell in that universe? True, it did under perform, but so did several of the original Apes movies. It's not a death sentence. After all, it still made a profit and did better than the first one. I know it grossed more than the first one, but it made less money domestically, and didn’t have especially good legs either. I guess the somewhat misleading marketing may have played a hand in that, but the bottom line is that the movie’s performance didn’t speak very well to the prospects of making more films set in that world, especially when the most popular character is now dead. Sure, Disney likes making money, but can they expect to milk a franchise that’s already been seeing diminishing returns?
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Post by PreachCaleb on Aug 13, 2019 18:59:01 GMT
True, it did under perform, but so did several of the original Apes movies. It's not a death sentence. After all, it still made a profit and did better than the first one. I know it grossed more than the first one, but it made less money domestically, and didn’t have especially good legs either. I guess the somewhat misleading marketing may have played a hand in that, but the bottom line is that the movie’s performance didn’t speak very well to the prospects of making more films set in that world, especially when the most popular character is now dead. Sure, Disney likes making money, but can they expect to milk a franchise that’s already been seeing diminishing returns? Fox did. Why shouldn't Disney?
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