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Post by Moviefan on Apr 13, 2017 15:44:24 GMT
Parents will often post photos and videos of their kids online, some of which show the child nude or partially nude. Do you think that is morally wrong? Do you consider it harmful to the child? Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong with pictures and videos of naked children, provided they are not sexual and that the child doesn't object to them being posted. If the child objects, then the parent shouldn't post them or should remove them. The pictures or videos should only be posted by the parents, child, or with the permission of the parents and the child. What are your thoughts on videos or pictures posted online that show naked kids?
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Post by koskiewicz on Apr 13, 2017 15:46:32 GMT
...does a bear sh!t in the woods???
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 13, 2017 15:47:18 GMT
It doesn't matter if it is not harmful to the child.
I personally have no issues with parents taking pictures of their naked kid when its kept private, but they have little control over who views it in the more public setting of social networks or Youtube.
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Post by Marv on Apr 13, 2017 15:48:14 GMT
Morally no. Personally I don't like them. I find them aesthetically unpleasing photos. But morally I don't have issue. Unless they are shown sexualized in some way, like you said.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 13, 2017 15:49:46 GMT
The problem is we don't know what makes pervs horny.
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Post by puvo on Apr 13, 2017 15:51:12 GMT
Parents will often post photos and videos of their kids online, some of which show the child nude or partially nude. Do you think that is morally wrong? Do you consider it harmful to the child? Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong with pictures and videos of naked children, provided they are not sexual and that the child doesn't object to them being posted. If the child objects, then the parent shouldn't post them or should remove them. The pictures or videos should only be posted by the parents, child, or with the permission of the parents and the child. What are your thoughts on videos or pictures posted online that show naked kids? I think its wrong. Posting nude photos publicly would be something id consider worthy of informed consent, and they aren't capable.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Apr 13, 2017 16:02:42 GMT
The problem is we don't know what makes pervs horny. The problem is, we DO KNOW what makes pervs horny, and an innocently posted photo of a child is right up there at the top of the list. And posting it on social media is interpreted by some as almost permission to do what they do, and the unsuspecting parents are painting a target on their kid's back.
There has been a sharp rise in crimes against children as social media has become so widely used, and a causal relationship has been identified by law enforcement and children's service organizations.
So, yeah, it's not something to do if you care about your kids.
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Post by OldSamVimes on Apr 13, 2017 16:04:32 GMT
When you meet up with your friends IRL show them your photos.
If you never meet someone IRL and they're just a facebook friend they probably don't give a shit about your photos.
There is no need to post naked pictures of your kids on the internet.
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Post by cupcakes on Apr 13, 2017 17:42:30 GMT
tpfkar The problem is that too many people don't have a good grasp of tactful/tasteful. So as a rule, it should not be done. crapped the scare out of him
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Apr 13, 2017 19:19:41 GMT
Another thought - it is a massive invasion of the child's privacy. Would you like having your own baby pictures online?
Be good to your children; they will be the ones who choose your nursing home. And possibly post photos of you in the nursing home. On a bad day. Paybacks is a bitch.
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Post by clusium on Apr 13, 2017 19:27:00 GMT
Parents will often post photos and videos of their kids online, some of which show the child nude or partially nude. Do you think that is morally wrong? Do you consider it harmful to the child? Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong with pictures and videos of naked children, provided they are not sexual and that the child doesn't object to them being posted. If the child objects, then the parent shouldn't post them or should remove them. The pictures or videos should only be posted by the parents, child, or with the permission of the parents and the child. What are your thoughts on videos or pictures posted online that show naked kids? It depends upon the type of photos. No, photos of children nude or even scantily clad should not be shown, even if the photos are innocent, because online perverts can & will get their hands upon them, & do harm with them.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 13, 2017 19:28:44 GMT
I'm not concerned about the privacy issue for babies/toddlers.
Their rights and privacy are entirely based on the right & authority of the parents...No different than pets except that they have the ability to become embarrassed by pictures later (As an aside, a parent should abide by the wishes of their children when kids can make their opinions known regarding those pictures, but it is irrelevant at the time they are taken.).
R can't speak for other kids, but my kids loved being in pictures anyway.
I'm actually not even concerned about the dangers to that particular child as long as the parent weren't intentionally making kiddie porn. After all, someone who is lusting after a kid may never actually see that kid.
What concerns me is that it could still incite them to take out their pervy ways on other, more available kids.
We can't control the perv who gets off just by seeing a kid, but we can lessen the impact if we avoid as many things as possible that could spark them.
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Post by MCDemuth on Apr 13, 2017 19:42:02 GMT
I don't think there is anything wrong with pictures and videos of naked children, provided they are not sexual and that the child doesn't object to them being posted. If the child objects, then the parent shouldn't post them or should remove them. Umm... I think you are missing the point of what age these children are... Most TEENS don't go walking around naked in front of their parents for any reason so... That must mean these children are still very young. I highly doubt they would understand the problems they may have to face by strangers seeing naked pictureds of them online. Just because THEY don't object, doesn't mean that it should be allowed for any reason. Parents should be protecting their children... And for what purpose would any parent need to post naked pictures of their children online in the first place? And what kind of people are the ones who really want to see them? But we all know, in today's world, even if there is nothing going on, someone is going to interpret the whole situation as something bad, and child protective services and the police are going to get complaints... And the family's lives will ruined... Even if they are found "innocent" people will still believe they are not. So No, I don't think pictures should ever be made public for any reason.
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Post by thefleetsin on Apr 13, 2017 19:46:26 GMT
Parents will often post photos and videos of their kids online, some of which show the child nude or partially nude. Do you think that is morally wrong? Do you consider it harmful to the child? Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong with pictures and videos of naked children, provided they are not sexual and that the child doesn't object to them being posted. If the child objects, then the parent shouldn't post them or should remove them. The pictures or videos should only be posted by the parents, child, or with the permission of the parents and the child. What are your thoughts on videos or pictures posted online that show naked kids? not when there's hundreds of thousands of totally adorable outfits out there!
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Apr 13, 2017 20:08:51 GMT
I'm not concerned about the privacy issue for babies/toddlers. Their rights and privacy are entirely based on the right & authority of the parents...No different than pets except that they have the ability to become embarrassed by pictures later. So I guess you are the personification of this quote from George Bernard Shaw:
So the fact that your child may be embarrassed by the pictures later doesn't bother you?
I have one parent who felt the same; not about photos, but about personal private things we talked about and I expected confidentiality. She told all her friends about what we were talking about. When I was going through chemotherapy at age 35, she told her friends - well, anyone that would listen - all the side effects that I was suffering from, and they actually had the gall to send me get well cards that detailed those very private things. Not just a generic get well card, details of private things. My mother had always done this kind of thing, but this broke the camel's back. It damaged our relationship beyond repair. I still have contact with my mother, I'm her only living relative, but our conversations are superficial, usually about what she needs for me to do for her - her bills, her laundry, etc. If I don't want her friends to hear something I've said, I don't discuss it with her.
My late husband, who was around when I was being treated, likened it to having the National Enquirer for a mother.
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Post by phludowin on Apr 13, 2017 20:16:43 GMT
Parents will often post photos and videos of their kids online, some of which show the child nude or partially nude. Do you think that is morally wrong? Do you consider it harmful to the child? Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong with pictures and videos of naked children, provided they are not sexual and that the child doesn't object to them being posted. If the child objects, then the parent shouldn't post them or should remove them. The pictures or videos should only be posted by the parents, child, or with the permission of the parents and the child. What are your thoughts on videos or pictures posted online that show naked kids? My opinion: The parents should ask themselves one question: Would you like it if someone posted photos of your naked child self? If the parents don't want to be on the internet naked as babies, they shouldn't do this to their children.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 13, 2017 21:00:36 GMT
rachelcarson1953I guess if I thought babies and adults were the same. I don't though, so I think privacy is very important. It's just that a child's privacy is more dependent on the parents than the country. Not sure if you read my post, but I would say it's pretty clear that when a child is aware of possible embarrassment, the parent should respect that. However, that does not mean they parent should live their life as if to assume their kids will be embarrassed by photos of themselves. The photos being taken are for the parents' enjoyment in the first place. It's like saying the parent should never take pictures of their kids in the first place otherwise, which is silly.
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Post by rachelcarson1953 on Apr 13, 2017 21:25:12 GMT
rachelcarson1953 I guess if I thought babies and adults were the same. I don't though, so I think privacy is very important. It's just that a child's privacy is more dependent on the parents than the country. Not sure if you read my post, but I would say it's pretty clear that when a child is aware of possible embarrassment, the parent should respect that. However, that does not mean they parent should live their life as if to assume their kids will be embarrassed by photos of themselves. The photos being taken are for the parents' enjoyment in the first place. It's like saying the parent should never take pictures of their kids in the first place otherwise, which is silly. Yes, I read your post. But you missed my point in the story about my mother (the quote was just an aside that comments on our attitude towards social media). Her telling her friends about my side effects betrayed my trust and damaged our relationship. She didn't care if it embarrassed me, it was a way for her to get attention. I was an adult at the time; if there had been an internet when I was a child, there would have been countless photos of me in embarrassing situations.
There was an actual photographic print of me as a baby, sitting on a scale; no big deal until my mother would point out that I was such a fat baby that she was hiding behind me when the photo was taken. I finally confiscated the photo; had I not, she would still be showing it to anyone willing to look.
Maybe I am overly sensitive on this issue because my mother really did it to embarrass me, and went on to damage my self image in countless ways. It had a profoundly negative effect on my life for many years.
I'm just saying, take great pictures of your kids to share with others, not something that might damage them later.
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Post by CoolJGS☺ on Apr 13, 2017 21:36:50 GMT
rachelcarson1953I may have misunderstood your anecdote, but I was under the impression she was telling things about you as more of a grownup. I am only talking about kids who don't have the capacity to have consent. By the time a child is teenager or an adolescent, then they should certainly have a say in what they want divulged as public knowledge including photos. However, I will say that the pictures of you as a baby were fair game to show to people while you were a baby. When you're an adult, you should have a say in who gets to see those. It can be a slippery slope though. After all, the parents may think those photos are theirs to do with as they wish. I'm just saying that as a parent, I wouldn't automatically reveal things that would be embarrassing for my kid and a smart parent will know exactly which photos may cause this unless they child is perhaps more socially awkward than the norm.
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Post by Eva Yojimbo on Apr 13, 2017 21:38:21 GMT
Personally, I don't think there is anything wrong with pictures and videos of naked children, provided they are not sexual and that the child doesn't object to them being posted. If the child objects, then the parent shouldn't post them or should remove them. The pictures or videos should only be posted by the parents, child, or with the permission of the parents and the child. What are your thoughts on videos or pictures posted online that show naked kids? Basically the same as yours. Here's an interesting and related question: how do you feel about publishing nude pictures of children that are meant to be artistic in nature? I think of the work of photographers like Sally Mann and Jock Sturges, both of whom (unfairly, I think) got called child pornographers.
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