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Post by DSDSquared on Jul 24, 2019 13:35:38 GMT
I enjoyed it a lot, but let's get real, this is definitely a movie for little kids. I just watched it two nights ago with my kids. They liked it and I thought it was pretty entertaining. I like the Big reference. Keep in mind that this is not a bad thing. However, I have seen many people praise this and down movies like Homecoming and Far From Home because those movies are too 'kiddie'. Neither of those movies are more 'kiddie' than this.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 24, 2019 15:11:03 GMT
The movie is definitely darker than Homecoming.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 24, 2019 16:50:29 GMT
The movie is definitely darker than Homecoming.The film's relative bloodlessness undercuts the "darkness." Instant cauterization is a weird side effect of getting your head chewed off by a demon.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 24, 2019 16:54:44 GMT
The movie is definitely darker than Homecoming.The film's relative bloodlessness undercuts the "darkness." Instant cauterization is a weird side effect of getting your head chewed off by a demon. The film’s PG-13. What did you expect? Besides, I didn’t say the film is for adults. I was simply disputing the notion that the film is somehow more “kiddie” than the MCU Spider-Man movies, when it really isn’t. For the record, I’m not saying the MCU Spider-Man movies are “kiddie” either.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 24, 2019 17:01:45 GMT
The film's relative bloodlessness undercuts the "darkness." Instant cauterization is a weird side effect of getting your head chewed off by a demon. The film’s PG-13. What did you expect? Besides, I didn’t say the film is for adults. I was simply disputing the notion that the film is somehow more “kiddie” than the MCU Spider-Man movies, when it really isn’t. For the record, I’m not saying the MCU Spider-Man movies are “kiddie” either. I didn't expect anything from Shazam! I assert that the film's frequently touted "darkness" is severely undercut by the limitations of its rating almost to the point of negation. Feel free to contest my assertion without any undue concern for disproportionate reprisal. It's just an observation.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 24, 2019 17:06:22 GMT
The film’s PG-13. What did you expect? Besides, I didn’t say the film is for adults. I was simply disputing the notion that the film is somehow more “kiddie” than the MCU Spider-Man movies, when it really isn’t. For the record, I’m not saying the MCU Spider-Man movies are “kiddie” either. I didn't expect anything from Shazam! I assert that the film's frequently touted "darkness" is severely undercut by the limitations of its rating almost to the point of negation. Feel free to contest my assertion without any undue concern for disproportionate reprisal. It's just an observation. I didn’t realize the film was frequently touted for being dark. If anything, it was frequently touted as being a fun and lighthearted affair. I was simply arguing that it’s really no more “kiddie” than a good chunk of Marvel movies. The film is lighthearted overall, but it does have a few select moments to remind you that David F. Sandberg is a horror movie director.
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Post by hobowar on Jul 24, 2019 17:24:19 GMT
Easily the best DCEU movie and a better Superman movie than anything Zack Snyder did.
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Post by politicidal on Jul 24, 2019 17:56:13 GMT
The movie is definitely darker than Homecoming. “Out, am I?” |
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Post by James on Jul 24, 2019 19:41:30 GMT
It wasn’t too distractingly kiddie for me.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 24, 2019 19:57:33 GMT
I didn't expect anything from Shazam! I assert that the film's frequently touted "darkness" is severely undercut by the limitations of its rating almost to the point of negation. Feel free to contest my assertion without any undue concern for disproportionate reprisal. It's just an observation. I didn’t realize the film was frequently touted for being dark. If anything, it was frequently touted as being a fun and lighthearted affair. I was simply arguing that it’s really no more “kiddie” than a good chunk of Marvel movies. The film is lighthearted overall, but it does have a few select moments to remind you that David F. Sandberg is a horror movie director. I've heard a handful of YouTubers (including Grace Randolph) say this. I've also read several think pieces at popular outlets which site Shazam!'s darker tone as a key differentiator from many Marvel movies. It was on that basis that I decided to watch the film on home media. While I can't deny that the film's tone is, at times, darker than most, I interpreted its "darkness" as one might interpret a fairytale's darkness. Like one of those stories in which a kindly grandmother is swallowed whole by a wolf and, is subsequently regurgitated unharmed by the story's end.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Jul 24, 2019 20:04:45 GMT
I didn’t realize the film was frequently touted for being dark. If anything, it was frequently touted as being a fun and lighthearted affair. I was simply arguing that it’s really no more “kiddie” than a good chunk of Marvel movies. The film is lighthearted overall, but it does have a few select moments to remind you that David F. Sandberg is a horror movie director. I've heard a handful of YouTubers (including Grace Randolph) say this. I've also read several think pieces at popular outlets which site Shazam!'s darker tone as a key differentiator from many Marvel movies. It was on that basis that I decided to watch the film on home media. While I can't deny that the film's tone is, at times, darker than most, I interpreted its "darkness" as one might interpret a fairytale's darkness. Like one of those stories in which a kindly grandmother is swallowed whole by a wolf and, is subsequently regurgitated unharmed by the story's end. Your comparison would work better if the people in the boardroom scene ended up being okay by the end of the movie, but they weren’t.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 24, 2019 20:19:13 GMT
I've heard a handful of YouTubers (including Grace Randolph) say this. I've also read several think pieces at popular outlets which site Shazam!'s darker tone as a key differentiator from many Marvel movies. It was on that basis that I decided to watch the film on home media. While I can't deny that the film's tone is, at times, darker than most, I interpreted its "darkness" as one might interpret a fairytale's darkness. Like one of those stories in which a kindly grandmother is swallowed whole by a wolf and, is subsequently regurgitated unharmed by the story's end. Your comparison would work better if the people in the boardroom scene ended up being okay by the end of the movie, but they weren’t. That's fair and mostly true. That said, not seeing the result of the violence - as in no gnarly impact on the pavement below, and no blood did undercut the alleged darkness of the sequence (for me personally). Venom shares this problem, in my opinion as well. The point of my example is not so much that the grandmother is magically restored in the end so much as it is that she is eaten whole in the first place. This is something that sounds terrifying to a child, but to an adult, seems improbable and nonsensical. The same could be said for a creature who bites someone's head off and leaves no hallmarks of the activity as we traditionally understand it. It's not much different than Hawkeye hacking men to pieces and also producing no blood or other significant artifacts of the action in Endgame.
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Post by DSDSquared on Jul 26, 2019 15:53:14 GMT
Just for clarification, I did really enjoy the film for what it was. It is a movie I can watch with my kids where I won't want to pull my hair out.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Aug 12, 2019 20:10:27 GMT
Just watched it and I liked it a lot. Don’t really care if it’s a kids movie or not. 8/10
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Post by scabab on Aug 15, 2019 7:44:48 GMT
Went and bought this on Blu Ray today. Gonna watch it on Saturday.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Aug 15, 2019 20:09:33 GMT
Bought the DVD on Sunday.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 15, 2019 23:17:41 GMT
It feels more like a late '80s/early '90s family film. The ones that were certainly meant for kids but had a weird dark edge in the background. The Deadly Sins are legitimately creepy looking and some of their scenes where they murder civilians I'm surprised weren't cut.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Aug 15, 2019 23:37:42 GMT
It feels more like a late '80s/early '90s family film. The ones that were certainly meant for kids but had a weird dark edge in the background. The Deadly Sins are legitimately creepy looking and some of their scenes where they murder civilians I'm surprised weren't cut. That boardroom scene reminded me of the hospital scene in Spider-Man 2. You don’t see stuff like that in very many family movies today. It’s even funnier when you realize that WB didn’t allow Snyder to film certain scenes for Justice League because they were considered “too scary”.
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Post by scabab on Aug 17, 2019 18:50:14 GMT
Well I watched the movie and overall thought it was good, it was different for a DC movie and fun to watch but yeah it was a kids movie really.
The last half hour especially... probably let the movie down somewhat. I could have done without the group of little kids turning into superpowerd adults fighting monsters, it was all very Power Rangersy.
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Post by politicidal on Aug 18, 2019 17:41:46 GMT
Well I watched the movie and overall thought it was good, it was different for a DC movie and fun to watch but yeah it was a kids movie really. The last half hour especially... probably let the movie down somewhat. I could have done without the group of little kids turning into superpowerd adults fighting monsters, it was all very Power Rangersy. I didn't mind that so much but I think the movie would had benefited from shaving off some time in the second act where they're just goofing off.
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