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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 5, 2019 23:50:24 GMT
The video will definitely not be everyone’s cup of tea, but it is X-Men movie related.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 6, 2019 1:14:23 GMT
The video will definitely not be everyone’s cup of tea, but it is X-Men movie related. So I was correct all along that Disney and MCU Dictator Kevin Feige intentionally sabotaged Dark Pheonix.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 6, 2019 19:29:03 GMT
I want to make a video response to the video but the connection to my desktop is so fucked at the moment.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 13, 2019 12:58:13 GMT
And now it is fixed! Will be making a video response soon.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 15, 2019 17:29:05 GMT
The video will definitely not be everyone’s cup of tea, but it is X-Men movie related. So I was correct all along that Disney and MCU Dictator Kevin Feige intentionally sabotaged Dark Pheonix. No because they could have gone in any other direction. They could have made Chastain's character Lilandra (like everyone wanted anyway) since they obviously changed her in reshoots. And changing them from Skrulls into another race of shapeshifters is not even a change at all (see what I did there?). It's not like Feige told them exactly how to change them if he told them to change them at all. If they were told to make changes and they failed in those changes then it is on them. Also, there were a lot of things people complained about that had nothing to do with the 3rd act or changing them from Skrulls.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 15, 2019 20:38:21 GMT
So I was correct all along that Disney and MCU Dictator Kevin Feige intentionally sabotaged Dark Pheonix. No because they could have gone in any other direction. They could have made Chastain's character Lilandra (like everyone wanted anyway) since they obviously changed her in reshoots. And changing them from Skrulls into another race of shapeshifters is not even a change at all (see what I did there?). It's not like Feige told them exactly how to change them if he told them to change them at all. If they were told to make changes and they failed in those changes then it is on them. Also, there were a lot of things people complained about that had nothing to do with the 3rd act or changing them from Skrulls. That's who she originally signed to play back when this was a two-parter. After the studio condensed it into a single film at the last minute Kinberg decided to cut them for the same reason Marvel Studios cut Lady Death and Adam Warlock from Infinity War/Endgame: time.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 15, 2019 21:56:29 GMT
No because they could have gone in any other direction. They could have made Chastain's character Lilandra (like everyone wanted anyway) since they obviously changed her in reshoots. And changing them from Skrulls into another race of shapeshifters is not even a change at all (see what I did there?). It's not like Feige told them exactly how to change them if he told them to change them at all. If they were told to make changes and they failed in those changes then it is on them. Also, there were a lot of things people complained about that had nothing to do with the 3rd act or changing them from Skrulls. That's who she originally signed to play back when this was a two-parter. After the studio condensed it into a single film at the last minute Kinberg decided to cut them for the same reason Marvel Studios cut Lady Death and Adam Warlock from Infinity War/Endgame: time. That would be a poor excuse. You can easily do that story using the one movie they have using Lilandra. Take out all the extra unneeded crap like Magneto (I swear he doesn't need to be in every X-men movie). Or hell keep him to a Genosha cameo. Lilandra is basically the Moira role in the previous movies with a side flip near the end. I mean, they already have the story of an alien coming to Earth and wanting to take or destroy the Phoenix force because it destroyed a planet. You can even put the Imperial Guard in as fodder. This guy wearing red kinda looks like Gladiator. This tall guy kinda looks like Titan. This platinum blond looks kinda like Oracle.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 15, 2019 22:56:47 GMT
That's who she originally signed to play back when this was a two-parter. After the studio condensed it into a single film at the last minute Kinberg decided to cut them for the same reason Marvel Studios cut Lady Death and Adam Warlock from Infinity War/Endgame: time. That would be a poor excuse. You can easily do that story using the one movie they have using Lilandra. Take out all the extra unneeded crap like Magneto (I swear he doesn't need to be in every X-men movie). Or hell keep him to a Genosha cameo. Lilandra is basically the Moira role in the previous movies with a side flip near the end. I mean, they already have the story of an alien coming to Earth and wanting to take or destroy the Phoenix force because it destroyed a planet. You can even put the Imperial Guard in as fodder. This guy wearing red kinda looks like Gladiator. This tall guy kinda looks like Titan. This platinum blond looks kinda like Oracle. The condensation happened in late pre-production and allegedly they were last minute budget cuts. I guess that’s why they went with shape shifters, they save money on make-up.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 18, 2019 19:58:58 GMT
That would be a poor excuse. You can easily do that story using the one movie they have using Lilandra. Take out all the extra unneeded crap like Magneto (I swear he doesn't need to be in every X-men movie). Or hell keep him to a Genosha cameo. Lilandra is basically the Moira role in the previous movies with a side flip near the end. I mean, they already have the story of an alien coming to Earth and wanting to take or destroy the Phoenix force because it destroyed a planet. You can even put the Imperial Guard in as fodder. This guy wearing red kinda looks like Gladiator. This tall guy kinda looks like Titan. This platinum blond looks kinda like Oracle. The condensation happened in late pre-production and allegedly they were last minute budget cuts. I guess that’s why they went with shape shifters, they save money on make-up. This is the X-men movies. They have always skimped on how the characters look unless they are blue. Lilandra only needs black hair. You don't have to put the Imperial Guard in their costumes. And they have enough leftover blue make-up for Gladiator from Beast and Mystique. You can even make them look like regular people. I think that trying to CG shape-shifters would be more costly that having a Superman-type character and a guy that's slightly taller than the others.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 18, 2019 20:54:02 GMT
The condensation happened in late pre-production and allegedly they were last minute budget cuts. I guess that’s why they went with shape shifters, they save money on make-up. This is the X-men movies. They have always skimped on how the characters look unless they are blue. Lilandra only needs black hair. You don't have to put the Imperial Guard in their costumes. And they have enough leftover blue make-up for Gladiator from Beast and Mystique. You can even make them look like regular people. I think that trying to CG shape-shifters would be more costly that having a Superman-type character and a guy that's slightly taller than the others. None of the X-Men movies were directed by Simon Kinberg, not completely anyway. I dunno about you but I don’t like the idea of Lilandra being a throwaway villain like Vuk was.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 18, 2019 21:43:31 GMT
This is the X-men movies. They have always skimped on how the characters look unless they are blue. Lilandra only needs black hair. You don't have to put the Imperial Guard in their costumes. And they have enough leftover blue make-up for Gladiator from Beast and Mystique. You can even make them look like regular people. I think that trying to CG shape-shifters would be more costly that having a Superman-type character and a guy that's slightly taller than the others. None of the X-Men movies were directed by Simon Kinberg, not completely anyway. I dunno about you but I don’t like the idea of Lilandra being a throwaway villain like Vuk was. That's why you pair her closer to Xavier. Have it that she's been influencing him the entire time. That she came down after the events of Apocalypse. I can see her being closer to something like Talia in TDKR.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 21, 2019 21:09:31 GMT
None of the X-Men movies were directed by Simon Kinberg, not completely anyway. I dunno about you but I don’t like the idea of Lilandra being a throwaway villain like Vuk was. That's why you pair her closer to Xavier. Have it that she's been influencing him the entire time. That she came down after the events of Apocalypse. I can see her being closer to something like Talia in TDKR. Why do you want Lilandra to be a villain?
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 22, 2019 15:05:33 GMT
That's why you pair her closer to Xavier. Have it that she's been influencing him the entire time. That she came down after the events of Apocalypse. I can see her being closer to something like Talia in TDKR. Why do you want Lilandra to be a villain? Wasn't she in the Dark Phoenix saga? Didn't the X-men fight the Imperial Guard on the moon? Then Lilandra decides to destroy the solar system to destroy Dark Phoenix. Sounds like a villain to me. And I'm not talking straight out villain. More like a Magneto. The type where she is connected to the heroes, but is still an antagonist.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 29, 2019 1:03:16 GMT
Why do you want Lilandra to be a villain? Wasn't she in the Dark Phoenix saga? Didn't the X-men fight the Imperial Guard on the moon? Then Lilandra decides to destroy the solar system to destroy Dark Phoenix. Sounds like a villain to me. And I'm not talking straight out villain. More like a Magneto. The type where she is connected to the heroes, but is still an antagonist. Antagonist? Yes. Villain? No. Don’t recall her trying to destroy a solar system.
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 29, 2019 19:56:37 GMT
Wasn't she in the Dark Phoenix saga? Didn't the X-men fight the Imperial Guard on the moon? Then Lilandra decides to destroy the solar system to destroy Dark Phoenix. Sounds like a villain to me. And I'm not talking straight out villain. More like a Magneto. The type where she is connected to the heroes, but is still an antagonist. Antagonist? Yes. Villain? No. Don’t recall her trying to destroy a solar system. She triggered something that would, but Dark Phoenix killed herself.
Also, Magneto was the villain of every X-men movie*, with another being an antagonist.
*Don't know about Dark Phoenix. I'll catch it on Hulu or Disney+ or whatever it drops on.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 30, 2019 21:32:46 GMT
Antagonist? Yes. Villain? No. Don’t recall her trying to destroy a solar system. She triggered something that would, but Dark Phoenix killed herself.
Also, Magneto was the villain of every X-men movie*, with another being an antagonist.
*Don't know about Dark Phoenix. I'll catch it on Hulu or Disney+ or whatever it drops on.
I don’t remember this at all. What are you referring to?
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Post by ThatGuy on Jul 31, 2019 18:53:15 GMT
She triggered something that would, but Dark Phoenix killed herself.
Also, Magneto was the villain of every X-men movie*, with another being an antagonist.
*Don't know about Dark Phoenix. I'll catch it on Hulu or Disney+ or whatever it drops on.
I don’t remember this at all. What are you referring to?
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