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Post by goz on Aug 18, 2019 21:08:11 GMT
Very cute for a 'Christian' dissembler. Are you going to answer the question, or do you need me to needlessly rephrase it? He’s fundamentally on the right track. Gee! The right track to where, about what? Does this mean I cannot be an agnostic atheist anymore if I google what he 'referenced'?
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Post by gadreel on Aug 18, 2019 21:08:48 GMT
I dont need you to do anything, but you could try google. What good what that do me? I wouldn't know why you stated what you did, unless your 'position' is a universally held one on the subject. You did not enter it into a google search did you ?
You just came back posting acting as if you know what is even being spoken about when it is clear that you dont have the foggiest idea. I wish I was surprised.
Look I get it is an obscure reference, but try googling it, I did and the correct information was in the first hit.
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Post by goz on Aug 18, 2019 21:15:09 GMT
What good what that do me? I wouldn't know why you stated what you did, unless your 'position' is a universally held one on the subject. You did not enter it into a google search did you ?
You just came back posting acting as if you know what is even being spoken about when it is clear that you dont have the foggiest idea. I wish I was surprised.
Look I get it is an obscure reference, but try googling it, I did and the correct information was in the first hit.
Yes, I did and I got this en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Conan_the_Barbarian_(1982_filmand I cut and pasted your quote.
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Post by gadreel on Aug 18, 2019 21:16:14 GMT
I am a kabbalist.
But that is not what I meant, try googling what I wrote.
Like “I am that Am” voice in the Burning Bush? Otherwise, just tell me what you think “it” is, dude. what I think is not relevant, that was not the point of the quote, although to be fair I messed it up a little was remembering from my head. But just to be clear I do identify God as Ain Soph
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Post by gadreel on Aug 18, 2019 21:17:00 GMT
You did not enter it into a google search did you ?
You just came back posting acting as if you know what is even being spoken about when it is clear that you dont have the foggiest idea. I wish I was surprised.
Look I get it is an obscure reference, but try googling it, I did and the correct information was in the first hit.
Yes, I did and I got this en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Conan_the_Barbarian_(1982_filmand I cut and pasted your quote. Wicked, so now you know what I am talking about, glad I could help.
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Post by goz on Aug 18, 2019 21:18:31 GMT
Gee! The right track to where, about what? Does this mean I cannot be an agnostic atheist anymore if I google what he 'referenced'? I’m an atheist, that is I do not believe in God. Now, is there an underlying or overarching “consciousness” that holds the universe together? I don’t know. It’s possible. I don;t know either. That s why I am an agnostic atheist and like to discuss 'possibilities' if I knew what they were referencing! Which is why I asked.
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Post by goz on Aug 18, 2019 21:20:00 GMT
Wicked, so now you know what I am talking about, glad I could help. No, I don't.
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Post by gadreel on Aug 18, 2019 21:22:04 GMT
Wicked, so now you know what I am talking about, glad I could help. No, I don't. it was a joke.
Clusium posted something about look here is your god, it looked like it was fast becoming a pissing contest, I quoted Subotai from Conan during their fireside religious conversation.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
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Post by gadreel on Aug 18, 2019 21:23:29 GMT
Wicked, so now you know what I am talking about, glad I could help. Humans do create much of the “reality” we see around us. Self-fulfilling prophecy being one example. is there a reality without a human to interpret it? If there is, is reality to a human actually a far more subjective reality than we give it credence for as each person must be experiencing a unique reality?
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Post by goz on Aug 18, 2019 21:26:58 GMT
it was a joke.
Clusium posted something about look here is your god, it looked like it was fast becoming a pissing contest, I quoted Subotai from Conan during their fireside religious conversation.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
Oh! A joke! I like jokes.
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Post by goz on Aug 18, 2019 21:29:43 GMT
Humans do create much of the “reality” we see around us. Self-fulfilling prophecy being one example. is there a reality without a human to interpret it? If there is, is reality to a human actually a far more subjective reality than we give it credence for as each person must be experiencing a unique reality? There must be, because the 'reality' goes on before and after any individual human interpretation. Each human's reality may be an interpretation butt the reality is eternal and everchanging. This is a joke too. My joke reality is obviously different to yours.
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Post by gadreel on Aug 18, 2019 21:31:48 GMT
is there a reality without a human to interpret it? If there is, is reality to a human actually a far more subjective reality than we give it credence for as each person must be experiencing a unique reality? Who said only humans can interpret reality? No one, but arguing from the point of view of a human. I mean sure anything that interprets, is interpreting reality, but your phrasing seemed to lend itself to looking at the human view point.
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Post by gadreel on Aug 18, 2019 21:47:00 GMT
No one, but arguing from the point of view of a human. I mean sure anything that interprets, is interpreting reality, but your phrasing seemed to lend itself to looking at the human view point. The human POV is all I have. I’m not a mystic or aesthete. I can only approach “it” via acquired secular knowledge (which is nothing to dismiss.) Have you read much from the Funtalmental Fysics Group? And it’s interesting we’re having this conversation on the 50th anniversary of Woodstock. No I have not. It's the day after here, but woah, woodstock
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Post by Vegas on Aug 18, 2019 21:57:22 GMT
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Post by gadreel on Aug 18, 2019 22:34:49 GMT
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Post by gadreel on Aug 18, 2019 22:35:51 GMT
No I have not. It's the day after here, but woah, woodstock You might like the Tao of Physics or The Dancing Wu Li Masters. Alright I might give them a shot. I just picked up Nuclear Evolution to read this morning, so might be bogged down for a bit
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Post by gadreel on Aug 18, 2019 22:58:20 GMT
Alright I might give them a shot. I just picked up Nuclear Evolution to read this morning, so might be bogged down for a bit I remember reading that one too. Another interesting source of thought for you is Rick Roderick. He’s since passed away, but did do three Teaching Company lectures now available free online. His philosophy does not address the otherwise existence of Being, but explores the human search for Self. rickroderick.orgAll the lectures have transcripts, but it’s fun to hear him talk in his West Texas voice. ok Might put them on in the background while I work, thank you for that
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