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Post by darkpast on Aug 8, 2019 4:09:01 GMT
that's why The OA was canceled
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 8, 2019 7:01:42 GMT
Instead of getting new talent they just waste it on the corporate in-crowd--this is why tv is in such a sorry state. Too much nepotism without merit as a factor.
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Post by DSDSquared on Aug 8, 2019 15:01:20 GMT
Instead of getting new talent they just waste it on the corporate in-crowd--this is why tv is in such a sorry state. Too much nepotism without merit as a factor. Sorry state? TV is better now than it has ever been. There are seriously hundreds of quality shows out there right now.
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 8, 2019 15:52:45 GMT
Sorry state? TV is better now than it has ever been. There are seriously hundreds of quality shows out there right now. Hundreds of forgettable shows often with a strong SJW component. I'll stick with the 70s.
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Post by DSDSquared on Aug 8, 2019 17:35:37 GMT
Sorry state? TV is better now than it has ever been. There are seriously hundreds of quality shows out there right now. Hundreds of forgettable shows often with a strong SJW component. I'll stick with the 70s. The 70s? Come on now. I think people who say things like this are just saying it to be edgy or something. TV post 2000 blows away all prior TV. This is because television is taken more seriously now. Major actors come through TV now, which never used to be the case. Way more money is put into the productions now. Think about all of the greatest shows of all time like Game of Thrones, The Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad, etc. All of these shows have come out in what is called the modern era. No show from the 70s can touch a show like those.
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 8, 2019 19:03:00 GMT
The 70s? Come on now. I think people who say things like this are just saying it to be edgy or something. TV post 2000 blows away all prior TV. This is because television is taken more seriously now. Major actors come through TV now, which never used to be the case. Way more money is put into the productions now. Think about all of the greatest shows of all time like Game of Thrones, The Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad, etc. All of these shows have come out in what is called the modern era. No show from the 70s can touch a show like those. Big movie stars did tv shows. Clint Eastwood did tv, Charles Bronson, Alfred Hitchcock, Lee Marvin... The list is endless.
Besides, who is more charismatic-Tony Soprano or Jim Rockford? I think Rockford wins. Ditto for Columbo vs the lead in Breaking Bad. So modern tv does not offer the same perks.
Modern tv is generally soap opera serials with movie budgets and less censorship-but old tv could make do without nudity or swearing..
You can watch an episode of Wild Wild West or a Columbo or Banacek movie and not need to have watched 20 other episodes. The Sopranos did not work like that-you have to watch several episodes to understand what is going on. And some tv shows are incredibly cheap with location shooting.
Musical scoring was better in old tv as well.
The theme tunes for old tv tend to be more memorable.
Many of these big shows have a theme of angst and failure which is not what old tv did with episodes. They were adventures or mysteries etc.
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Post by Sarge on Aug 9, 2019 1:10:55 GMT
I like both. The 70s had some great tv, The Rockford Files is one of my all time favorites and holds up very well. Columbo was outstanding. But B5, The Sopranos, and The Wire, showed that television could be a better storyteller than film and create rich character arcs.
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Post by faustus5 on Aug 9, 2019 10:21:54 GMT
Sorry state? TV is better now than it has ever been. There are seriously hundreds of quality shows out there right now. Hundreds of forgettable shows often with a strong SJW component. I'll stick with the 70s. Only because 70's shows featured mainly uncomplicated white guys in simple stories that didn't ask you to use your brain or pay attention to substantial plot lines or substantial ideas. Perfect for racist simpletons--no wonder you don't recognize that modern television is a golden age of creativity.
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Post by DSDSquared on Aug 9, 2019 11:24:44 GMT
The 70s? Come on now. I think people who say things like this are just saying it to be edgy or something. TV post 2000 blows away all prior TV. This is because television is taken more seriously now. Major actors come through TV now, which never used to be the case. Way more money is put into the productions now. Think about all of the greatest shows of all time like Game of Thrones, The Sopranos, The Wire, Breaking Bad, etc. All of these shows have come out in what is called the modern era. No show from the 70s can touch a show like those. Big movie stars did tv shows. Clint Eastwood did tv, Charles Bronson, Alfred Hitchcock, Lee Marvin... The list is endless.
Besides, who is more charismatic-Tony Soprano or Jim Rockford? I think Rockford wins. Ditto for Columbo vs the lead in Breaking Bad. So modern tv does not offer the same perks.
Modern tv is generally soap opera serials with movie budgets and less censorship-but old tv could make do without nudity or swearing..
You can watch an episode of Wild Wild West or a Columbo or Banacek movie and not need to have watched 20 other episodes. The Sopranos did not work like that-you have to watch several episodes to understand what is going on. And some tv shows are incredibly cheap with location shooting.
Musical scoring was better in old tv as well.
The theme tunes for old tv tend to be more memorable.
Many of these big shows have a theme of angst and failure which is not what old tv did with episodes. They were adventures or mysteries etc.
TV stars were not movie stars. It was a common theme pre 2000s. Lesser actors did TV. Also, yes, James Gandolfini (Tony Soprano) is maybe the greatest TV character of all time. Columbo over Walter White? Cranston acts circles around him any day of the week, despite that his character was despicable. Soap serials? I think you are just one of those guys that lives in the past and cannot see what is in front of you. It is actually the exact opposite. Most older TV did not make you think at all. It was mindless entertainment. TV now is far more complex. Also, in the 70s, 80s, and 90s there might be 3-5 quality shows that comes out in a year. Now more than that come out in a month. Saying TV shows are incredibly cheap now is hilarious considering the production values today are far superior and that part is not even an opinion.
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 9, 2019 15:06:21 GMT
Only because 70's shows featured mainly uncomplicated white guys in simple stories that didn't ask you to use your brain or pay attention to substantial plot lines or substantial ideas. Perfect for racist simpletons--no wonder you don't recognize that modern television is a golden age of creativity. Modern television is full of adult man-children with parental angst. It's hardly grown-up tv. They use nudity and violence to masquerade the juvenile DNC-approved agenda. One episode of the Sopranos has a gay mobster falling in love with a short-order cook at a diner-- it's not subtle.
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 9, 2019 15:13:11 GMT
TV stars were not movie stars. It was a common theme pre 2000s. Lesser actors did TV. Also, yes, James Gandolfini (Tony Soprano) is maybe the greatest TV character of all time. Columbo over Walter White? Cranston acts circles around him any day of the week, despite that his character was despicable. Soap serials? I think you are just one of those guys that lives in the past and cannot see what is in front of you. It is actually the exact opposite. Most older TV did not make you think at all. It was mindless entertainment. TV now is far more complex. Also, in the 70s, 80s, and 90s there might be 3-5 quality shows that comes out in a year. Now more than that come out in a month. Saying TV shows are incredibly cheap now is hilarious considering the production values today are far superior and that part is not even an opinion.
More people will be watching Columbo reruns in 20 years than the Sopranos, just as people still read Agatha Christie. There is nothing intellectual in the Sopranos. He's a psychopathic criminal who feels doubts so he goes to a psychiatrist.
The series was hamstrung by its SJW agenda. So are all the other "golden age" of tv shows.
Lee Marvin or Richard Widmark or Telly Savalas or Peter Falk or James Garner were bigger stars than James Gandolfini. He never could translate his tv show success into movie stardom could he?
Watch a few episodes of Nip/Tuck and see how much location shooting they do for a series set in Los Angeles and compare it to any tv show of the 70s.
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Post by faustus5 on Aug 9, 2019 15:47:52 GMT
Modern television is full of adult man-children with parental angst. Which is a more accurate depiction of reality than your idiotic 70's TV fantasies. A. You are being hilariously prudish. B. There is no DNC approved agenda, just people depicting areas of reality that could never be realistically addressed by broadcast TV in the 70's, where everything had to be dumbed down to the level of children or as in your case, adults with the intellects of children. News flash: people have sex, and violence has been a staple of every culture's stories since the beginning of time. There was violence in the worthless garbage you watched in the 70's--just dumbed down and unrealistic.
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Post by faustus5 on Aug 9, 2019 15:52:22 GMT
More people will be watching Columbo reruns in 20 years than the Sopranos, just as people still read Agatha Christie. The levels of pure idiotic delusion in this statement are a perfect indication of your complete lack of taste and class. There is a critical consensus that The Soprano's is one of the greatest television series of all time. No one with an IQ over 70 has or ever will say the same of fucking Columbo. Actually there was, but you aren't terribly bright, so we shouldn't expect you to even notice it, let alone figure it out. Definitely stick with Columbo. It won't force you to think or even pay much attention.
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Post by DSDSquared on Aug 9, 2019 15:55:26 GMT
TV stars were not movie stars. It was a common theme pre 2000s. Lesser actors did TV. Also, yes, James Gandolfini (Tony Soprano) is maybe the greatest TV character of all time. Columbo over Walter White? Cranston acts circles around him any day of the week, despite that his character was despicable. Soap serials? I think you are just one of those guys that lives in the past and cannot see what is in front of you. It is actually the exact opposite. Most older TV did not make you think at all. It was mindless entertainment. TV now is far more complex. Also, in the 70s, 80s, and 90s there might be 3-5 quality shows that comes out in a year. Now more than that come out in a month. Saying TV shows are incredibly cheap now is hilarious considering the production values today are far superior and that part is not even an opinion.
More people will be watching Columbo reruns in 20 years than the Sopranos, just as people still read Agatha Christie. There is nothing intellectual in the Sopranos. He's a psychopathic criminal who feels doubts so he goes to a psychiatrist.
The series was hamstrung by its SJW agenda. So are all the other "golden age" of tv shows.
Lee Marvin or Richard Widmark or Telly Savalas or Peter Falk or James Garner were bigger stars than James Gandolfini. He never could translate his tv show success into movie stardom could he?
Watch a few episodes of Nip/Tuck and see how much location shooting they do for a series set in Los Angeles and compare it to any tv show of the 70s.
ANY website, book, or documentary related TV regularly lists The Sopranos as a top five TV show of all time. I can never find Columbo in the top 50 so nice try. Also, I love how reduce every great show to a one sentence plot and you think that proves your point. I can literally do that with any show ever made. To think shows like Columbo explore more mature themes than a show like The Sopranos or Breaking Bad is not only laughable, but downright idiotic. Both of those shows have better acting, writing, cinematography, and more complex themes than any show that EVER aired in the entire 1970s decade. They are maybe the two greatest shows ever made, or at least in the conversation.
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 9, 2019 16:10:23 GMT
A. You are being hilariously prudish. Depictions of violence and nudity does not automatically equal quality. It still doesn't negate the fact that Soprano and company are characters with constant angst and parental hang ups. In real life people do not spend 24 hours a day thinking about their parents. I don't know how many times Lt Columbo mentioned his dad. Maybe he never did.
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 9, 2019 16:13:38 GMT
Actually there was, but you aren't terribly bright, so we shouldn't expect you to even notice it, let alone figure it out. Definitely stick with Columbo. It won't force you to think or even pay much attention. Only SJW liberal hacks say the Sopranos was intellectual. It was a mafia soap opera-with SJW agenda. That's all. They even had to avoid plot lines so as to keep the SJW agenda-that's why they couldnt show Soprano finding out about the rapist because he would have gone after him.
I bet your favorite episode was the Johnny Cakes one.
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 9, 2019 16:16:53 GMT
ANY website, book, or documentary related TV regularly lists The Sopranos as a top five TV show of all time. I can never find Columbo in the top 50 so nice try. Also, I love how reduce every great show to a one sentence plot and you think that proves your point. I can literally do that with any show ever made. To think shows like Columbo explore more mature themes than a show like The Sopranos or Breaking Bad is not only laughable, but downright idiotic. Both of those shows have better acting, writing, cinematography, and more complex themes than any show that EVER aired in the entire 1970s decade. They are maybe the two greatest shows ever made, or at least in the conversation. It's all the Liberal media that says Sopranos is great-not the public. I never said Columbo explored intellectual themes-but it didn't pretend to be something it wasn't like the Sopranos does. All the Sopranos really has going for it is movie-quality cinematography(albeit with that ubiquitous orange tint).
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Aug 9, 2019 18:06:34 GMT
Imagine being that ridiculously annoying.
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Post by Nicko's Nose on Aug 9, 2019 18:12:05 GMT
ANY website, book, or documentary related TV regularly lists The Sopranos as a top five TV show of all time. I can never find Columbo in the top 50 so nice try. Also, I love how reduce every great show to a one sentence plot and you think that proves your point. I can literally do that with any show ever made. To think shows like Columbo explore more mature themes than a show like The Sopranos or Breaking Bad is not only laughable, but downright idiotic. Both of those shows have better acting, writing, cinematography, and more complex themes than any show that EVER aired in the entire 1970s decade. They are maybe the two greatest shows ever made, or at least in the conversation. It's all the Liberal media that says Sopranos is great-not the public. Lmao. Everyone I know in real life or online who has seen The Sopranos thinks it’s one of the greatest things they’ve ever seen.
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Post by Prime etc. on Aug 9, 2019 18:27:21 GMT
Lmao. Everyone I know in real life or online who has seen The Sopranos thinks it’s one of the greatest things they’ve ever seen. Yeah, I am sure they do. Johnny Cakes is your favorite episode too right?
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