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Post by masterofallgoons on Jul 16, 2019 18:21:38 GMT
A short film from last year's Oscar nominees called Detainment had an impact on me. I didn't know anything about it, but it's based on a true crime story, likely known to British people.
I had idea what any of the short films would be about, so this was just another drama as far as I could tell, but it got progressively more and more revealing and disturbing as it went on. It also involves children and also achieves a level of brutality and unease without visually depicting violence.
I'm not sure this one qualifies, because I don't know that I can say that I came away loving it, but I do think it's well made.
The other short from last year's Oscar noms that was deeply impactful was called Skin. That one's crazy and also involves children, brutality, violence, and on this case a majorly conflicted feeling at the end that's neither wholly satisfying not wholly tragic. It's intense and complex and really hard to forget.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jul 16, 2019 22:24:58 GMT
I'm also unsure if these count actually, as I don't think they'd be considered horror movies.
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Post by lostinlimbo on Jul 17, 2019 0:03:27 GMT
"An American Crime" and "The Girl next door". Both based on the Sylvia Likens case. "The Afflicted". Based on Theresa Knorr. The ending is made up. But much of the movie is true. "Snowtown"... Very well made and disturbing. Don't get how someone could find it boring. Grim yes. But boring? The performances are stellar. "Alice sweet Alice"... More than just a slasher. Heavy symbolism of religion and maternal relationships. I'm also a huge true crime fan... They usually get to me since they happened. But they are addictive. Totally agree on Snowtown. While not particularly explicit in a visual sense, something about its bleak atmosphere and festering temperament is very heavy and suffocating. Kinda saps the life out of you and unnerving to the core. It lingered on my mind for days.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jul 17, 2019 23:31:46 GMT
"An American Crime" and "The Girl next door". Both based on the Sylvia Likens case. "The Afflicted". Based on Theresa Knorr. The ending is made up. But much of the movie is true. "Snowtown"... Very well made and disturbing. Don't get how someone could find it boring. Grim yes. But boring? The performances are stellar. "Alice sweet Alice"... More than just a slasher. Heavy symbolism of religion and maternal relationships. I'm also a huge true crime fan... They usually get to me since they happened. But they are addictive. Totally agree on Snowtown. While not particularly explicit in a visual sense, something about its bleak atmosphere and festering temperament is very heavy and suffocating. Kinda saps the life out of you and unnerving to the core. It lingered on my mind for days. Another movie that could fit that description for me is Super Dark Times. It's also got this really bleak and melancholic tone hanging over it once the initial inciting incident goes down. It ultimately let me down, slightly, as the climax seemed to be somewhat out of a less thoughtful more exploitative movie, but until then the whole thing was really relatable and understandable, and therefore deeply unsettling. I've seen it compared to Mean Creek, but it's far superior.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Jul 19, 2019 4:05:23 GMT
Wolf Creek (2005). Saw it on TV years ago, not knowing it was even a horror movie going into it. Terrifying film. Easily the scariest flick of the Noughties.
Another one - though not quite horror - would be A Clockwork Orange (1971). The gleeful rape sequences left a bad taste in my mouth and I'd characterise it as a deeply unsettling film. And yet it's probably my favourite Kubrick work.
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Post by MrFurious on Jul 19, 2019 11:34:09 GMT
'Nothing Bad can Happen' (2013) is probably the movie that I really wanted to turn my head away from, but couldn't because it was also really good. See also: The War Zone (1999) Irreversible The House that Jack Built Angst Audition Antichrist I was gonna say Wolf Creek but theres a bunch of really horrifying ones right there. Added Nothing Bad can Happen and Angst to The House that Jack Built in me horror list for future viewing Also Martyrs(08) is another f&*ked up one that people on here probably like
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2019 16:05:34 GMT
'Nothing Bad can Happen' (2013) is probably the movie that I really wanted to turn my head away from, but couldn't because it was also really good. See also: The War Zone (1999) Irreversible The House that Jack Built Angst Audition Antichrist I was gonna say Wolf Creek but theres a bunch of really horrifying ones right there. Added Nothing Bad can Happen and Angst to The House that Jack Built in me horror list for future viewing Here's the house that Jack built...
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Post by masterofallgoons on Jul 19, 2019 17:10:04 GMT
I was gonna say Wolf Creek but theres a bunch of really horrifying ones right there. Added Nothing Bad can Happen and Angst to The House that Jack Built in me horror list for future viewing Also Martyrs(08) is another f&*ked up one that people on here probably like I'm not sure if you're familiar with Lars Von Trier, but The House That Jack Built is a VERY Von Trier movie. And as such, the things that are disturbing about it are really uneasy and difficult, but at some points go so far over the top and become so stupid at points that they veer into parody territory. He's an odd filmmaker, and one that I struggle with each time I see his work. He's clearly exceptionally skilled on a technical level, but he's a provocateur and an instigator more than he is an artist. The the killer discusses his work as art, and Von Trier very unsubtly makes it all about him (showing clips of his own work), and the way people view his work and therefore him, and the charges of him being a sadist and misogynist. So he shows that misogyny and brutality in the most direct and overt ways possible. That got tough to watch. Then the movie becomes some other totally absurdist work at the end, which to me sort of erases and sort of genuine disturbance that came before it. How much of this is the intended effect, I still don't know. It's, at the very least, unusual, though.
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Post by hitchcockthelegend on Oct 23, 2019 1:10:18 GMT
Snowtown - Yep, add me to the list here. Relentless in its bleakness, but definitely essential cinema.
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Post by poelzig on Oct 23, 2019 4:36:15 GMT
The House that Jack Built Is it that effective? I find Lars Von Trier, sometimes, too ridiculous to be taken as seriously disturbing. Like Antichrist, for instance, is beautifully directed and includes some very intense imagery, but it also has a fox that speaks the words 'Chaos reigns' into the camera and feature a closeup of Willem Dafoe's dick ejaculating blood. This basically reaches the levels of self parody, and prevents me from ever taking it seriously. From what I'd read The House that Jack Built is somewhat intentionally over the top silly and very self referential for Von Trier and the common criticisms against him. No it's not effective. It's silly and annoying and pretentious. Sadly like all LVT movies, it reeks of desperation to be oh so edgy while strangely trying and failing to show he doesn't care what anyone thinks. It's why he's such a pathetic hack. Well one of the many many many reasons he's such a pathetic hack.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Oct 23, 2019 11:19:59 GMT
Is it that effective? I find Lars Von Trier, sometimes, too ridiculous to be taken as seriously disturbing. Like Antichrist, for instance, is beautifully directed and includes some very intense imagery, but it also has a fox that speaks the words 'Chaos reigns' into the camera and feature a closeup of Willem Dafoe's dick ejaculating blood. This basically reaches the levels of self parody, and prevents me from ever taking it seriously. From what I'd read The House that Jack Built is somewhat intentionally over the top silly and very self referential for Von Trier and the common criticisms against him. No it's not effective. It's silly and annoying and pretentious. Sadly like all LVT movies, it reeks of desperation to be oh so edgy while strangely trying and failing to show he doesn't care what anyone thinks. It's why he's such a pathetic hack. Well one of the many many many reasons he's such a pathetic hack. I saw it a while back. I don't think I'd agree that he's a 'pathetic hack.' I think he is making exactly what he wants to and has a really assured style and mastery of technical and visual aspects of the form. I think he regularly gets really good performances out of his actors, he creates genuinely striking imagery, and he creates compelling situations. But, the question is what is all in service of. In the case of The House that Jack Built, it's an ultimately hollow self commentary. I'm not sure that he's saying he doesn't care what anyone thinks, as much as confronting what they think... Which maybe is the same thing..? Who the fuck knows? I found the film truly difficult to watch at times and with really effective moments that eventually became ridiculous and then became even sillier when it was clear he was making it all about himself and showing himself as the misogynistic monster that critics have accused him of being for years. I guess that could have been interesting, and in some ways it was, but it's the ultimate self indulgence and everything that unsettled me early left me smirking and then rolling my eyes later. The whole ending section was pretty crazy, and again, I think well made.. but just kinda stupid. I'd give him credit for making something unique and different, but he does that each time and really can't rest on only that. Eventually, I just didn't care what was happening anymore.. Until the ending, and at that point, there was no way I could think of it as any sort of serious artistic piece. It's very much in the Lars von Trier mold. I've appreciated some of his stuff more than others, but I don't really know what to make of this one, other than to disregard it and not really give much more thought it. I felt very similarly about Michael Haneke's Funny Games.
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Post by fatpaul on Oct 23, 2019 11:44:33 GMT
I saw it a while back. I don't think I'd agree that he's a 'pathetic hack.' I think he is making exactly what he wants to and has a really assured style and mastery of technical and visual aspects of the form. I think he regularly gets really good performances out of his actors, he creates genuinely striking imagery, and he creates compelling situations. But, the question is what is all in service of. In the case of The House that Jack Built, it's an ultimately hollow self commentary. I'm not sure that he's saying he doesn't care what anyone thinks, as much as confronting what they think... Which maybe is the same thing..? Who the fuck knows? I found the film truly difficult to watch at times and with really effective moments that eventually became ridiculous and then became even sillier when it was clear he was making it all about himself and showing himself as the misogynistic monster that critics have accused him of being for years. I guess that could have been interesting, and in some ways it was, but it's the ultimate self indulgence and everything that unsettled me early left me smirking and then rolling my eyes later. The whole ending section was pretty crazy, and again, I think well made.. but just kinda stupid. I'd give him credit for making something unique and different, but he does that each time and really can't rest on only that. Eventually, I just didn't care what was happening anymore.. Until the ending, and at that point, there was no way I could think of it as any sort of serious artistic piece. It's very much in the Lars von Trier mold. I've appreciated some of his stuff more than others, but I don't really know what to make of this one, other than to disregard it and not really give much more thought it. I felt very similarly about Michael Haneke's Funny Games. Is that the film where he's narrating his sins, if you like, to Virgil the poet, his guide on his katabasis? If it is the case that the film was metaphorically biographical then kinda pretentious to compare himself with Dante I think.
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Post by fatpaul on Oct 23, 2019 11:47:29 GMT
I'd say Eden Lake disturbed me. Not so much the violent content but the bleak ending whose non-empathy kinda rang true in chavtastic Britain.
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Post by gljbradley on Oct 29, 2019 3:06:59 GMT
American Psycho
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Post by Zos on Nov 7, 2019 13:12:23 GMT
Irreversible Fire Walk With Me A Siberian Film Martyrs
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Post by Lebowskidoo 🦞 on Nov 12, 2019 20:06:44 GMT
I usually really love the movies that disturb me. It's the ones that leave me feeling nothing that I hate.
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Post by darkreviewer2013 on Nov 14, 2019 4:07:15 GMT
Wolf Creek (2005) really disturbed me.
The Fly (1986) was borderline unwatchable due to the gross-out factor. And yet I'd still class it as Cronenberg's finest film and a masterpiece of horror cinema.
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Post by gljbradley on Nov 24, 2019 6:40:51 GMT
I have another one. The Cell.
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Post by masterofallgoons on Nov 24, 2019 13:14:12 GMT
I liked Doctor Sleep, but there is a sequence in this that I find very disturbing and I think pushes the boundaries a little. It was in context with the story and theme, but it didn't hold back on showing the torture of a child and his terrified reactions to the cruelty inflicted on him. That was pretty rough. The opening with the girl was too, but the extent of the cruelty with the Jacob Tremblay character was rather unpleasant to watch. And it achieved that by hardly showing us anything, but the suggestion of what was going on was enough to be very unsettling.
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Post by cryptoflovecraft on Jan 24, 2020 22:57:05 GMT
THE TENANT (paranoia, loss of sanity, identity and alienation). Just watched that one recently and would have to agree. Possibly Polanski's most disturbing film, along with Repulsion, that is.
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