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Post by heeeeey on Jul 2, 2019 14:27:14 GMT
Where have I preached? I've simply stated my personal beliefs. I don't give a shit what you or anyone else believes. If anything, YOU are the one preaching to ME about the Bible, what it is, what I am, etc., as if you are some sort of Bible scholar. Oh, you've just woken up and still in a slumber I see.
You are the one that is presenting the argument about God with the title of your thread not me, yet you can't defend it when challenged. You are the one that has preached about what Jesus said, but then claim you don't know the bible. I certainly don't, so I am asking you. Where are the true teachings of Christ, if they are not in the bible? I didn't post it as a 'challenge'. I posted simply as a mindset I have adopted, and explained why. I can't help it if that brought out all the preachers and judgmentalists out of the woodwork. I'm not the one preaching or judging anyone. Also, I'm stating what I know of Jesus's teachings and words which are there for anyone who wants to read them. They are quite clear. I don't know why you need me to explain them to you. He preached love, forgiveness, to not judge others, peace -- all good things. I don't know why you have a problem with it. Are you angry because you can't do what Graham did and post something He said that gives you an 'aha, your god is a meanie' moment?
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Post by heeeeey on Jul 2, 2019 14:40:37 GMT
I didn't post it as a 'challenge'. I posted simply as a mindset I have adopted, and explained why. I can't help it if that brought out all the preachers and judgmentalists out of the woodwork. I'm not the one preaching or judging anyone. Also, I'm stating what I know of Jesus's teachings and words which are there for anyone who wants to read them. They are quite clear. I don't know why you need me to explain them to you. He preached love, forgiveness, to not judge others, peace -- all good things. I don't know why you have a problem with it. Are you angry because you can't do what Graham did and post something He said that gives you an 'aha, your god is a meanie' moment? Your mindset is what you have expressed and it is not in a very good spot, that is why it has been challenged because you haven't and can't explain what you mean.
You are deflecting now and pretending that you don't understand what is being said or asked of you—or perhaps you don't understand, because you are sounding like a simpleton—either way, I suggest you stop digging more holes for yourself. You just may redeem yourself if you tell me where and what God and Jesus are, what they represent to each other and where they live and exist? And you still haven't proven that your God is or isn't a "meanie" with a concrete and solid foundation. Oh that's right, he doesn't really exist, except in your empty little head.
What this boils down to is that you are the one preaching to me and judging me for what I believe, and showing that you have an obvious problem with me for what I believe. I haven't said a single thing about what you believe, if anything, because I couldn't care less. If you notice, anyone can post whatever they believe on this board, I won't jump all over them for it because I don't care and I don't judge them for it. Apparently, you do. Btw, I already told you that you have to believe in the spirit to understand what God/Jesus are, and to understand Jesus's words explaining that. You said you don't, so what's the use explaining it?
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Post by Cody™ on Jul 2, 2019 14:42:09 GMT
“No one is 'celebrating' abortion“ No? Are you sure about that? “there is absolutely no proscription against abortion, as such, in the bible” Then you clearly don’t know your bible. It’s called the sixth commandment. ”Thou shalt not murder”Yeah, I'm sure, ass. No one in that clip is celebrating abortion, they're celebrating the fact that women have control of their own bodies under law, a right that the Xtian Taliban would like nothing better than to strip away from them. You, Cody, are the one in favor of death and misery, by wishing to take women back to a state where they would be forced to risk death by having to undergo painful, degrading and potentially lethal procedures in order to end an unintended pregnancy. But 'Fetus Uber Alles', right? Don't make me laugh with that 'Thou Shalt Not Murder' crap. Once more, there is no direct proscription of abortion in the bible, and your god has absolutely no problem with the mass slaughter of 'enemies' in war, including infant children, in the most horrific ways possible. In fact, he commands it. So clearly, his definition of 'murder' is just about as shaky and bullshit as yours. Small wonder you think you were made in his image...you were, and it's no compliment. “”No one in that clip is celebrating abortion, they're celebrating the fact that women have control of their own bodies under law,”” They’re celebrating women’s rights in terminating their unborn babies up to birth. In other words they’re celebrating abortion you piece of shit. “”Don't make me laugh with that 'Thou Shalt Not Murder' crap. Once more, there is no direct proscription of abortion in the bible, “” I just gave you a direct proscription you despicable vile creature. “You shall not murder/kill”. Terminating a fetus is the killing/murdering of a pre-born living human being. I know you’re a certified liar but you can’t honestly be this fucking stupid.
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Post by amyghost on Jul 2, 2019 15:43:19 GMT
Yeah, I'm sure, ass. No one in that clip is celebrating abortion, they're celebrating the fact that women have control of their own bodies under law, a right that the Xtian Taliban would like nothing better than to strip away from them. You, Cody, are the one in favor of death and misery, by wishing to take women back to a state where they would be forced to risk death by having to undergo painful, degrading and potentially lethal procedures in order to end an unintended pregnancy. But 'Fetus Uber Alles', right? Don't make me laugh with that 'Thou Shalt Not Murder' crap. Once more, there is no direct proscription of abortion in the bible, and your god has absolutely no problem with the mass slaughter of 'enemies' in war, including infant children, in the most horrific ways possible. In fact, he commands it. So clearly, his definition of 'murder' is just about as shaky and bullshit as yours. Small wonder you think you were made in his image...you were, and it's no compliment. “”No one in that clip is celebrating abortion, they're celebrating the fact that women have control of their own bodies under law,”” They’re celebrating women’s rights in terminating their unborn babies up to birth. In other words they’re celebrating abortion you piece of shit. “”Don't make me laugh with that 'Thou Shalt Not Murder' crap. Once more, there is no direct proscription of abortion in the bible, “” I just gave you a direct proscription you despicable vile creature. “You shall not murder/kill”. Terminating a fetus is the killing/murdering of a pre-born living human being. I know you’re a certified liar but you can’t honestly be this fucking stupid. No one could be as fucking stupid as you are Cody, so there's no use in vying for the title. Keep making excuses for your god, who's as vile, despicable, stupid, lying, etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum, as you are--which once more explains how you ended up in his image (or vice versa). Fortunately for me, I don't have to believe in him, nor live my life according to your insane rules. And that's the part that really chews your dick off--that you can't force the rest of the world to abide by your say-so.
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Post by Cody™ on Jul 2, 2019 16:16:10 GMT
“”No one in that clip is celebrating abortion, they're celebrating the fact that women have control of their own bodies under law,”” They’re celebrating women’s rights in terminating their unborn babies up to birth. In other words they’re celebrating abortion you piece of shit. “”Don't make me laugh with that 'Thou Shalt Not Murder' crap. Once more, there is no direct proscription of abortion in the bible, “” I just gave you a direct proscription you despicable vile creature. “You shall not murder/kill”. Terminating a fetus is the killing/murdering of a pre-born living human being. I know you’re a certified liar but you can’t honestly be this fucking stupid. No one could be as fucking stupid as you are Cody, so there's no use in vying for the title. Keep making excuses for your god, who's as vile, despicable, stupid, lying, etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum, as you are--which once more explains how you ended up in his image (or vice versa). Fortunately for me, I don't have to believe in him, nor live my life according to your insane rules. And that's the part that really chews your dick off--that you can't force the rest of the world to abide by your say-so. Of course you don’t have to believe in Him. We all know what you’d prefer to believe and what you stand for. - Open boarders and mass immigration. - Homosexuality - sexual promiscuity - Hedonism - Transgenderism - anti-Christianity - pro-Islam - third wave feminism - collapse of the family - materialism - self-centeredness - Narcissism - Depravity - Abortion - moral degeneracy - political correctness - Ultimate meaninglessness - Anti-Free speech - Virtue signalling - cuckoldry - Cultural relativism These are the fruits of the precious worldview you subscribe to. Yeah sounds fucking wonderful.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 2, 2019 16:25:33 GMT
Who's God is a big meanie?
You are the one attempting to defend and justify God, or whatever it is you want to call it, and failing miserably by not providing factual evidence of this divine one's existence or word, since you don't believe the bible has delivered it to your satisfaction. It has to be delivered from somewhere, so where is it? Graham posted scripture intended to imply that God is a big meanie who is the one who orders death and wars. My factual evidence are the words of Jesus Christ and his teachings ... because He preached, peace " Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." [Matt 10:34] Also, since you mention your Jesus being a 'divine being', by which you presumably mean God, then we can remember the atrocities ordered and committed by Himself, or by his sanctioned followers in the OT, including rape as an element of holy war and genocide. Since the Bible tells us that God does not change then it is reasonable to assume that Jesus, er, God was and is the same as ever, despite His fine words aimed at the different audience of the NT.
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Post by amyghost on Jul 2, 2019 16:25:46 GMT
No one could be as fucking stupid as you are Cody, so there's no use in vying for the title. Keep making excuses for your god, who's as vile, despicable, stupid, lying, etc., etc., etc., ad nauseum, as you are--which once more explains how you ended up in his image (or vice versa). Fortunately for me, I don't have to believe in him, nor live my life according to your insane rules. And that's the part that really chews your dick off--that you can't force the rest of the world to abide by your say-so. Of course you don’t have to believe in Him. We all know what you’d prefer to believe and what you stand for. - Open boarders and mass immigration. - Homosexuality - sexual promiscuity - Hedonism - Transgenderism - anti-Christianity - pro-Islam - third wave feminism - collapse of the family - materialism - self-centeredness - Narcissism - Depravity - Abortion - moral degeneracy - political correctness - Ultimate meaninglessness - Anti-Free speech - Virtue signalling - cuckoldry - Cultural relativism These are the fruits of the precious worldview you subscribe to. Yeah sounds fucking wonderful. Sounds a hell of a lot better than that closed-minded, mouth-breathing, ignorant-and-proud-of-it, footwashing, incestuous, inbred redneck, witch-burning, shit-for-brains religious paradigm you stand for, Cody. Anytime I find myself in support of something you oppose I know I'm on the right track. I highlighted that one item on the list in particular, because coming out of the mouth of a little Savonarola wannabe like yourself, that's several dimensions past hilarious.
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Post by heeeeey on Jul 2, 2019 16:28:44 GMT
Graham posted scripture intended to imply that God is a big meanie who is the one who orders death and wars. My factual evidence are the words of Jesus Christ and his teachings ... because He preached, peace " Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." [Matt 10:34] ^^^More cherry-picking and misinterpretation of parable.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 2, 2019 16:32:12 GMT
" Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." [Matt 10:34] ^^^More cherry-picking and misinterpretation of parable. So Jesus was wrong and we were to assume He brought peace after all? Or is it that He brings peace only a bit LOL?
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Post by amyghost on Jul 2, 2019 16:33:53 GMT
Graham posted scripture intended to imply that God is a big meanie who is the one who orders death and wars. My factual evidence are the words of Jesus Christ and his teachings ... because He preached, peace " Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." [Matt 10:34] Meaning that, like most Xtians, Heeeyyy, et al. worship JC rather than god, which is idolatry pure and simple, and forbidden by their god in his holy book--and which is also why Xtianity in general and Catholics in particular, have had to spend so much time trying to push the pretzel-logic notion that JC and god are somehow one and the same even though they're two separate and discrete beings, as scripture itself points out in a number of places: www.interfaith.org/community/threads/11508/
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Post by heeeeey on Jul 2, 2019 16:38:32 GMT
^^^More cherry-picking and misinterpretation of parable. So Jesus was wrong and we were to assume He brought peace after all? Or is it that He brings peace only a bit LOL? No, He wasn't wrong but YOU are. Lol
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 2, 2019 16:43:13 GMT
So Jesus was wrong and we were to assume He brought peace after all? Or is it that He brings peace only a bit LOL? No, He wasn't wrong but YOU are. Lol Wrong in taking your Christ at his words? I see! He also, one notes, goes on the same part of scripture to offer the selfish view that love of one's nearest or dearest, something entirely natural, is not preferable to loving Him: "Anyone who loves his father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me". Something rather self centered, which by forcing a choice between Him and one's loved ones, risks the division of families, and ultimately provides a recipe for religious extremism.
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Post by heeeeey on Jul 2, 2019 16:50:16 GMT
No, He wasn't wrong but YOU are. Lol Wrong in taking your Christ at his words? I see! He also, one notes, goes on the same part of scripture to offer the selfish view that love of one's nearest or dearest, something entirely natural, is not preferable to loving Him: "Anyone who loves his father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me". Something rather self centered, which by forcing a choice between Him and one's loved ones, risks the division of families, and ultimately provides a recipe for religious extremism. You don't understand what He meant.
Like I said, you have to believe in a spirit to know what He actually meant and was referring to. You don't, but that's okay.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 2, 2019 16:56:09 GMT
Wrong in taking your Christ at his words? I see! He also, one notes, goes on the same part of scripture to offer the selfish view that love of one's nearest or dearest, something entirely natural, is not preferable to loving Him: "Anyone who loves his father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me; anyone who loves his son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me". Something rather self centered, which by forcing a choice between Him and one's loved ones, risks the division of families, and ultimately provides a recipe for religious extremism. You don't understand what He meant.
Like I said, you have to believe in a spirit to know what He actually meant and was referring to. You don't, but that's okay.
That's why I asked whether one ought to take Him at his word or not, or if He just brought peace sometimes. But you haven't answered the question, but that's OK. Also, you seem to be introducing a qualification to make the verse able to be properly understood. That looks suspicious. It wouldn't be special pleading would it?
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Post by Cody™ on Jul 2, 2019 17:15:17 GMT
Of course you don’t have to believe in Him. We all know what you’d prefer to believe and what you stand for. - Open boarders and mass immigration. - Homosexuality - sexual promiscuity - Hedonism - Transgenderism - anti-Christianity - pro-Islam - third wave feminism - collapse of the family - materialism - self-centeredness - Narcissism - Depravity - Abortion - moral degeneracy - political correctness - Ultimate meaninglessness - Anti-Free speech - Virtue signalling - cuckoldry - Cultural relativism These are the fruits of the precious worldview you subscribe to. Yeah sounds fucking wonderful. Sounds a hell of a lot better than that closed-minded, mouth-breathing, ignorant-and-proud-of-it, footwashing, incestuous, inbred redneck, witch-burning, shit-for-brains religious paradigm you stand for, Cody. Anytime I find myself in support of something you oppose I know I'm on the right track. I highlighted that one item on the list in particular, because coming out of the mouth of a little Savonarola wannabe like yourself, that's several dimensions past hilarious. Except I have never been against free speech. I strongly support it to be one of the fundamental rights for every individual. Attempts at censorship more often then not come from the extreme left. So once again you’re guilty of making shit up as you go along.
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Post by amyghost on Jul 2, 2019 20:47:40 GMT
Sounds a hell of a lot better than that closed-minded, mouth-breathing, ignorant-and-proud-of-it, footwashing, incestuous, inbred redneck, witch-burning, shit-for-brains religious paradigm you stand for, Cody. Anytime I find myself in support of something you oppose I know I'm on the right track. I highlighted that one item on the list in particular, because coming out of the mouth of a little Savonarola wannabe like yourself, that's several dimensions past hilarious. Except I have never been against free speech. I strongly support it to be one of the fundamental rights for every individual. Attempts at censorship more often then not come from the extreme left. So once again you’re guilty of making shit up as you go along. Cody, you really should go see a doctor about that whack you took on the head at the last revival meeting. You're starting to hallucinate again .
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Post by Cody™ on Jul 2, 2019 20:59:05 GMT
Except I have never been against free speech. I strongly support it to be one of the fundamental rights for every individual. Attempts at censorship more often then not come from the extreme left. So once again you’re guilty of making shit up as you go along. Cody, you really should go see a doctor about that whack you took on the head at the last revival meeting. You're starting to hallucinate again . Provide some evidence of me opposing free speech. I challenge you, liar.
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Post by amyghost on Jul 2, 2019 21:01:18 GMT
Cody, you really should go see a doctor about that whack you took on the head at the last revival meeting. You're starting to hallucinate again . Provide some evidence of me opposing free speech. I challenge you, liar. Oh, you're for free speech alright, as long it agrees with the speech coming out of yours and your fellow Stormfront buddies' mouths. And it wouldn't be much point in your being against it anyway, joker, seeing as you have no control over it here or anywhere else.
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Post by Cody™ on Jul 2, 2019 21:03:45 GMT
Provide some evidence of me opposing free speech. I challenge you, liar. Oh, you're for free speech alright, as long it agrees with the speech coming out of yours and your fellow Stormfront buddies' mouths. And it wouldn't be much point in your being against it anyway, joker, seeing as you have no control over it here or anywhere else. Spare us your bs projecting and back up your claim with some evidence or admit you were making shit up as usual.
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Post by FilmFlaneur on Jul 2, 2019 21:04:04 GMT
Cody, you really should go see a doctor about that whack you took on the head at the last revival meeting. You're starting to hallucinate again . Provide some evidence of me opposing free speech. I challenge you, liar. Although it did not take place in America Cody recently took offence ("total madness") on this board at Islamic prayers being demonstrated to children in Scandinavia. One presumes that he would object even more strenuously should this religious education take place in the States, where the First Amendment covers religious freedom. QED.
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