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Post by thenolan on Jul 21, 2019 9:28:45 GMT
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 21, 2019 14:43:52 GMT
IMO, Dark Phoenix has higher highs but lower lows than CM.
In regards to action, emotional beats, and character arcs Dark Phoenix wins out. Emotional beats are helped by the three proceeding films developing the First Class cast and their relationships. Similarly, Jean’s arc was build-up by Apocalypse and how she reaches her arc is helped by DOFP.
Dark Phoenix suffers from a lack of levity and generic alien villains. Something that Captain Marvel avoided for the most part.
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 21, 2019 15:59:09 GMT
No, Captain Marvel was really awful and the plot was just lazy and contrived. Dark Phoenix is definitely much better than that crappy Captain Marvel.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 21, 2019 19:56:44 GMT
By far. It's the worst comic book film of 2019.
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Post by Agent of Chaos on Jul 21, 2019 20:32:21 GMT
By far. It's the worst comic book film of 2019. I haven’t seen it but I heard Hellboy was worse.
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Post by blockbusted on Jul 21, 2019 21:24:28 GMT
By far. It's the worst comic book film of 2019. I haven’t seen it but I heard Hellboy was worse. You're probably right, though I haven't really seen that one. |
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Post by DC-Fan on Jul 21, 2019 22:54:20 GMT
By far. It's the worst comic book film of 2019. I haven’t seen it but I heard Hellboy was worse. Hellboy is pretty bad. But Captain Marvel is worse than Hellboy and definitely worse than Dark Phoenix.
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Post by James on Dec 4, 2019 1:42:29 GMT
Yes, quite significantly, although I didn’t think DP was that awful.
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Post by sostie on Dec 4, 2019 2:00:00 GMT
By far. It's the worst comic book film of 2019. I haven’t seen it but I heard Hellboy was worse. Hellboy was far more enjoyable than DP
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Dec 4, 2019 2:00:48 GMT
I think you meant to say no.
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Post by hobowar on Dec 4, 2019 3:09:22 GMT
I'd personally put Captain Marvel comfortably above all the X-Men films that I've seen.
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Post by thenewnexus on Dec 4, 2019 5:03:10 GMT
Captain Marvel Sucked
1. Brie Larson is a bad actress and terrible casting
2. They pick the worst version of Carol Danvers to adapt(Feige lied kept Say her Capt Marvel is popular when those books restarted since 2012)
3. Nick Fury gets trolled by cute house pet
4. Capt Marvel is overpowered(In her ms marvel books it took her several issues to master her powers)
5. They changed Marvell into a woman and Monica Rambeau into a woman
6. The action is terrible(especially the battle were they play just a girl)
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Post by Wakanda on Dec 4, 2019 5:31:34 GMT
No, Captain Marvel was really awful and the plot was just lazy and contrived. Dark Phoenix is definitely much better than that crappy Captain Marvel. So you are also from bla bla land. Jeez, cant we build a wall to stop you guys from coming in? |
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Post by Wakanda on Dec 4, 2019 5:34:15 GMT
Captain Marvel Sucked 1. Brie Larson is a bad actress and terrible casting 2. They pick the worst version of Carol Danvers to adapt(Feige lied kept Say her Capt Marvel is popular when those books restarted since 2012) 3. Nick Fury gets trolled by cute house pet 4. Capt Marvel is overpowered(In her ms marvel books it took her several issues to master her powers) 5. They changed Marvell into a woman and Monica Rambeau into a woman 6. The action is terrible(especially the battle were they play just a girl) You meant to say you wished she sucked your little richard. Too bad for you the only woman that will ever touch you was your mother while she was giving birth to you. |
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Post by JudgeJuryDredd on Dec 4, 2019 6:16:21 GMT
Captain Marvel Sucked 1. Brie Larson is a bad actress and terrible casting 2. They pick the worst version of Carol Danvers to adapt(Feige lied kept Say her Capt Marvel is popular when those books restarted since 2012) 3. Nick Fury gets trolled by cute house pet 4. Capt Marvel is overpowered(In her ms marvel books it took her several issues to master her powers) 5. They changed Marvell into a woman and Monica Rambeau into a woman 6. The action is terrible(especially the battle were they play just a girl) OK, going in order here... 1. Brie Larson's not very believable as an action heroine and was not most people's top choice for Carl Danvers, but a bad actress she is not. Her work in such productions like Room, Short Term 12, Greenburg, The Glass Castle, Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World, Kong: Skull Island, Tanner Hall, The Spectacular Now, The United States of Tara, Hoot, Don Jon, Trainwreck, The Gambler, Free Fire, 21 Jump Street, Community, and Rampart pretty much dispel your claim that she is a bad actress, but as I've said before I assume the only other movies you've seen her in might be King Kong. 2. Yeah, they did, but last I checked you liked that iteration of the character, why so hypocritical? Also, please try to take the time and proof read this particular sentence, it reads silly. 3. Okay, this is getting ridiculous. You first claim that you like the latest iteration of Carol Danvers when Kelly Sue Deconnick revamped her for the marketplace a few years ago but now you declare it the worst version, so which is it? And in said revamp the alien species Flerken was introduced, and it was established that they may resemble cats but they are so not similar creatures, and the movie stays true to this in that the similarities begin and end with how the two species appear. Regarding Fury losing his eye I cannot disagree as that was pretty lame. 4. Because the story they were telling was of a superpowered soldier from another world who had some years of experience and understanding of their abilities but forgot they had a life on Earth and a good portion of how they go to and from the place they were programed to be service toward. It's not a bad story, the execution is for debate though, but regardless your criticism needs to be fleshed out more, as its pretty shy of detail to really support your point. 5. Yes, they did, but why was that detrimental to the story? I don't see you complaining about the changes to the source material to any of the movies or shows based on comic strips that you happen to like. By the way, wasn't Spawn originally killed by Chapel in the comics? And don't you like the 1997 live-action movie where Al Simmons is not a solider but a mercenary and was killed by Jason Wynn and a girl named Jessica Priest? What about making Terry into a white dude? How they just pushed in on the Hell aspect when in the first 100 issues its mostly referred to in narration and dialog with little glimpses here and there? Why does a movie like Spawn get a pass from you for being different to its source but Captain Marvel doesn't? Also, dude, Monica Rambeau was ALWAYS a woman, genius. Geez do you ever proof read your posts before you upload? 6. Yeah, the action wasn't anything to write home about, this I agree with you on believe it or not. Also, you did not answer the OP's question on if Dark Phoenix is worse than Captain Marvel, so is it or is it on par or better for you?
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Post by thenewnexus on Dec 4, 2019 8:04:22 GMT
Captain Marvel Sucked 1. Brie Larson is a bad actress and terrible casting 2. They pick the worst version of Carol Danvers to adapt(Feige lied kept Say her Capt Marvel is popular when those books restarted since 2012) 3. Nick Fury gets trolled by cute house pet 4. Capt Marvel is overpowered(In her ms marvel books it took her several issues to master her powers) 5. They changed Marvell into a woman and Monica Rambeau into a woman 6. The action is terrible(especially the battle were they play just a girl) OK, going in order here... 1. Brie Larson's not very believable as an action heroine and was not most people's top choice for Carl Danvers, but a bad actress she is not. Her work in such productions like Room, Short Term 12, Greenburg, The Glass Castle, Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World, Kong: Skull Island, Tanner Hall, The Spectacular Now, The United States of Tara, Hoot, Don Jon, Trainwreck, The Gambler, Free Fire, 21 Jump Street, Community, and Rampart pretty much dispel your claim that she is a bad actress, but as I've said before I assume the only other movies you've seen her in might be King Kong. 2. Yeah, they did, but last I checked you liked that iteration of the character, why so hypocritical? Also, please try to take the time and proof read this particular sentence, it reads silly. 3. Okay, this is getting ridiculous. You first claim that you like the latest iteration of Carol Danvers when Kelly Sue Deconnick revamped her for the marketplace a few years ago but now you declare it the worst version, so which is it? And in said revamp the alien species Flerken was introduced, and it was established that they may resemble cats but they are so not similar creatures, and the movie stays true to this in that the similarities begin and end with how the two species appear. Regarding Fury losing his eye I cannot disagree as that was pretty lame. 4. Because the story they were telling was of a superpowered soldier from another world who had some years of experience and understanding of their abilities but forgot they had a life on Earth and a good portion of how they go to and from the place they were programed to be service toward. It's not a bad story, the execution is for debate though, but regardless your criticism needs to be fleshed out more, as its pretty shy of detail to really support your point. 5. Yes, they did, but why was that detrimental to the story? I don't see you complaining about the changes to the source material to any of the movies or shows based on comic strips that you happen to like. By the way, wasn't Spawn originally killed by Chapel in the comics? And don't you like the 1997 live-action movie where Al Simmons is not a solider but a mercenary and was killed by Jason Wynn and a girl named Jessica Priest? What about making Terry into a white dude? How they just pushed in on the Hell aspect when in the first 100 issues its mostly referred to in narration and dialog with little glimpses here and there? Why does a movie like Spawn get a pass from you for being different to its source but Captain Marvel doesn't? Also, dude, Monica Rambeau was ALWAYS a woman, genius. Geez do you ever proof read your posts before you upload? 6. Yeah, the action wasn't anything to write home about, this I agree with you on believe it or not. Also, you did not answer the OP's question on if Dark Phoenix is worse than Captain Marvel, so is it or is it on par or better for you? Shes a block of wood period. I like the 70s and 2000s ms marvel books not her Captain Marvel Books. Nick Fury lost his eye in a grenade explosion in sgt fury and in peacemaker by Garth Ennis he got shot in the eye he didn't lose it to a house pet especially not in comedic fashion. You are telling me she has plot armor like i said in her ms marvel books it took her several issues to master her powers. I m mad at the reasoning for Making Marvell a woman,the movie says men are sexist(guy makes a cockpit joke) or idiots(Nick Fury being trolled by the cat) i meant to say Monica was turned into a child was stupid. Spawn had some problems but nowhere near as bad as Captain Marvel.
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Post by hobowar on Dec 4, 2019 8:31:07 GMT
OK, going in order here... 1. Brie Larson's not very believable as an action heroine and was not most people's top choice for Carl Danvers, but a bad actress she is not. Her work in such productions like Room, Short Term 12, Greenburg, The Glass Castle, Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World, Kong: Skull Island, Tanner Hall, The Spectacular Now, The United States of Tara, Hoot, Don Jon, Trainwreck, The Gambler, Free Fire, 21 Jump Street, Community, and Rampart pretty much dispel your claim that she is a bad actress, but as I've said before I assume the only other movies you've seen her in might be King Kong. 2. Yeah, they did, but last I checked you liked that iteration of the character, why so hypocritical? Also, please try to take the time and proof read this particular sentence, it reads silly. 3. Okay, this is getting ridiculous. You first claim that you like the latest iteration of Carol Danvers when Kelly Sue Deconnick revamped her for the marketplace a few years ago but now you declare it the worst version, so which is it? And in said revamp the alien species Flerken was introduced, and it was established that they may resemble cats but they are so not similar creatures, and the movie stays true to this in that the similarities begin and end with how the two species appear. Regarding Fury losing his eye I cannot disagree as that was pretty lame. 4. Because the story they were telling was of a superpowered soldier from another world who had some years of experience and understanding of their abilities but forgot they had a life on Earth and a good portion of how they go to and from the place they were programed to be service toward. It's not a bad story, the execution is for debate though, but regardless your criticism needs to be fleshed out more, as its pretty shy of detail to really support your point. 5. Yes, they did, but why was that detrimental to the story? I don't see you complaining about the changes to the source material to any of the movies or shows based on comic strips that you happen to like. By the way, wasn't Spawn originally killed by Chapel in the comics? And don't you like the 1997 live-action movie where Al Simmons is not a solider but a mercenary and was killed by Jason Wynn and a girl named Jessica Priest? What about making Terry into a white dude? How they just pushed in on the Hell aspect when in the first 100 issues its mostly referred to in narration and dialog with little glimpses here and there? Why does a movie like Spawn get a pass from you for being different to its source but Captain Marvel doesn't? Also, dude, Monica Rambeau was ALWAYS a woman, genius. Geez do you ever proof read your posts before you upload? 6. Yeah, the action wasn't anything to write home about, this I agree with you on believe it or not. Also, you did not answer the OP's question on if Dark Phoenix is worse than Captain Marvel, so is it or is it on par or better for you? Shes a block of wood period. I like the 70s and 2000s ms marvel books not her Captain Marvel Books. Nick Fury lost his eye in a grenade explosion in sgt fury and in peacemaker by Garth Ennis he got shot in the eye he didn't lose it to a house pet especially not in comedic fashion. You are telling me she has plot armor like i said in her ms marvel books it took her several issues to master her powers. I m mad at the reasoning for Making Marvell a woman, the movie says men are sexist(guy makes a cockpit joke) or idiots(Nick Fury being trolled by the cat) i meant to say Monica was turned into a child was stupid. Spawn had some problems but nowhere near as bad as Captain Marvel. 
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Post by darkpast on Dec 4, 2019 8:40:25 GMT
CM & DP are the two of the best cbms of the year besides joker, endgame was a letdown and far from home was a dumpster fire
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2019 8:46:20 GMT
OK, going in order here... 1. Brie Larson's not very believable as an action heroine and was not most people's top choice for Carl Danvers, but a bad actress she is not. Her work in such productions like Room, Short Term 12, Greenburg, The Glass Castle, Scott Pilgrim Vs. The World, Kong: Skull Island, Tanner Hall, The Spectacular Now, The United States of Tara, Hoot, Don Jon, Trainwreck, The Gambler, Free Fire, 21 Jump Street, Community, and Rampart pretty much dispel your claim that she is a bad actress, but as I've said before I assume the only other movies you've seen her in might be King Kong. 2. Yeah, they did, but last I checked you liked that iteration of the character, why so hypocritical? Also, please try to take the time and proof read this particular sentence, it reads silly. 3. Okay, this is getting ridiculous. You first claim that you like the latest iteration of Carol Danvers when Kelly Sue Deconnick revamped her for the marketplace a few years ago but now you declare it the worst version, so which is it? And in said revamp the alien species Flerken was introduced, and it was established that they may resemble cats but they are so not similar creatures, and the movie stays true to this in that the similarities begin and end with how the two species appear. Regarding Fury losing his eye I cannot disagree as that was pretty lame. 4. Because the story they were telling was of a superpowered soldier from another world who had some years of experience and understanding of their abilities but forgot they had a life on Earth and a good portion of how they go to and from the place they were programed to be service toward. It's not a bad story, the execution is for debate though, but regardless your criticism needs to be fleshed out more, as its pretty shy of detail to really support your point. 5. Yes, they did, but why was that detrimental to the story? I don't see you complaining about the changes to the source material to any of the movies or shows based on comic strips that you happen to like. By the way, wasn't Spawn originally killed by Chapel in the comics? And don't you like the 1997 live-action movie where Al Simmons is not a solider but a mercenary and was killed by Jason Wynn and a girl named Jessica Priest? What about making Terry into a white dude? How they just pushed in on the Hell aspect when in the first 100 issues its mostly referred to in narration and dialog with little glimpses here and there? Why does a movie like Spawn get a pass from you for being different to its source but Captain Marvel doesn't? Also, dude, Monica Rambeau was ALWAYS a woman, genius. Geez do you ever proof read your posts before you upload? 6. Yeah, the action wasn't anything to write home about, this I agree with you on believe it or not. Also, you did not answer the OP's question on if Dark Phoenix is worse than Captain Marvel, so is it or is it on par or better for you? Shes a block of wood period. I like the 70s and 2000s ms marvel books not her Captain Marvel Books. Nick Fury lost his eye in a grenade explosion in sgt fury and in peacemaker by Garth Ennis he got shot in the eye he didn't lose it to a house pet especially not in comedic fashion. You are telling me she has plot armor like i said in her ms marvel books it took her several issues to master her powers. I m mad at the reasoning for Making Marvell a woman,the movie says men are sexist(guy makes a cockpit joke) or idiots(Nick Fury being trolled by the cat) i meant to say Monica was turned into a child was stupid. Spawn had some problems but nowhere near as bad as Captain Marvel. Who's the better actor? Brie, a wooden plank or Woody?
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Post by Morgana on Dec 4, 2019 9:37:58 GMT
I would say they are equally okay, but not really good films. I've never liked Sophie Turner as an actress and when I heard she was playing Phoenix I lost hope the film would be good. I think Larsen is a good actress, but she wasn't in this. As someone else posted, she has the range of a plank of wood (again, in this film).
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