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Post by Sulla on Apr 11, 2017 17:31:35 GMT
Who moved this thread in religion? It's not about religion, morons. Any rational person would strongly suspect that starting a thread asking about everyone's stance about religions would inevitably lead to discussions about religion.
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Post by Karl Aksel on Apr 11, 2017 17:32:39 GMT
Who moved this thread in religion? It's not about religion, morons. What is it about, then?
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Apr 11, 2017 17:34:32 GMT
Who moved this thread in religion? It's not about religion, morons. Any rational person would strongly suspect that starting a thread asking about everyone's stance about religions would inevitably lead to discussions about religion. So you're saying if I start a thread about Doctor Who it will be moved to the Doctor Who board and if I start one about Johnny Cash or Waylon Jennings it will be moved to the Country Music board? That's just madness!
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Post by Sulla on Apr 11, 2017 17:36:29 GMT
Any rational person would strongly suspect that starting a thread asking about everyone's stance about religions would inevitably lead to discussions about religion. So you're saying if I start a thread about Doctor Who it will be moved to the Doctor Who board and if I start one about Johnny Cash or Waylon Jennings it will be moved to the Country Music board? That's just madness! I've looked at that Country Music board. It does need some help.
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Post by theoncomingstorm on Apr 11, 2017 17:38:26 GMT
So you're saying if I start a thread about Doctor Who it will be moved to the Doctor Who board and if I start one about Johnny Cash or Waylon Jennings it will be moved to the Country Music board? That's just madness! I've looked at that Country Music board. It does need some help. Country Music is dead. It has been for awhile. I tried watching CMT a few days ago for the first time in years and after about six videos I gave up.
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Post by deviates on Apr 11, 2017 17:46:53 GMT
I am a Christian, which means, among other things, that I know that Jesus is God and King of the Universe. Is that above or below the Masters of the Universe?
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Post by Sulla on Apr 11, 2017 17:51:33 GMT
I've looked at that Country Music board. It does need some help. Country Music is dead. It has been for awhile. I tried watching CMT a few days ago for the first time in years and after about six videos I gave up. I'm watching CMT regularly now for Sun Records. Elvis, Cash, Snow, Jerry Lee, Jimmy Swaggart, Ike Turner, etc. And Sam Phillips has a hottie for an assistant. And they sometimes show great Country artists such as Taylor Swift.
You should go over to the Country Music board and show those young whippersnappers a thing or two. You could start a thread called Real Country Music.
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Post by NJtoTX on Apr 11, 2017 18:31:36 GMT
I am a Christian, which means, among other things, that I know that Jesus is God and King of the Universe. What you believe and what you know are not equivalent.
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 11, 2017 18:36:11 GMT
tpfkar There's no good reason to think deities are actual, and very good reasons to assume that they are not. I cannot see how a man of any large degree of humorous perception can ever be religious -- unless he purposely shut the eyes of his mind & keep them shut by force.
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Post by vernuf on Apr 11, 2017 18:52:23 GMT
I wonder why someone chooses to believe or deny dieties mindlessly by becoming a theist or atheist, when the only rational position is agnosticism? If there are no proofs about the existence or nonexistence of gods, the only rational choice is to wait until somehow it can be proven by facts. People who believe or deny without facts have irrational minds. I choose agnosticism. People who think agnosticism is mutually exclusive with theism or atheism are in a poor position to say atheists or theists have irrational minds.
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Post by vernuf on Apr 11, 2017 18:53:46 GMT
Who moved this thread in religion? It's not about religion, morons. As if we needed more evidence you are insufficiently qualified to talk about how rational other people's minds are.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 19:45:30 GMT
Who moved this thread in religion? It's not about religion, morons. Any rational person would strongly suspect that starting a thread asking about everyone's stance about religions would inevitably lead to discussions about religion. I love it when people say stupid things 😂
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Post by Sulla on Apr 11, 2017 20:50:07 GMT
Any rational person would strongly suspect that starting a thread asking about everyone's stance about religions would inevitably lead to discussions about religion. I love it when people say stupid things 😂 Yeah, it's even funnier after they've talked down to people in the op.
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Post by johnblutarsky on Apr 11, 2017 21:27:32 GMT
Well, cats are considered to be gods by some.
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Post by Catman on Apr 11, 2017 21:28:47 GMT
Well, cats are considered to be gods by some. Cats certain do.
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Post by OpiateOfTheMasses on Apr 11, 2017 21:37:49 GMT
I wonder why someone chooses to believe or deny dieties mindlessly by becoming a theist or atheist, when the only rational position is agnosticism? If there are no proofs about the existence or nonexistence of gods, the only rational choice is to wait until somehow it can be proven by facts. People who believe or deny without facts have irrational minds. I choose agnosticism. The whole point of belief is that there is no proof. If you have proof then it's no longer "belief" or "faith" it's just "knowing". So most believers will be agnostics, because they don't claim to "know" - they only claim to "believe". If/when you meet someone who claims to "know" then you're probably dealing with someone who's either lying or is delusional. Now that we've established that you (like pretty much everyone else on the planet) is agnostic, what's next? You need to decide whether or not you believe in god/gods. If you do - then you're a theist, if you don't then you're an atheist. It really is that simple. Claiming you'll "wait until somehow it can be proved" does not mean you don't have a belief at the moment, as belief has nothing to do with proof. You will either have that belief in a god/gods making you a theist or if you don't then you automatically fall into the atheist category. "I don't know" is just something you say to other people because you don't want to tell them (which is fine) but you know whether or not you believe.
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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 11, 2017 22:10:38 GMT
Upper left, but not far from the upper right. No one on this board appreciates precision more than I do. So when you attempt to be precise about "belief" as compared to "knowledge" there is no one on this board more pleased with such efforts. I think you should be aware however how hopeless that effort really is. There really is no point at all discussing what anyone might "know" or "not know" about an experience so personal as the "god" most people mean when they use that word. It is not some concrete thing like a brick that everyone can experience the same way, agree exists in the same way, and agree what properties it has. Your numbers are are never going to mean anything at all. Most people who "know" god do not expect anyone to acknowledge their personal experience. Why would they? They aren't stupid, like some stupid atheist who believes there is no god because he expects something concrete. They might share their experiences with other people who have had similar experiences. That is all. The Pope, the Dalai Lama, Franklin Graham, the various Imams, and other renowned and recognized religious leaders and commentators do not call themselves "gnostics" although they very likely do have a familiarity with the divine far and away more detailed and "verified" than any retarded kids playing on computers. So how do you expect to compile accurate numbers? Won't a lot of people wonder how you could do that seeing how the reports are not dependable? Won't large numbers of people quickly realize you are just a blithering idiot?
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Post by Arlon10 on Apr 11, 2017 23:03:25 GMT
I wonder why someone chooses to believe or deny dieties mindlessly by becoming a theist or atheist, when the only rational position is agnosticism? If there are no proofs about the existence or nonexistence of gods, the only rational choice is to wait until somehow it can be proven by facts. People who believe or deny without facts have irrational minds. I choose agnosticism. I have always had more respect for the intelligence of agnostics than for the intelligence of atheists. Agnosticism is a sort of "normal" attitude toward things that are not yet known. I believe it takes exposure to religion to understand the benefits of it and "agnostics" have generally not been exposed to the better renderings of religion. "Atheists" have often been exposed only to the worst readings of religion, or perhaps "misreadings" is the proper term, so I should probably give them more credit too. It might help all around if more people would read a book all the way through at least once in their lives.
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Post by Aj_June on Apr 12, 2017 2:37:52 GMT
Any rational person would strongly suspect that starting a thread asking about everyone's stance about religions would inevitably lead to discussions about religion. So you're saying if I start a thread about Doctor Who it will be moved to the Doctor Who board and if I start one about Johnny Cash or Waylon Jennings it will be moved to the Country Music board? That's just madness! That's the sort of sarcasm I like.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 4:36:46 GMT
I go from either agnostic to atheist often
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