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Post by MrFurious on Jul 8, 2019 21:25:57 GMT
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Post by staggerstag on Jul 8, 2019 22:32:43 GMT
Bragg is the only one who has so openly spoken out about Morrissey that I can tell. I subscribe to Red Hand Files and someone asked the question of Morrissey's right wing comments and statements. It's answered in a pretty meandering non-committal fashion. But then Nick Cave has always been very wordy, and I'm afraid I didn't glean anything concrete from his reply. www.theredhandfiles.com/views-on-morrissey/My own view is that he has become, over his declining years, very bitter about things in his life, perhaps it is (a)sexual frustration, nah I'm just kidding. I don't know, he's just a bloated old recording has-been these days, and his voice has gone, and, Frankly, he looks like how Mr Shankly might have looked and behaved, an embittered old creep. But his tours still pull them in. Some great Marr/Morrissey tunes, though. |
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Post by MrFurious on Jul 9, 2019 15:36:19 GMT
Nice one Stags.
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Post by Zos on Jul 9, 2019 15:46:58 GMT
He seemed to like playing with the is he/ isn't he a racist question for years but now he doesn't even try to hide it. Always thought the Smiths were the most overrated band I've ever heard. Like his views on animal rights though.
As for Bragg. He just gets better and better with the passing years.
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Post by petrolino on Jul 13, 2019 9:40:26 GMT
There was an interview he gave to 'Melody Maker' back in the late 1980s, I think in Cleveland, Ohio, in which he seemed extremely angry, hateful and determined to soil his pedestal. Didn't he grow resentful failing auditions in Manchester, coming to feel exluded from the punk scene before making it big in the Smiths? Somebody made a film about his time singing with Billy Duffy called 'England Is Mine' but I've not seen it (can't say I wish to either).
I always thought the attitude he projected in person seemed to reflect an irritating sneer in his voice. I like Johnny Marr, Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce's music in the Smiths as it's joyful, but kind of switch off to Morrissey's vocals as I've never liked the tone of his voice, though I do feel he can be an interesting lyricist. He's just always seemed annoying to me and I find his manner tiresome. They used to call Morrissey queen of the catfight because he loved a good slanging match in public.
"Accusations of racism have long dogged Morrissey, who once referred to Chinese people as a “sub-species” and said that British identity was under threat from immigration. “As far as racism goes, the modern loony left seem to forget that Hitler was leftwing,” he says now. “When someone calls you racist, what they are saying is: hmm, you actually have a point, and I don’t know how to answer it, so perhaps if I distract you by calling you a bigot we’ll both forget how enlightened your comment was.” He argues that the worst form of racism is against animals: “If you eat animals, isn’t it a display of hatred for a certain species? And what gives you the right to eat another species or race? Would you eat people from Sri Lanka?”
Elsewhere in the interview, he describes UK politics as “a moral disaster on every level. Even Tesco wouldn’t employ Diane Abbott [Labour’s shadow home secretary].” London mayor Sadiq Khan is also criticised: “London is debased. The mayor of London tells us about ‘neighbourhood policin’’ ... this is the mayor of London! And he cannot talk properly!” Morrissey instead throws his weight behind For Britain, the far-right party set up by former Ukip member Anne Marie Waters, someone he namechecked in a recent concert on the BBC. He said he was supporting the party because “they have the best approach to animal welfare”.
- Ben Beaumont-Thomas, The Guardian
“If Morrissey says not to eat meat, then I’ll eat meat. That’s how much I hate Morrissey.”
- Robert Smith
"Morrissey has been forced to change the cover of a forthcoming single after David Bowie reportedly blocked the use of a photo featuring both men.
This isn't a new record: on 8 April, Morrissey is reissuing his 1989 single The Last of the Famous International Playboys. And this isn't a new photograph: in 1992, Linder Sterling snapped the unseen shot of Bowie and the Smiths' former singer in New York. But it would constitute a new use of Sterling's photo: Morrissey planned to swap out the single's original artwork, an image of seven-year-old Moz climbing a tree.
"Bowie refusal," runs the headline for the following post on True to You, a fansite Morrissey uses as a mouthpiece: "David Bowie has ordered EMI UK not to run the proposed artwork for … The Last of the Famous International Playboys single and CD … Although Bowie has no legal rights to the photograph, most of his back catalogue is presently licensed to EMI."
It is not certain why Bowie may have leaned on EMI to block the photo's publication. The two men were friendly at the time the photo was taken, uniting on stage for a performance of Cosmic Dancer. But the intervening years have clearly brought a schism. "[Bowie's] a business, you know. He's not really a person," Morrissey told Jonathon Ross in 2004. "I could tell you stories … and you'd never listen to Let's Dance again."
Morrissey was even more cutting in a 2004 interview with GQ. "Bowie is not the person he was," he said. "Now he gives people what he thinks will make them happy and they're yawning their heads off. And by doing that, he is not relevant. He was only relevant by accident."
- Sean Michaels, The Guardian
“Morrissey writes wonderful song titles, but sadly he often forgets to write the song.”
- Elvis Costello
"I'd never really got them before [the Smiths], but when I saw them live I thought, "f*cking hell!" When they hit the stage it made me think of the Jam days; there was an explosion when they hit the boards...but I never listened to any of their records to tell you the truth. I liked a couple of singles, but I was never a fan. I'm certainly not a fan of Morrisey's solo stuff. It's a weird thing, because he's a bit of a fan of mine [Morrissey covered the Jam's "That's Entertainment" in 1991]. But it's not reciprocated. It bugs me, I don't want to diss him in print, but he's a quintessential Englishman but lives in LA."
- Paul Weller
Billy Bragg's popular on the U K comedy circuit and as a political speaker. Him and Paul Weller go way back.
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